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Lurks With Wolves posted:According to Jim Ross, it was just that there was a Texan linebacker who had the nickname Booger Red from the much rarer "weird way of saying boogieman" etymology of booger and he wanted to call back to that. But also, Willie Nelson got the nickname Booger Red as a child for nosebleed related reasons and he's just as Texan as everyone else in this conversation, so the whole thing was ruined from the start. Thank you
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little munchkin posted:the bastion booger gimmick was a punishment because the dude failed/refused to lose weight after vince told him to. not sure if the discust was real/worked but vince's whole goal there was to publicly humiliate the guy I was curious about who that was and it turns out I'm watching this guy currently. He is performing under the gimmick Norman the Psycho. He isn't very good. I'm nearing Great Amerucan Bash 1989. Excited for the Flair v Funk fight. It kind of feels like a bunch of the big name wrestlers have disappeared from TV, but I'm enjoying the Skyscrappers with new guy Sid Vicious, Flying Brian Pillman, and the Freebirds. There are a lot of good wrestlers and good angles going on. There is a cowboy dude with a whip who I don't really care for either and lmao at the ding dongs again. Their gimmick is bad and they aren't very good wrestlers. Edit: Tommy rich seems decent. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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I was trying to think who cowboy with a whip would apply to at that point (Stan Hansen was in Japan in 1989 and also he's awesome), it was probably Wild Bill Irwin. Who much later would be legendary WWE wrestler The Goon
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DeathChicken posted:I was trying to think who cowboy with a whip would apply to at that point (Stan Hansen was in Japan in 1989 and also he's awesome), it was probably Wild Bill Irwin. Who much later would be legendary WWE wrestler The Goon Yeah that guy. There were so many cowboy gimmicks
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I had totally forgotten Harlem Heat used to come to the ring escorted by Colonel Robert Parker  this era of wcw sure is something
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HonorableTB posted:I had totally forgotten Harlem Heat used to come to the ring escorted by Colonel Robert Parker Worse than that, they were originally supposed to on a chain gang.
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Davros1 posted:Worse than that, they were originally supposed to on a chain gang. Just as bad as that they, were originally named Kole and Kane.
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Davros1 posted:Worse than that, they were originally supposed to on a chain gang.  jesus christ pro wrestling is so racist. At least it's gotten a lot better since then?**my brain conjured up muhammad hassan out of nowhere
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HonorableTB posted:
Remember when WWE wanted Mustafa Ali to do a terrorist gimmick in the bygone age of 2021
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They turned Jason Jordan into Kurt Angle’s secret son that he was ashamed of because there was a rumor that Kurt found black women attractive.
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HonorableTB posted:
The rumor for YEARS was that they were supposed to be SLAVES. In the Twentieth century
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Drakkel posted:Remember when WWE wanted Mustafa Ali to do a terrorist gimmick in the bygone age of 2021 I was not aware of that because I haven't watched WWE since around 2012 or so but  that sounds like a vince idea
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HonorableTB posted:I was not aware of that because I haven't watched WWE since around 2012 or so but They wanted him to be behind 9/11, despite you, him being too young, for starters. and then everything else
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Pope Corky the IX posted:They turned Jason Jordan into Kurt Angle’s secret son that he was ashamed of because there was a rumor that Kurt found black women attractive. Wonder how they could have thought about that idea, it's not like Kurt Angle was feuding with Booker T in the mid-2000s because he wanted to have "Beastiality Sex" with Sharmell or anything. Oh wait...
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LIVE TORRID SEX
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Germansimp posted:Wonder how they could have thought about that idea, it's not like Kurt Angle was feuding with Booker T in the mid-2000s because he wanted to have "Beastiality Sex" with Sharmell or anything. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.
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Halloween Jack posted:There's an anecdote in the ancient history thread about two anthropologists living in a recreated medieval village, studying medieval hygiene. They did an experiment where one didn't bathe, but washed his clothes, while the other used a modern shower every day, but didn't change clothes. The latter guy was so stinky they abandoned it after a week. part of it is probably laziness, the other part is being on the road constantly. kevin nash tells a story in one of his shoots about being overseas working shows with razor. he's splashing brut on and wearing the same gear for days on end while they're travelling and nash goes "i'm locking up with that every night and you wonder why i get backstage and pop a handful of pills?"
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Not sure what point you're trying to make here. That the Jason Jordan story wasn't the first time Kurt was in a lovely angle because of his supposed love of black women.
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Joey McChrist posted:part of it is probably laziness, the other part is being on the road constantly. kevin nash tells a story in one of his shoots about being overseas working shows with razor. he's splashing brut on and wearing the same gear for days on end while they're travelling and nash goes "i'm locking up with that every night and you wonder why i get backstage and pop a handful of pills?" I never thought about what Razor Ramon would smell like but Brut is absolutely spot on. It's the Axe of the 90s
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Davros1 posted:The rumor for YEARS was that they were supposed to be SLAVES. In the Twentieth century Stevie Ray claimed on his podcast that the chains were his idea and they were supposed to be broken, representing freedom and strength. They apparently didn't ever come out with the chains, but they did make an entrance with Colonel Rob Parker, but it was an accident. There was a miscommunication and he followed them out even though that wasn't the plan. Stevie says this story has been all twisted up over the years. His podcast is very entertaining. But as far as racism in wrestling, that's the reason he gives for not going with Booker to the WWE. Booker doesn't mind doing comedy, but Stevie feels like it's too close to minstrelsy quite often.
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Germansimp posted:That the Jason Jordan story wasn't the first time Kurt was in a lovely angle because of his supposed love of black women. My apologies, I read that wrong. I thought you were saying that it was Kurt's fault for taking part in the first angle.
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Animal-Mother posted:Stevie Ray claimed on his podcast that the chains were his idea and they were supposed to be broken, representing freedom and strength. They apparently didn't ever come out with the chains, but they did make an entrance with Colonel Rob Parker, but it was an accident. There was a miscommunication and he followed them out even though that wasn't the plan. Stevie says this story has been all twisted up over the years. His podcast is very entertaining. There's a Fall Brawl poster where you can just see them wearing to chains. Like Nikita Koloff did.
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Joey McChrist posted:part of it is probably laziness, the other part is being on the road constantly. kevin nash tells a story in one of his shoots about being overseas working shows with razor. he's splashing brut on and wearing the same gear for days on end while they're travelling and nash goes "i'm locking up with that every night and you wonder why i get backstage and pop a handful of pills?" Totally talking from the gut, but I imagine most ring gear has more complex laundry care instructions than 'machine wash cold'. Leather pants, in Nash's case, are basically hand cleaned if you want to do it for yourself and not take them to a cleaner. And if you're in the 300 day a year grind, I don't imagine he had time to go take them out on his few days off. It gets weirder when you realize that the 'garbage' wrestler outfit - cut t-shirt and denim shorts - was much easier to keep clean. The ECW locker room likely smelled better than the WCW or WWF ones.
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I absolutely do not think the ECW locker room smelled better than anything except perhaps the local landfill
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lol you think anyone in ECW was getting paid enough to wash their clothes lol you think anyone in ECW was getting paid
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It's weird to me that a wrestling company on the level of WCW/WWE wouldn't just have a few duplicates of everyone's gear that'd get washed regularly and handed out at the show instead of relying on every single wrestler just carrying the one singlet that they have to sweat into every night 6 nights a week 52 weeks a year but I guess you don't get rich by doing things that are beneficial to your employees.
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History Comes Inside! posted:lol you think anyone in ECW was getting paid enough to wash their clothes statistically speaking there was probably at least one ECW show where a fan made more money than any of the wrestlers because when heyman used to eject assholes he would refund them twice what they paid for their ticket Drakkel posted:It's weird to me that a wrestling company on the level of WCW/WWE wouldn't just have a few duplicates of everyone's gear that'd get washed regularly and handed out at the show instead of relying on every single wrestler just carrying the one singlet that they have to sweat into every night 6 nights a week 52 weeks a year but I guess you don't get rich by doing things that are beneficial to your employees. *in extremely vince mcmahon voice* THAT'S GETTIN' TOO CLOSE TO "EMPLOYEE" STATUS, PAL! THE SUPERSTARS IN THE WWE ARE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS THEN, NOW, FOREVER
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Animal-Mother posted:Stevie Ray claimed on his podcast that the chains were his idea and they were supposed to be broken, representing freedom and strength. They apparently didn't ever come out with the chains, but they did make an entrance with Colonel Rob Parker, but it was an accident. There was a miscommunication and he followed them out even though that wasn't the plan. Stevie says this story has been all twisted up over the years. His podcast is very entertaining. They were supposed to be a chain gang it's obvious from the costumes and the entrance we have. It's a very very very stupid gimmick.
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Yeah, I’m not sure why we’re bothering trying to figure out how racist it wasn’t?
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It's also a bit silly somebody told them to be Harlem Heat. There are black people in Houston. Booker and Stevie might know about this.
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Animal-Mother posted:It's also a bit silly somebody told them to be Harlem Heat. There are black people in Houston. Booker and Stevie might know about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VamK9A9UhBg
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Drakkel posted:It's weird to me that a wrestling company on the level of WCW/WWE wouldn't just have a few duplicates of everyone's gear that'd get washed regularly and handed out at the show instead of relying on every single wrestler just carrying the one singlet that they have to sweat into every night 6 nights a week 52 weeks a year but I guess you don't get rich by doing things that are beneficial to your employees. If you are willing to accept the presented lore, every piece of ring gear for each person is individually handmade by a single tailor who works continuously at a folding table in a hallway somewhere backstage so you probably have a bit of a wait between outfits
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what are you going to do... tell big van vader he smells like poo poo to his face
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Pope Corky the IX posted:They turned Jason Jordan into Kurt Angle’s secret son that he was ashamed of because there was a rumor that Kurt found black women attractive. Honestly there's enough of a similarity in appearance between them that that gimmick was happening right around the time I started watching WWE on the regular for the first time and it actually took me a couple months to realize it was a gimmick because I was still new enough to wrestling as something I actually paid attention to that I was still learning how everything worked
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it was a worked shoot he is kurt angles son for real but they dont want you to know that
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Animal-Mother posted:It's also a bit silly somebody told them to be Harlem Heat. There are black people in Houston. Booker and Stevie might know about this. sure, but Harlem Hangover sounds better than Houston Hangover.
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drrockso20 posted:Honestly there's enough of a similarity in appearance between them that that gimmick was happening right around the time I started watching WWE on the regular for the first time and it actually took me a couple months to realize it was a gimmick because I was still new enough to wrestling as something I actually paid attention to that I was still learning how everything worked How old are you?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:How old are you? 33, I just didn't really pay much attention to Wrestling till around 2015-2016 for some reason
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:what are you going to do... tell big van vader he smells like poo poo to his face we have verifiable proof that if you did he just starts crying
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