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Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Suspicious posted:

how is interfering with an investigation of geneva convention violations not triggering a "are we the baddies" moment

at the risk of burgerposting - that moment happened twenty some odd years ago with the Hague Invasion Act and the conclusive answer was that the US was 100% in on being baddies

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apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Suspicious posted:

how is interfering with an investigation of geneva convention violations not triggering a "are we the baddies" moment

Why do you assume they care?

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Complications posted:

at the risk of burgerposting - that moment happened twenty some odd years ago with the Hague Invasion Act and the conclusive answer was that the US was 100% in on being baddies

Let me guess, are you about 40?

Personally I think it was rebelling against the crown to genocide more natives that was the first we are 100% the baddies moment for Amerikkka. If you want a more recent examples of the USA just leaning in to it, there is the public response to the My Lai massacre perpetrators facing any justice. America has coincidentally been on the right side of only one war afaik.

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007
no lube anal fan

Weka posted:

Let me guess, are you about 40?

Personally I think it was rebelling against the crown to genocide more natives that was the first we are 100% the baddies moment for Amerikkka. If you want a more recent examples of the USA just leaning in to it, there is the public response to the My Lai massacre perpetrators facing any justice. America has coincidentally been on the right side of only one war afaik.

…kinda giving the USA some group credit but sure

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/mercoglianos/status/1738326175909298331

quote:

gcaptain.com
Spain, Italy, France Decline US Command Of Red Sea Operation Prosperity Guardian
Reuters
4–5 minutes
by Dmitry Zhdannikov (Reuters)

The United States is assembling a multinational naval coalition to help safeguard commercial traffic from attacks by Yemen’s Houthi movement. On Thursday, the Pentagon said more than 20 countries had now agreed to participate in the group, known as Operation Prosperity Guardian.

Some countries have not confirmed their participation, however, while others have said their efforts to help protect Red Sea commercial traffic will be as part of existing naval agreements rather than the new U.S.-led operation.

The lack of details and clarity over what countries are doing has added to confusion for shipping companies, some of which have been re-routing vessels away from the area after the attacks, which the Houthis say are a response to Israel’s assault on the Gaza Strip.

WHAT HAS THE UNITED STATES ANNOUNCED?

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin announced on Tuesday plans to set up a multinational coalition to safeguard Red Sea shipping called Operation Prosperity Guardian.

During a trip to the Middle East, he said the operations would be joined by Britain, Bahrain, Canada, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Seychelles and Spain.

On Thursday, Austin said Greece and Australia had also joined the grouping, taking it to a total of 20, but added that at least eight countries taking part have declined to be publicly named.

WHAT ARE OTHER NATIONS SAYING?
– FRANCE

France’s Defence Ministry said it supported efforts to secure freedom of navigation in the Red Sea and surrounding area and said it already operated in the region but it said its ships would stay under French command and did not say if it would deploy more naval forces.

France has a naval base in the United Arab Emirates and 1,500 troops in Djibouti. Its frigate Languedoc is now in the Red Sea.

– ITALY

Italy’s Defence Ministry said it would send naval frigate Virginio Fasan to the Red Sea to protect its national interests in response to specific requests made by Italian shipowners.

It said this was part of its existing operations and was not part of Operation Prosperity Guardian.

– SPAIN

Spain’s Defence Ministry said it would only participate in NATO-led missions or EU-coordinated operations. “We will not participate unilaterally in the Red Sea operation,” it said.
– BRITAIN

Britain said destroyer HMS Diamond would join Operation Prosperity Guardian. Britain’s defense ministry said the coalition would operate as part of the U.S.-led CMF.
– GREECE

Greece said on Thursday it would send a naval frigate to the Red Sea and that it would participate in Operation Prosperity Guardian.
– OTHER COUNTRIES

The Netherlands said it would send two staff officers and Norway said it would send 10 naval officers to Bahrain, the headquarters of CMF. Denmark said on Wednesday that it would take part in the operation, sending one officer.

WHAT EXISTING NAVAL COALITIONS OPERATE IN THE AREA?

Several navies are already part of international operations to protect shipping lanes in the region, including protecting vessels from pirates who for several years disrupted shipping off the coast of Somalia.
The missions include:

– Operation Atalanta, set up by European Union Naval Force Somalia (EUNAVFOR), operates off the Horn of Africa and in the Western Indian Ocean to support U.N. resolutions to protect the seas from piracy. Its headquarters is in Spain.

– Operation Agenor is a European-led operation which aims to guarantee freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, a major shipping lane for oil exports from Gulf states.

– Combined Maritime Forces (CMF) is a multinational maritime partnership led by the U.S. from Bahrain, the based for the U.S. Navy Fifth Fleet. CMF has 39 members, including NATO and European states, regional countries and other nations. One of its missions is the Combined Task Force 153 (CTF 153), which operates in the Red Sea.

(Reporting by Reuters European bureaus; Writing by Dmitry Zhdannikov and Rachel Armstrong; Editing by Edmund Blair and Catherine Evans)
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lol at basically nothing being sent after the usn asked for the coalition of willing to help

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

Weka posted:

Let me guess, are you about 40?

Personally I think it was rebelling against the crown to genocide more natives that was the first we are 100% the baddies moment for Amerikkka. If you want a more recent examples of the USA just leaning in to it, there is the public response to the My Lai massacre perpetrators facing any justice. America has coincidentally been on the right side of only one war afaik.

Yeah, the king said “Actually the natives have some land that belongs to them, you guys need to keep out.” Also they signed anti-slavery laws in England that they were afraid would come here. But when I was a kid I learned that they were just really mad about tea taxes.

If you want a sense of how vile Americans were, and mostly still are, just look at Israel.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Weka posted:

Let me guess, are you about 40?

Personally I think it was rebelling against the crown to genocide more natives that was the first we are 100% the baddies moment for Amerikkka. If you want a more recent examples of the USA just leaning in to it, there is the public response to the My Lai massacre perpetrators facing any justice. America has coincidentally been on the right side of only one war afaik.

two, the american civil war and world war 2

Jon Carbuncle
Sep 21, 2002


Soiled Meat
D-GENERATION H!!!

sorry dang thread title has had that stuck in my head for days

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
Proposal: A quick raid into bordering kibbitzes to capture hostages to exchange for Palestinian prisoners

Reality: Accidentally causing the total collapse of Western hegemony

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Danann posted:

lol at basically nothing being sent after the usn asked for the coalition of willing to help

everyone knows when their ships get missile'ed the USN is gonna do exactly nothing

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022

Weka posted:

The terrorist Trashy Tony is unstoppable

he litters for all of us

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/mercoglianos/status/1738326175909298331

lol at basically nothing being sent after the usn asked for the coalition of willing to help

The US tried to pull their ukranian strat of having europe produce most of the stuff early on to have it get blown up to make them look bad while saying their poo poo is getting constantly delayed

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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1stGear posted:

Proposal: A quick raid into bordering kibbitzes to capture hostages to exchange for Palestinian prisoners

Reality: Accidentally causing the total collapse of Western hegemony

incredible when you realize its only just over 30 years of post-USSR lmao

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022
Trashy Tony slapping the Litteral combat ahip full of stolen cig cartons into the suez and the houthis lift him up like when supa hot fire ended man's whole career

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Russia commiting 3 giant turtles to Operation Properity. Lok tar ogar

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 20 days!
I got another day probation for a post that was 100% serious because it wasn't funny enough. D&D is wild. In that 24 hours I was proven totally right lol.

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/mercoglianos/status/1738326175909298331

lol at basically nothing being sent after the usn asked for the coalition of willing to help

Did the US announce this operation without consulting any of the countries they said were committed? It certainly sounds like that's what happened.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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VoicesCanBe posted:

Did the US announce this operation without consulting any of the countries they said were committed? It certainly sounds like that's what happened.

its even funnier when none of the commercial shipping is actually threatened unless they are heading from/to israel or israeli owned

so the US planned an empire face-saving op to lose even more face

insane clown pussy
Jun 20, 2023

OctaMurk posted:

the littoral combat ship was littorally built for this poo poo and it's so bad they cant even use it for its purpose!

hadji murad
Apr 18, 2006

Grem posted:

I got another day probation for a post that was 100% serious because it wasn't funny enough. D&D is wild. In that 24 hours I was proven totally right lol.

that boring rear end in a top hat who posts walls of texts said that no one in D&D was pro Israel the other day and probably believes that.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

Yeah, the king said “Actually the natives have some land that belongs to them, you guys need to keep out.” Also they signed anti-slavery laws in England that they were afraid would come here. But when I was a kid I learned that they were just really mad about tea taxes.

If you want a sense of how vile Americans were, and mostly still are, just look at Israel.

Pretty sure that was the other way around. The anti-slave trade laws were just an economic sanction now that Britain wouldn't profit directly from the work after independence. Didn't actually stop them using slaves or kidnapping Pacific Islanders to work as slaves in Australia. As hosed as America is, they learnt it all from Britain and other European powers.

The Voice of Labor posted:

two, the american civil war and world war 2

The ACW is only on a technicality. They didn't give a gently caress about abolitionism. Industrial bourgeoisie vs rural aristocracy rear end war.

WhiskeyWhiskers has issued a correction as of 04:29 on Dec 23, 2023

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 15 hours!

sullat posted:

Also the only reason they were arrested was because they were accusing each other of commiting crimes.

This feels like a sitcom.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



https://www.jta.org/2019/10/31/glob...ole-their-torah

In 1998, Levi wrote to the Taliban interior minister to accuse Simentov of theft of Jewish relics. Simentov retorted by telling the Taliban that Levi ran a secret brothel where he sold alcohol, which Levi denies. Simentov also spread rumors that Levi had converted to Islam, which Levi denied as well.

lol

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Owlbear Camus posted:

https://www.jta.org/2019/10/31/glob...ole-their-torah

In 1998, Levi wrote to the Taliban interior minister to accuse Simentov of theft of Jewish relics. Simentov retorted by telling the Taliban that Levi ran a secret brothel where he sold alcohol, which Levi denies. Simentov also spread rumors that Levi had converted to Islam, which Levi denied as well.

lol

this is also a great one

quote:

When he returned, Simentov encountered Yitzhak Levi, nearly two decades his senior, living at the Kabul synagogue. The two did not hit it off: They “fought viciously about which of them was the rightful owner of the land,” according to a 2017 Jewish Telegraphic Agency profile of Simentov. They moved into different wings of the synagogue.

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

galagazombie posted:

For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is Eve Fartlow? This is Eve Fartlow speaking. I am the woman who loves her gas. I am the woman who does not sacrifice her indigestion or her flatulence. I am the woman who has deprived you of pepto-bismol and thus has destroyed your toilet.

From now on I call you Prep H. Preparation Hemorrhoid.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

The ACW is only on a technicality. They didn't give a gently caress about abolitionism. Industrial bourgeoisie vs rural aristocracy rear end war.

you could say the case with ww2 is similar. the country which, after the war, hired a bunch of nazis and got the rest their old jobs back wasn't exactly in it to crush fascism

raverrn
Apr 5, 2005

Unidentified spacecraft inbound from delta line.

All Silpheed squadrons scramble now!


https://twitter.com/jonnysocialism/status/1738259329516736964?s=20

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

The Voice of Labor posted:

you could say the case with ww2 is similar. the country which, after the war, hired a bunch of nazis and got the rest their old jobs back wasn't exactly in it to crush fascism

True. No Just wars by the US

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

bedpan posted:

this is also a great one

Afghan national treasures imo

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
https://x.com/fuknslammer/status/1738297630734651569?s=46

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Egg Moron posted:

When they fart high we fartlow

Anthony Balogna
Dec 19, 2023

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

Yeah, the king said “Actually the natives have some land that belongs to them, you guys need to keep out.”

Where/how can I read more about this?

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

Anthony Balogna posted:

Where/how can I read more about this?

Royal proclamation of 1763

Edit imo start with reading about Thomas Morton

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Anthony Balogna posted:

Where/how can I read more about this?

Probably referring to the Proclamation of 1763. After the 7 years/French and Indian War, King Georgie didn't want the colonists to gently caress around west of the Appilations because the crown just spent a bunch fighting in the colonies and didn't want to spend more pounds sterling bailing out a bunch of Pennsylvania fuckers who pissed off the Choctaw or whatever.

Naturally us ignorant colonials took this as a tyrannical abrogation of our divine right to free real estate.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

The ACW is only on a technicality.

Actually it was good because they were fighting America.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

True. No Just wars by the US

weka did specify coincidentally

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

HashtagGirlboss posted:

I think she’s a music journalist

is that why I keep hearing what I think are tuba sounds coming from Eve's apartment all day and night

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Poppers posted:

That’s because I invented it. Now I will be showing my school children some badass gore.

It's probably not worse than what they're showing each other on the blacktop

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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so this whole op created nothing except more embarrassment

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I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

How does the U.S. military announce a military operation, and then be like "whooops never mind we don't have the man power for this lmao."

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