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I saw some apocalyptic headlines about the Chinese f2p rules but they all seem pretty sensible. Someone sent me a bbc article that was concern trolling about the plight of small studios forced to redesign their games but f2p whale chasing always requires big marketing money anyway doesn’t it?
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 14:23 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 09:47 |
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the poor small studios manipulating endorphin receptors to leech money from the most exploited demographic of all: gamers.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 14:28 |
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FuzzySlippers posted:I saw some apocalyptic headlines about the Chinese f2p rules but they all seem pretty sensible. Someone sent me a bbc article that was concern trolling about the plight of small studios forced to redesign their games but f2p whale chasing always requires big marketing money anyway doesn’t it? Yeah it's always like this. Twocent is doing spooky orientalism to our children! Xi' tyranny is putting small studios out of business. Leading neo nazi Bannon is meeting with Chinese oligarchs! Freedom for Jimmy Lai!
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 14:47 |
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Nope. Speaking of video games, Workers and Resources helped me understand this post.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 14:53 |
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FuzzySlippers posted:I saw some apocalyptic headlines about the Chinese f2p rules but they all seem pretty sensible. Someone sent me a bbc article that was concern trolling about the plight of small studios forced to redesign their games but f2p whale chasing always requires big marketing money anyway doesn’t it? i mean it probably will put some small game studios out of business. who cares i know a guy who founded a small game studio in china with probably about 30-50 employees. they’re not a big studio you’ve heard of or anything. he told me their business strategy was putting out these f2p games with loot box monetization and the way it works is, they pump out tons of these games and most of them fail but every once and a while they get a game that lands a ridiculous whale that spends literally hundreds of thousands of dollars on it what im trying to say is those 30-50 people can figure out a real business strategy or they can get real jobs
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 15:15 |
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what if you developed a game, and you sold whole copies of it, for profit
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 15:27 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:what if you developed a game, and you sold whole copies of it, for profit
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 15:31 |
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fart simpson posted:what im trying to say is those 30-50 people can figure out a real business strategy or they can get real jobs 30-50 f2p hogs
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 15:40 |
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super interesting, ty
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 17:53 |
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Thanks guys, glad to put the little I got to learn of political economy at school into benefitstephenthinkpad posted:I just want to point out higher computational power is not going to give better accuracy to calculate the national output, because 1 the west pretend China's gdp number is fake and only look at the power consumption and PMI numbers; and 2 the US is getting and better and better at faking the domestic economic numbers. Look, all the economic recovery numbers look good, except the egg price is twice as last year. Ah, I mean in a totally different sense than that, it's the economic calculation and planning problem; essentially, what it means is that "economy" is a computational problem and it is mathematically proven so by Oskar Lange, one of the Polish Marxists. Like, by statistically accounting the material economic activity, you gain more and more price inference as that ability becomes more and more developed. It's just not national input and output; it' is to gain more means to get close and eventually arrive to track all things in Marxist value. I used the example to build a house by how much material was produced to build a single house, right? So we take further than that: how much material did it take to produce every single unit of material used to produce that house? But those material costs are not just directly related to production, there are logistics too. What did it cost to transport every single unit of material? Here we run into one of the difficulties of MPS, which was how to factor logistics into the productive activity, for example. The thing to remember here is that a socialist planned economy has as one of its major goals the determination of prices. There's no open market to take the prices from. Since this is scientific socialism, the whole method to do so becomes an imperative, because that's the big signal the entire economy will be running on. Statistical computing is how you process the many different variables involved with one economic activity to see how it is doing, then the planners check that activity in comparison with the other, etc. The better they do, the economy develops further, which means more activity (new goods, new factories, new techniques, etc) which then means more information. As more information is able to be handled by aggregation, something rather magical happens - better inferences appear, estimations are more precise, there are better ways of planning. The social average of labor power value per hour, the grail of scientific planning, inches closer. That is why there were talks of "timetables for communism" in the late 50s - things were developing, problems were being figured out, methodologies conceptualized etc. Then loving khruschev and his whole group fumbled the gently caress out of it. ANYWAY
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 18:30 |
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Also, every since the EU regulations on lootboxes, the triple AAA industry has been slowly moving away from them. Battle passes are basically the uneasy compromise between studios and players and likely the only effect this will have on them is forcing to studios to put all of the cosmetics associated with them in the store rather than vanishing them to FOMO. What these regulations will do is obliterate the mobile game industry and good loving riddance.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 19:02 |
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President Yoon Suk Yeol and the girl group NewJeans have been selected as two of the 71 Most Stylish People of 2023 by The New York Times, Yonhap News reported on the 7th. The New York Times commented on this year’s selection: “While some of the chosen individuals may not be public figures, all of the selected subjects have sparked conversations about what they wear, how they live, and how they express themselves.” According to the report, The New York Times selected President Yoon as one of the Most Stylish People of 2023 on the 6th (local time) and posted a photo of him singing “American Pie” at the White House during his visit to the U.S. in April. The New York Times explained the background of selecting President Yoon, “His flawless performance of ‘American Pie’ at the White House rivaled ‘American Idol.'” President Yoon made headlines during his visit to the U.S. in April by singing Don McLean’s “American Pie” at a state dinner at the White House. The New York Times also selected the girl group NewJeans as another Korean figure among the most stylish people of the year. The New York Times explained the background of selecting NewJeans, “The members of NewJeans, wearing bunny ear hats, topped the Billboard charts with a sound inspired by late 1990s and early 2000s R&B. They also stood out in various ways, including being the first female K-pop singers to perform at Lollapalooza.”
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 22:08 |
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i only just found out that happened through korean media id never heard of it from the english language side i find it extremely distressing that there simply isnt anything the united states can say or do regarding south korea that south koreans will understand as an insult our media basically treats them as clowns cosplaying as a real country but every drat mention they get just makes them light up and say "look america senpai noticed us!!!"
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 22:13 |
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Some Guy TT posted:i only just found out that happened through korean media id never heard of it from the english language side have you asked them how does it feel to be an enviable position being an lapdog of a dying empire while their every industry is gonna get wiped by china in 5 years tops
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 22:32 |
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Palladium posted:have you asked them how does it feel to be an enviable position being an lapdog of a dying empire while their every industry is gonna get wiped by china in 5 years tops speaking of which: https://twitter.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1738434368367116660?t=SwNy6lBEpIcUV2z0dKWGUA&s=19 dunno about this strategy or this interpretation crepeface has issued a correction as of 02:56 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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Due to the failure of the Taiwanese opposite parties reaching an alliance, the DPP has a pretty high chance to win (with their pitiful 30-35% core vote bank). Beijing originally set the ECFA (cross strait mini trade agreement) review/renew announcement date one day before the Taiwanese election, kind of a last minute reminder to the Taiwanese voters. But since the blue camp and white camps have no chance of winning anyway, they kind of moved up the announcement a few weeks. The fact that Taiwanese Tsai regime has unfair trade policies against mainland agriculture products is a forgone conclusion, so it's just a matter of Beijing deciding what kind of counter trade penalty to deal against Taiwan exports. I think they target taiwanese chemical export this time. Also the Taiwanese presidential election has received minimal attention from both US and Japan compared to 4 years ago because the race is not close and the US is busy wiping asses for his partner in crime in the middle east region. No fake spy case from Australia either. The only anomaly is maybe in the SCS direction. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 02:45 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/jmzbeijing/status/1738067225511387453 my innovation-based economy of fart apps and gacha
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 02:48 |
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crepeface posted:dunno about this strategy or this interpy i was in taiwan last september having self-delivery points run by a Singapore SoE tells me everything i need to know about the TW economy that isnt TSMC i also met a provocative shitlib hobo too lol
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 02:55 |
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/jmzbeijing/status/1738067225511387453 scanning that guys tl and wondering why China lets him live in Beijing
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 03:21 |
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re: gachashit The regulations are sorely needed because every single new live service game on the CN market is trying to ape the Genshin/Mihoyo model of 50/50 pity where the guaranteed reward for pulling the gacha machine 80 times only has a 50% chance of being the unit you want, and top it off they've also integrated it weapon/gear systems where to have a unit of your specific choice at 100% efficiency (not counting ascension systems) you need to do the above shenanigans twice. Which means saving 160/320 pulls worth of currency...which can line up having to do weeklies/dailies for months on end to save up for a single character, assuming you don't start swiping that credit card. Yeah. End of the day it sucks, and is getting worse. Not to say gambling/exploitative online games haven't been a problem, especially in China, but the success of Genshin and Chinese games in general over the past few years and the eagerness of these companies to cash in on those strategies have really highlighted these shortcomings. It doesn't really help that a lot of the newer releases by established studios over the past year have shown net increases in exploitative mechanics in an extremely obvious manners. For instance, Girls Frontine, one of the earliest gachas, did not explicitly tie progression to the gacha, said gacha was done purely through easily available resources, and the main form of expenditure was buying skins. In its long awaited 3D sequel that released just two days ago, it actively uses the aforementioned Mihoyo-style gacha mechanics. Go loving figure. As someone who plays way too many of those games (played 12-15, currently mainlining 4) honestly this has been a long time running. A lot of the appeal of these games comes from the roster-building, long-form storytelling and gameplay that happens while playing the game over months or years, with gacha often seen as a necessary evil to keep them going, but over time said gacha systems have become an irritating metasized cancer on the rest of the game itself. Character customization becoming increasingly limited by virtue of tying players to time sinks and pulls, gameplay depth limited via trying to capture as wide a net as possible, storytelling opportunities weakened by the need to focus on selling the character as much as possible, the whole shebang and all that. Whatever regulations that happen; either via purging gacha from live service games altogether, or forcing the reduction of the amount of time players have to spend on a game on a daily basis, is all honestly welcome. Whales will always be around anyways. Iriscoral has issued a correction as of 03:42 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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1stGear posted:the triple AAA industry The AAAAAAAAA industry is actually a pretty good name for how I feel about these studios lately.
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Votskomit posted:The
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 04:16 |
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ban all gacha send the devs to the countryside
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 04:18 |
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Btw, the KMT and the DPP are neck to neck in some polling (if you look at the Chinese language page in wikipedia) even with the NPP still in the race. It very well may be that the KMT may "brute force it" and expect NPP voters to cross over the last minute. I assume that Beijing is just putting everyone on notice at this point.
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 04:31 |
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Some Guy TT posted:President Yoon Suk Yeol and the girl group NewJeans have been selected as two of the 71 Most Stylish People of 2023 by The New York Times, Yonhap News reported on the 7th. I thought this was going to reference his insane pants from his latest British visit or something. People wondered if he had put them on backwards. Need to find the article about that.
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Ardennes posted:Btw, the KMT and the DPP are neck to neck in some polling (if you look at the Chinese language page in wikipedia) even with the NPP still in the race. It very well may be that the KMT may "brute force it" and expect NPP voters to cross over the last minute. DPP agri votebanks completely shocked the mainland will let ECFA expire and they have zero leverage over the matter since no one gives a gently caress about their very irreplaceable pineapples everyone else: lol
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 05:38 |
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https://english.news.cn/20231206/ceceffbd81034910a09d2876cc654ff5/c.htmlquote:english.news.cn new nuclear power plant in Shidaowan
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 06:19 |
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Danann posted:China owning fully independent intellectual property rights but-but-but muh stolen IPs
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 06:21 |
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Danann posted:https://english.news.cn/20231206/ceceffbd81034910a09d2876cc654ff5/c.html lol i just posted this in the biosphere collapse thread
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 06:37 |
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Palladium posted:DPP agri votebanks completely shocked the mainland will let ECFA expire and they have zero leverage over the matter since no one gives a gently caress about their very irreplaceable pineapples who wants non Hawaiian pineapples anyways
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 06:47 |
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FuzzySlippers posted:I saw some apocalyptic headlines about the Chinese f2p rules but they all seem pretty sensible. Someone sent me a bbc article that was concern trolling about the plight of small studios forced to redesign their games but f2p whale chasing always requires big marketing money anyway doesn’t it? letting adults gamble should be illegal and it’s insane that we allow it for children too (my opinion counts double because I’m a table games dealer what of it. better to be a hypocrite than be wrong)
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 21:15 |
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https://twitter.com/XisMoments/status/1738766037779362007 "i wish the farmers a happy life as sweet as sugarcane."
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/XisMoments/status/1738766037779362007
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eSports Chaebol posted:letting adults gamble should be illegal and it’s insane that we allow it for children too (my opinion counts double because I’m a table games dealer what of it. better to be a hypocrite than be wrong) Yeah, acceptance of mystery boxes are weird. Though I don't play f2p games or even any multiplayer games so I got no dog in this hunt, ban it all. For gambling in general it makes sense in a country like China banning it since they are trying to organize society into something reasonable. In a capitalist hellscape might as well let adults gamble, get fat, whatever. Find your peace where you can.
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# ? Dec 25, 2023 03:16 |
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A happy life but at what cost?
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# ? Dec 25, 2023 04:41 |
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Look at all these poor people cruelly deprived of lootboxes.
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# ? Dec 25, 2023 12:20 |
And they get to keep accessing the daily login rewards! This really is a double whammy from Xi.
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# ? Dec 25, 2023 16:04 |
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Xi to mandate at least 2 hours per week of playing Tony Hawk with your buddies on a stinky couch
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# ? Dec 25, 2023 20:22 |
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https://x.com/WSJ/status/1739658611800883701?s=20
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# ? May 27, 2024 09:47 |
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its not the chinese are getting better, its the burgerbrains are getting more havana'ed also they had unlimited operating freedom in HK and a significant local support in 2019, and still didn't made a dent there (and also permanently blew any future chances they had in HK) so WTF they think is gonna happen on the mainland Palladium has issued a correction as of 16:06 on Dec 26, 2023 |
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