|
The Saudi Royal Family has pretty savvy image management these days. Can’t imagine them tarnishing their reputation through overt association with the Cubs.
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 11:15
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 21:07 |
|
|
Uncle Steve Will not be outbid! Gets outbid.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 12:03
|
|
|
Very funny how all the reporting about him was "this guy wants the big stage, wants to be a star" etc. and he ends up on a team that will never be the big story in town over whatever is happening with the Lakers even if they suck, and will also end up being second fiddle to Ohtani. Cashman also is out there frantically waiving the "we tried" flag like the loser he is.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 12:24
|
|
|
Lol the Jays getting mentioned as also rans will always be hilarious
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 13:04
|
|
|
This is probably a hot take but why bother trading for Soto if your gonna balk at signing Yamamoto over 25 million. Soto by himself isn't enough and now what are you left with
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 13:05
|
|
|
Is it a luxury tax thing? That does seem like a dumb amount to quibble over
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 13:09
|
|
|
Sports radio mentioned that apparently the Mets offered the 325 and then the dodgers matched so welp
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 13:18
|
|
|
SilvergunSuperman posted:Is it a luxury tax thing? That does seem like a dumb amount to quibble over Probably, and a cheap thing. Once you are at 10/300 how can you go 12/325 is too much when it's less money per year
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 13:19
|
|
|
I’m bummed but it’s understandable. Being able to get a mega deal from the best team (and perennial winners of the Bawfuls Memorial Best Regular Season Award) over the past few years, be on a coast closer to home, and plug into the Japanese speaking network that surrounds Ohtani and will only grow with Yamamoto there makes sense makes a lot of sense. Why go to either New York team when both are completely hosed up and farther from home and offering the same deal?
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 13:41
|
|
|
Well Played Mauer posted:I’m bummed but it’s understandable. Being able to get a mega deal from the best team (and perennial winners of the Bawfuls Memorial Best Regular Season Award) over the past few years, be on a coast closer to home, and plug into the Japanese speaking network that surrounds Ohtani and will only grow with Yamamoto there makes sense makes a lot of sense. Why go to either New York team when both are completely hosed up and farther from home and offering the same deal? Yeah, I don't know why Yankees fans are acting like it was purely a money thing and a few million more would have sealed the deal. On the Dodgers he gets to play for a good team with probably the best player of all time who is also his countryman.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 13:47
|
|
|
Nodoze posted:Probably, and a cheap thing. Once you are at 10/300 how can you go 12/325 is too much when it's less money per year
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:09
|
|
|
Hearing the Jays are finalists for Bellinger, so I assume he's signing with the Dodgers any minute now.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:17
|
|
|
Canned Sunshine posted:Yep, exactly. And honestly, for all the talk about the Ricketts, they had to take on a ton of debt to buy the team, so I still wonder how much money they actually have. It's easily enough to be Top 5 in payroll if they wanted to year-after-year, but the debt thing was always worrisome. Trump’s legal fees ain’t gonna pay themselves
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:18
|
|
|
disappointed that the yanks didn’t get yamamoto, would have liked watching that guy please don’t do something stupid
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:28
|
|
|
I think Boras feels confident that if the Yankees whiff on Snell they will give Bellinger the whole Brinks truck, because for The New York Yankees to be coming off their worst season in 30 years with four marquee free agents on the market and to sign none of them would just be unthinkable. I think Snell will be the guy they comically overpay though.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:39
|
|
|
Snell kind of sucks, signing him would be a huge mistake
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:40
|
|
|
Nodoze posted:This is probably a hot take but why bother trading for Soto if your gonna balk at signing Yamamoto over 25 million. Soto by himself isn't enough and now what are you left with They have to go for it every year while Judge and Cole are in their prime.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:42
|
|
|
Nodoze posted:Probably, and a cheap thing. Once you are at 10/300 how can you go 12/325 is too much when it's less money per year I saw another rumor that the Yankees had started at 9/325, I assume the Dodgers went to 12 years first and he took it. Or maybe I just want to think that.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:43
|
|
|
imo it's pretty clear that the Dodgers simply told Ohtani and Yamamoto "go shop for whatever offer you can get and then we'll match it." Everyone knew they wanted to sign with the Dodgers as long as the money was there, so there was really no reason for the Dodgers to pursue any other negotiating strategy.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:45
|
|
|
Inspector_666 posted:I saw another rumor that the Yankees had started at 9/325, I assume the Dodgers went to 12 years first and he took it. Or maybe I just want to think that. This makes no sense..... 9/325 is more money than 12/325
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:56
|
|
|
mcmagic posted:They have to go for it every year while Judge and Cole are in their prime. Trading for Soto alone isn't "going for it"
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 14:59
|
|
|
No Dodgers fan will be safe if they fail to win the World Series
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:00
|
|
|
Nodoze posted:Trading for Soto alone isn't "going for it" Yeah they need to make more incremental improvements all over the roster which isn't impossible but I don't really have faith in cashman to do it but also they are probably a playoff team now if Judge plays the whole season.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:03
|
|
|
snell is so boring to watch that I would honestly prefer a worse pitcher for the sake of my own selfish entertainment
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:10
|
|
|
325 million is probably an important number for both the agent and player. They both get to say they got the largest guarantee for a pitcher ever. The Yankees refusing to get to 325 is very disrespectful imo.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:20
|
|
|
Pissing off Gerrit Cole is probably not a great strategy either though. Anyway Snell can probably be had for less than $325M which is why I think that is what the Yankees will do (and spend the next 8 years regretting)
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:21
|
|
|
We don’t know the details on the opt outs I guess so who knows how similar these all are
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:22
|
|
|
I have to think the pivot for the Yanks is trying to pry Dylan Cease away from the White Sox. Since Reinsdorf is cheap, maybe that means eating Moncada’s salary to not send as many prospects
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:22
|
|
|
Cease had a 97 ERA+ last year, 2022 definitely looks to be a massive outlier.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:27
|
|
|
Eric the Mauve posted:Pissing off Gerrit Cole is probably not a great strategy either though. Willing to wager Cole would rather get a ring than hold some illusory contract record.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:28
|
|
|
Eric the Mauve posted:I think Boras feels confident that if the Yankees whiff on Snell they will give Bellinger the whole Brinks truck, because for The New York Yankees to be coming off their worst season in 30 years with four marquee free agents on the market and to sign none of them would just be unthinkable. Not all marquee free agents are created equal. Bellinger and Snell aren’t in the same class as Ohtani or Yamamoto I’m in the camp of “pay free agents, whatever, it’s not my money,” but I think a common mistake is to miss out on your top target and then immediately try to get the next best guy. If that happens enough times, you’re eventually bidding on someone who’s not really that good because you feel like you have to sign someone. It feels like basically every albatross contract was handed out by a team hoping to get a chair before the music stopped
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:30
|
|
|
I'd take that bet. It's not about a record, it's about his own team paying another pitcher more money than him. It's not rational but it's the logic held by many professional athletes, your value as a person is entirely encapsulated by the amount of money you are being paid. Professional athletes are, well, professionals. Most of them would sure like to get a ring if they can, but money is more important. Just like money is more important to me than being named Employee of the Year.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:30
|
|
|
Nodoze posted:Snell kind of sucks, signing him would be a huge mistake Is that Randy Levine's music I hear?!
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:35
|
|
|
Cole is taking his opt out after this season and the Yankees will then tack on a year at 36 million. He can't really do anything about it.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:35
|
|
|
Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Cole is taking his opt out after this season and the Yankees will then tack on a year at 36 million. He can't really do anything about it. He seems perfectly fine to stay here? it's worked out.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:37
|
|
|
Ya for sure. But why would he not use his opt out? The Yankees then have the option to void it by adding another year at 36 million. He'd be nuts not to do it.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:37
|
|
|
gently caress it. RAINN Toxx. If the Yankees don't panic overpay for a mediocre-plus or extremely injury-prone player before New Year's Day, I will donate $25 to RAINN in Verdugo's name.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:40
|
|
|
I love players getting money. I just get sad when it's only the one team spending all of it.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:44
|
|
|
Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Ya for sure. But why would he not use his opt out? The Yankees then have the option to void it by adding another year at 36 million. He'd be nuts not to do it. Of course he's going to do that and of course the Yankees are going add the extra year. Nodoze posted:Cease had a 97 ERA+ last year, 2022 definitely looks to be a massive outlier. I prefer Burnes to Cease. The guy I wanted was ERod but you guys shat all over that idea but he would've been a better value than any of these guys.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:45
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 21:07 |
|
|
Explosionface posted:I love players getting money. I just get sad when it's only the one team spending all of it. the other teams are trying to spend it but they are not located in los angeles
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2023 15:45
|
|
