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Taear posted:Both of his episodes are super low scored on Gateworld and IMDB. I get it for the latter one - it breaks rules set previously in the show, it's in a really poo poo location and it's very very similar to his first episode. But the first one was loads of fun, can't believe they hate it so much. Discourse around that time was that what Lucius Lavin did tantamount to rape, and the episode kinda played it for laughs.
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xerxus posted:Discourse around that time was that what Lucius Lavin did tantamount to rape, and the episode kinda played it for laughs. Ah man yea I can see it. I guess they spend so little time in the village I didn't even consider that side of it I vaguely remember stuff in the thread at the time but it was on while i was at uni and didn't get on the forums as much
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Taear posted:I thought he was Bruce Boxleitner style where everyone knew he was right wing but he didn't go on about it? He used to be, but the transition from Obama to Trump made him a lot more vocal and now he's doing poo poo like making Z-grade movies about Joe Biden's kids with fellow right wing pariah Gina Carano. So not so much anymore.
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nine-gear crow posted:He used to be, but the transition from Obama to Trump made him a lot more vocal and now he's doing poo poo like making Z-grade movies about Joe Biden's kids with fellow right wing pariah Gina Carano. So not so much anymore. loving hell Obama really broke a lot of right wing american brains
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nine-gear crow posted:He used to be, but the transition from Obama to Trump made him a lot more vocal and now he's doing poo poo like making Z-grade movies about Joe Biden's kids with fellow right wing pariah Gina Carano. So not so much anymore. You sure about that? I can't find any movie or tv show they are in together. You might be confusing him with someone else.
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Burning_Monk posted:You sure about that? I can't find any movie or tv show they are in together. You might be confusing him with someone else. The movie was My Son Hunter, about Hunter Biden's massive cocaine penis and other weird right wing conspiracy obsession poo poo. Carano plays a Secret Service agent in it and it's directed by Robert Davi, so he doesn't appear in it as an actor.
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nine-gear crow posted:The movie was My Son Hunter, about Hunter Biden's massive cocaine penis and other weird right wing conspiracy obsession poo poo. Carano plays a Secret Service agent in it and it's directed by Robert Davi, so he doesn't appear in it as an actor. Aw I see, thanks
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Just caught Ripple Effect from season 9 of SG-1 since I'm in a hotel right now and don't really have much to do. It's very clearly an episode for the fans but man the density of references in the script is insane. Every third line is a reference to another episode. While that is super cool in some respects (especially as someone who has seen every episode of SG1/SGA/SGU) no wonder they started to hit problems with retaining fans and attracting new ones. You can also feel the influence of BSG with darker themes while they're also trying to do the early SG1 style sarcastic streak. Definitely a weird era of Sci-fi/SyFy we will probably never see again. I also think that was their first or second season in HD and some stuff looks shockingly good but then you get a shot of Prometheus from season 6 uprezzed or a base corridor that is just so clearly wooden. One last thing, what the gently caress is Cam's character supposed to be about? Loved Farscape so I have no issues with Browder, but drat they couldn't work him out. Is he jokey like Jack? Super heroic and chivalrous? A bit of a cad? Damaged from being shot down over Antarctica? I feel like they just couldn't quite work it out and it's a waste of acting talent and charm. In short: Late run SG-1 is a land of contrasts.
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To be fair, all of that applies to Jack too to some extent, just he's damaged from being special forces and his kid shooting himself.
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IRQ posted:To be fair, all of that applies to Jack too to some extent, just he's damaged from being special forces and his kid shooting himself. You're certainly not wrong. There are parts in the middle of the show's run where Jack doesn't understand the basics of physics and then is clearly a dude who is into astronomy and keeps it to himself. I guess Cam just sort of gets hosed with only two seasons.
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with jack it's believable that he sometimes plays dumb just to gently caress with people. cam had a bit of charm but he was so much more blandly military than jack that it makes late-era sg-1 feel distinctly Post 9/11 in a way the show had mostly dodged up to that point
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Giving earth a fleet of space aircraft carriers and stuff to the point they were a superpower in this galaxy really didn't help that feeling any.
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I think they also didn't want to have Browder just playing Crichton again, but unlike with Black, they didn't completely zig away from it, so you just end up with O'Neill, Southern Edition.
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For all the final seasons aren't that great, I never saw the movies and putting on Ark of Truth is like dropping right back into the show again.
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I actually still really like seasons 9 and 10, and for all that Mitchell is basically just Jack with a dash of good ol' boy dispensing Granny's wisdom, Browder's enough of a pro that he slots right into the cast and has chemistry with basically everyone. And Black feels like she should've been on the show years earlier for how perfectly she fits a niche that doesn't make her feel like she's doubling up on anyone (the issue that Jonas and Cam have, with being fairly obvious replacements)
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Jazerus posted:with jack it's believable that he sometimes plays dumb just to gently caress with people. cam had a bit of charm but he was so much more blandly military than jack that it makes late-era sg-1 feel distinctly Post 9/11 in a way the show had mostly dodged up to that point Jack definitely plays dumb, he's got a masters in engineering and in the black hole episode as soon as Carter makes clear how serious the situation is, he immediately drops the act and starts listening to her explanation, all business. He's not mega-genius smart like Carter or Daniel but he's not as stupid as he pretends to be, either.
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I cannot hate on late SG-1 because Claudia Black is there.
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The Farscape cast being added to Stargate was a great choice.
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Cojawfee posted:The Farscape cast being added to Stargate was a great choice. Yeah, they were both great fun. Didn't always have the best scripts to work with as the ori sorta sucked, but they made what they did have better.
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After binging I legit prefer Cam/Vala SG1 to early SG1, it has a great energy. It's funny how in Atlantis they're always introducing themselves by their rank. Why the gently caress would these aliens know what a colonel is? There's only one episode where they explain this to people but it kinda hangs a lantern on all the other times when they didn't do it. I was thinking how they sorta miss out on making a thing in Atlantis of how all the civilizations use the stargate. It should change things up quite a lot compared to the Milky Way but it doesn't, it's a shame.
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Cojawfee posted:The Farscape cast being added to Stargate was a great choice. Yes, it meant that they weren't making any more Farscape.
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Jedit posted:Yes, it meant that they weren't making any more Farscape. I feel like Peacekeeper Wars was one of those lessons of be very careful about what you wish for. Since we're getting a touch broader in subjects here, I will say Claudia Black showing up in The Nevers made me happy as all hell. Next on my hotel adventure, which lasts for another month will be the SGA premiere. And holy poo poo Robert Patrick showed up in this thing didn't he.
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Surprise Claudia Black in the last season of Ashoka.
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I'm rewatching SG-U on PrimeVideo. I wasn't really sure why it was that despised back during its original run. Well, that was until I got to S1E18 and the loving Lucian Alliance became a major plot point.
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Body swap rape stones were a bit of an issue, also being obnoxiously grimdark. But what got me the most was how exceedingly rarely they actually used the Stargate in a Stargate show. The times they did were among their better episodes too.
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Don’t forget the nonstop montages.
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People loved the have you ever seen the rain one, so why not do one every episode??
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IRQ posted:Body swap rape stones were a bit of an issue, also being obnoxiously grimdark.
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Yeah nowadays it's like "There's a lot of hosed up implications in our setting." "Let's make a plotline out of them!"
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It also eased up in season 2. I still really like the scene where Ming-Na Wen uses the stones to visit her wife at their house and she realises she's already forgotten stuff about their home. Granted a lot of that is in Wen's performance, but it stuck with me.
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It’s a good idea for a show too. They needed more isolation from earth and less ancient ship dues ex machinas any real threat to the passengers.
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I literally can't get over the whining and screaming. Everyone on SG-U is a loving toddler and I hate it
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Part of the appeal of Trek and SG-1 and Atlantis and so on is Competency Porn and SG-U just doesn't hit that note at all
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alexandriao posted:I literally can't get over the whining and screaming.
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How it should be is they're on when stakes are high and then when there's nothing important to do they gently caress each other and cause drama
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Combat Pretzel posted:…and then I remember real life and how tons of friends and coworkers are the same type of helpless babies. IDK I mean it felt super Lord Of The Flies in a way that most people provably are not.
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alexandriao posted:I literally can't get over the whining and screaming. Its pretty standard reactions for mostly non-military people trapped in a whats seems doomed situation. They are not trained for this, most are civilian contractors, one minute scanning alien planet rock for bacteria, next thing 50 galaxies away with little food, water, and air. I would be bitching too. Young is one of the few trying to keep his poo poo together, but has cracks in his personality from conflicts with Rushe and others.
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Combat Pretzel posted:I'm rewatching SG-U on PrimeVideo. I wasn't really sure why it was that despised back during its original run. Well, that was until I got to S1E18 and the loving Lucian Alliance became a major plot point. The military hardmen have to be in charge because they know how to get things done and the egghead ivory tower educated people can't be trusted with ideas and rights. Which then becomes the scientists are a functional slave caste to the soldiers. And this is a good thing. The leader of the military junta aboard ship murders subversive intellectuals, this is also good actually. The cool warrior badass who always has to be a person of colour (its own distinct problem in the franchise) was an unhinged violent psychotic, and if I remember correctly also creepy and stalkery towards one of the women characters. But we should like him because none of that is wildly unacceptable or anything. Rape stones. In an attempt to make things grittier they both missed what put joy into SG1, and accidentally made a 14 year old sex weirdo's Cult of the Warrior fascist power fantasy. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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I just remember the one military guy going full buck naked so he could get an even tan when the ship plunged into a sun.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:The military hardmen have to be in charge because they know how to get things done and the egghead ivory tower educated people can't be trusted with ideas and rights. Which then becomes the scientists are a functional slave caste to the soldiers. And this is a good thing. I dunno if this shift comes completely with the advent of Stargate Universe; there was always a strong boy's club energy to Atlantis, with Weir increasingly diminished in capacity and clout while McKay (and Shepard, but particularly McKay) got away with some fairly egregious flaws in conduct, judgement, etc. Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Dec 23, 2023 |
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