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It isn't an RPG if you don't have a level up screen and at least four stats.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:If bioshock infinite had japanese subtitles, half this forum would consider it the greatest game of all time, lmao pretty sure you can turn on japanese subtitles if you want to
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Dec 23, 2023 14:05
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Vic posted:Here just compare. I know I'm being a dickhead here, because I'm contributing to the repetitive DS2 conversation by saying the same thing I say every time, but all the same I just really can't let this slide; The rat king covenant is the best part of any game I've ever played. I can't have you reducing this to a "lol two rats" insult without sticking up for it.
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Dec 23, 2023 14:28
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Dick Fontaine posted:undertale is old enough to be a furry dad game Furry Uncle Game surely
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Dec 23, 2023 14:31
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dr_rat posted:Just going to put out there, there are far, far more RPG's with terrible plots than great ones. almost all media is derivative and bad, but as long as it's enjoyable for what it is, it's kind of beside the point. really good stuff doesn't come along that often. most people have awful taste. the goal is to have fun and consume the media you like so there's usually no point in harping on it or telling people that the things they like are stupid. people like what they like. except anime, all anime is stupid and only exists because tiddies. (cowboy bebop notwithstanding)
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Dec 23, 2023 14:31
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dr_rat posted:Just going to put out there, there are far, far more RPG's with terrible plots than great ones. It's not even close, especially in these days where there are studios in Japan dedicated to pumping them out faster than you can imagine. Even back in the heyday of the JRPG, they were over 80% total garbage. The US was generally only getting the very best of them so you can just imagine how bad the rest were.
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Dec 23, 2023 15:58
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there aren't any video games with good plots
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Dec 23, 2023 16:00
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dr_rat posted:Just going to put out there, there are far, far more RPG's with terrible plots than great ones. Lmao did you think this was groundbreaking info or something?
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Dec 23, 2023 16:01
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:there aren't any video games with good plots Command and conquer red alert 3 
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Dec 23, 2023 16:29
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Cosmik Debris posted:Command and conquer red alert 3 no sorry
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Dec 23, 2023 16:35
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:no sorry *checks thread title Yup, checks out. "Dis gun's heavy"
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Dec 23, 2023 17:08
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Cosmik Debris posted:Command and conquer red alert 3 Whether or not that's true it's clear the actors were all having a blast making it. Plus it gave us this incredible moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM
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Dec 23, 2023 17:44
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:there aren't any video games with good plots Silent Hill 2 is the closest and would make a pretty good Outer Limits episode (the 90s one)
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Dec 23, 2023 18:48
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Alexander Hamilton posted:Silent Hill 2 is the closest 
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Dec 23, 2023 18:55
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:there aren't any video games with good plots *chuckles* it's seams some one hasn't heard of sould reaver...
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Dec 23, 2023 19:35
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!Klams posted:I know I'm being a dickhead here, because I'm contributing to the repetitive DS2 conversation by saying the same thing I say every time, but all the same I just really can't let this slide; Agreed. DS2 had the best PvP if only because of things like the rat covenant.
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Dec 23, 2023 20:10
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:there aren't any video games with good plots FFTA. Marche is the best antagonist I've ever played.
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Ravus Ursus posted:FFTA. That's the game where you put your brother where he belongs (back in a wheelchair) right?
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Yes. It also has the bullies from the opening fight reappear later as zombies.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:If bioshock infinite had japanese subtitles, half this forum would consider it the greatest game of all time, lmao  i sat on that game for like a year and a half as a  Reward while I very lazily finished my CCNP in the sense that its an FPS with an inventory system and spells, its a *-shock game, but wow it suuuuuuuuuuucks
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Dec 23, 2023 21:11
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I played BioShock after playing the original Nier and man. The side by side of those stories and gameplay was jarring.
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if i found FF tactics too talky and a bit too unforgiving, would i like tactics advance or the third one?
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roomtone posted:if i found FF tactics too talky and a bit too unforgiving, would i like tactics advance or the third one? Tactics advance is a little easier and a little less talky, so maybe
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FFTA plays totally fine but god drat if isekai isn’t the worst story type ever. If it’s not low quality wish fulfillment, then it’s a way to bog down a fantasy story by making it all about getting out of fantasy land.
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Dec 23, 2023 22:45
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limp_cheese posted:Whether or not that's true it's clear the actors were all having a blast making it. I was joking, c&c games have terrible plots. But yeah I was thinking of that precise moment. Tim Curry's greatest role. It's so stupid and he chews that line up and spits it out. Totally worth the price of admission. Game is pretty good too ya know.
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Dec 23, 2023 22:46
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emSparkly posted:FFTA plays totally fine but god drat if isekai isn’t the worst story type ever. If it’s not low quality wish fulfillment, then it’s a way to bog down a fantasy story by making it all about getting out of fantasy land. how dare they bog down some generic af fantasy story by actually making it interesting
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Dec 23, 2023 22:49
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fridge corn posted:how dare they bog down some generic af fantasy story by actually making it interesting I’d rather an actually interesting fantasy story instead of Marche wrecking a plane of reality so that his friend has to go back to being wheelchair bound.
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Dec 23, 2023 22:51
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emSparkly posted:I’d rather an actually interesting fantasy story instead of Marche wrecking a plane of reality so that his friend has to go back to being wheelchair bound. Give me an example of an interesting fantasy story
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Dec 23, 2023 22:52
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I'm an idiot so I disliked FFTA because I was too dumb to figure out the buttons on the dumbass GBA that didn't have enough drat buttons and thought FFTA2 was way better because it had more buttons. I wish I were joking. There may be a hint of annoyance that it isn't just the FFT system but a sequel or the judges thing but nah, that was all fine, it was the buttons that did it for me.
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emSparkly posted:I’d rather an actually interesting fantasy story instead of Marche wrecking a plane of reality so that his friend has to go back to being wheelchair bound. That was his brother he was putting back in a wheel chair and he was trying to say that he, Marche, also suffered because all of the attention and benefits went to his brother and he had to give up things like ?? And ??? For his brother's benefit. Also the snowball fight in the beginning has rocks in the snowball and that's some seasonally appropriate violence so I don't know what to tell you. FFTA is a masterclass in villain design.
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Escaping to a fantasy world where you can walk is bad, says someone who is also going to force a kid to go back with his drunken abusive father.
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Cosmik Debris posted:I was joking, c&c games have terrible plots. But yeah I was thinking of that precise moment. Tim Curry's greatest role. It's so stupid and he chews that line up and spits it out. Totally worth the price of admission. I thought the game was ok but I didn't like the upgraded graphics. The explosions look terrible to me because of how bright they are and that they seem to darken everything around them. The water physica are great but the water is so sensitive it also becomes a jumbled visual mess that makes it hard to tell what's going on. I also wasn't a fan of every unit having an active ability. Made it too micro intensive when C and C is more about macro.
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fridge corn posted:Give me an example of an interesting fantasy story they should be on a quest to throw some kind of personal jewelry item into a volcano imo
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The really hosed up part about Marche's actions in FFTA wasn't even dragging his brother back to reality, but the fact that the game made it pretty clear that all the characters in the "fantasy" land they're in are actually sentient, not just a figment of the brothers' imagination or something. Near the end I remember one of them expressing anxiety over the prospect of oblivion and Marche is just like "welp, see ya!"
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Dec 24, 2023 00:04
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Right but all the people in St Ivalice were turned into bunny girls and lizard men and zombies against their will. So what right do these people have to live over those other people?
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At this point I don't know if the FFTA revisionists are trolling or just completely braindead.
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I loathe isekai. But damned if I don’t respect it for finally killing the trope in fantasy stories of “No you should leave all your new friends and spiritually fulfilling life behind and be a good little capitalist peasant working minimum wage at McDonald’s.”
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galagazombie posted:I loathe isekai. But damned if I don’t respect it for finally killing the trope in fantasy stories of “No you should leave all your new friends and spiritually fulfilling life behind and be a good little capitalist peasant working minimum wage at McDonald’s.” quote:Foiled by a hero when he’s inches away from conquering the world, the devil finds himself in modern-day Tokyo. With no real-world skills to speak of, the devil is forced to make ends meet flipping burgers at a fast food joint! To stall any further plans of world domination, the hero tracks the devil’s trail and takes on the lowly tasks of a telemarketer. I guess there's enough fast food jobs that a peasant can have one too. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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dr_rat posted:Just going to put out there, there are far, far more RPG's with terrible plots than great ones. I'm going back to try and play FF games because I haven't finished/played them all and I have to say, a lot of them are really bad
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if a video game story supports the gameplay and makes it more interesting and the situations more compelling then its good. Everything you do in a video game is part of the story, not jsut the cutscenes and dialogue. If you're killing zombies or you're killing demons, they can be very different experiences even if the monsters do the exact same thing. Its like how 50 Cent Blood on the Sand is more fun because you're 50 Cent trying to recover a diamond skull compared to if you were just a military guy.
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