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There Bias Two posted:That makes sense. Eating the worm probably kills you immediately, and she just goes on pretending to be you until she decides not to. It's heavily inferred there's at least some kind of hive-mind deal with the green eyes on that one page before the Tournament. We know they're still physically themselves, because her summoning is... messy.
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wondering which faygo flavor is closest to royalty
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's heavily inferred there's at least some kind of hive-mind deal with the green eyes on that one page before the Tournament. Gog-Agog is at the least some sort of distributed intelligence. It seems like her attention is at times focused on specific places and maybe a specific body more than others - it doesn't seem like everyone who has been wormed has an equal presence or power, for example. But there isn't any indication there is any specific or key worm, the entity is able to shift seamlessly between any worm and apparently either use the powers of a Key or inherent worm ability to rapidly generate more worms wherever some are. You'd have to murder every worm to gill Gog, and as soon as you started she'd be able to make and distribute more worms, so you have to outpace her. It seems like people who have just 'eaten the worm' get some sort of introductory link to the whole that gives them changes, maybe some power, maybe just euphoria, but aren't necessarily immediately consumed. I'm assuming that these guys are fully Gogged just because the speech text is green.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:09 |
Pyrus Malus posted:wondering which faygo flavor is closest to royalty This very question proves you will never achieve it
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:12 |
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The way I interpret it the original people have been straight up devoured and a pile of worms is imitating their form because Gog desperately wants to be human, and happy, but can't begin to understand how so she just tries to copy what it looks like from the outside. Keen for further insight into the cosmic worm mass!
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:28 |
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yeah i'm pretty sure that once someone eats the worm then that person is gone, all that's left is gog-agog acting as them. all the demiurges have some kind of nasty existential irony and that's hers - she's a consummate entertainer who spends all her time and energy imitating humanity (her "carousel passions" as jagganoth calls them) but she's only capable of relating to herself
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 02:34 |
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Pyrus Malus posted:wondering which faygo flavor is closest to royalty Royalty is a continuous whooping motion.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 04:15 |
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Trying to do some quick napkin math here and, just wondering, how many demons does Gog-Agog count as?
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 04:31 |
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Pyrus Malus posted:wondering which faygo flavor is closest to royalty
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Oxxidation posted:smash smash Smash Smash eat the worm
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 04:46 |
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oobey posted:Trying to do some quick napkin math here and, just wondering, how many demons does Gog-Agog count as? None. She's just worms
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 05:56 |
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Because some people seem open to the idea of eating it, I'd guess eating the worm just slowly subsumes yourself into the hivemind. If Gog-Agog devours them from inside out, the worm-eater would probably have a sudden personality change that would raise suspicions with everyone they know. There has to be some of the original self in control of the body, an insane worm hivemind clown probably doesn't have the patience to pilot every covert worm-agent as a regular person.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 11:14 |
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Gog totally pronounced that as Revue-y didnt she
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MikeJF posted:Yisun doesn't even know what truth is. Consider the full name of our protagonist
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nimby posted:There has to be some of the original self in control of the body, an insane worm hivemind clown probably doesn't have the patience to pilot every covert worm-agent as a regular person. She says directly that if you eat the worm you become her. And there doesn't seem to be any evidence to the contrary in the comic to suggest that she was lying. At least not that we've seen so far? So it seems fair to take that at face value and assume all these people are just Gog. She's always playing some role or another, why not play them all. Though if we were to get any info to elaborate or contradict this now will probably be the time for sure. JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Dec 23, 2023 |
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JuniperCake posted:She says directly that if you eat the worm you become her. And there doesn't seem to be any evidence to the contrary in the comic to suggest that she was lying. At least not that we've seen so far? So it seems fair to take that at face value and assume all these people are just Gog. She's always playing some role or another, why not play them all. it think the effect is less you become her and she just eats you from the inside out and wears you like a cheap suit
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 15:51 |
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We've seen repeatedly that the various Demiurges have been exactly as they are presented. Salami Dave really was the greatest punch an to ever exist Jagganoth is literally invulnerable. The Demiurges have been so far beyond consequences for so long that they don't feel a need to dissemble. Until I see evidence to the contrary, when a demiurge states that they can do something or that they are something, I'll just take it as a statement of fact, and that includes 'oops all worms!' with regard to Gog Agog.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 16:35 |
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Just in case anyone doesn't remember exactly how plainly Your Pal Gog-Agog states this:
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 16:43 |
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the alt text is literally telling the reader this is kayfabe
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 16:55 |
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Tenebrais posted:"There's no better time for parties than the end of the world. We throw one every time!" is one of those lines that just fucks I assume things have not gone well, generally, for the seventh of creation under gog's dominion
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Mr. Lobe posted:I assume things have not gone well, generally, for the seventh of creation under gog's dominion You can fit a lot of worms in 111,111 universes.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 17:13 |
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Gog Agog is quite literally the Leviathan.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 17:23 |
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Mr. Lobe posted:I assume things have not gone well, generally, for the seventh of creation under gog's dominion I hear the people there all feel good, satisfied, pretty, and happy
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FuturePastNow posted:I hear the people there all feel good, satisfied, pretty, and happy That's the part Gog lies about. There are no people on her worlds, just her.
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A.o.D. posted:That's the part Gog lies about. There are no people on her worlds, just her. FuturePastNow posted:I hear the person there feels good, satisfied, pretty, and happy
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 18:22 |
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The fact that they're all Gog-agog is how you know it's a lie; she is definitely not happy.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 18:24 |
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People don’t throw giant parties for themselves when they’re happy.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:The fact that they're all Gog-agog is how you know it's a lie; she is definitely not happy. I think Allison's just going to make friends with her
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 18:35 |
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I just noticed something: We throw one "every time". That suggests Gog knows about the loop. (And also never tries to stop it.) Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Dec 23, 2023 |
# ? Dec 23, 2023 19:24 |
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you think gog smokes weed?
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 19:27 |
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I just noticed something: Or she's just been there for a lot of individual worlds ending.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 19:29 |
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MikeJF posted:Or she's just been there for a lot of individual worlds ending. "The world" has often been used colloquially to mean "all existence" in this comic, and she says "the world" and not "a world", so I'm inclined to think it's that.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 19:31 |
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I just noticed something: I mean we know Jag is aware of the loop, I suppose it only makes sense that at least one of the other ones could figure it out.
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 19:42 |
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Presumably Jadis is aware of the loops too, since complete awareness is her entire thing. Gog's "I'll be fine" had me wondering for a long while if she hadn't survived the loops in some form, looks like this'll be adressed soon.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I just noticed something: Or a lot of events have happened that purported themselves to be "the end of the world" Remember when she bailed? "I'LL be fine." Also, oldest(by a large, large margin)
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# ? Dec 23, 2023 23:59 |
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girl dick energy posted:People don’t throw giant parties for themselves when they’re happy. Gamemaster Anthony is one of the happiest people alive.
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 06:56 |
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Mr. Lobe posted:I assume things have not gone well, generally, for the seventh of creation under gog's dominion This have gone relatively well for the vast majority of those who live in that seventh of creation, although to be fair, the vast majority of the those who live in that seventh of creation are Gog Agog. A.o.D. posted:That's the part Gog lies about. There are no people on her worlds, just her. Gog Agog is a lot of people and is on her worlds, thherefore she's not lying. Tuxedo Catfish posted:The fact that they're all Gog-agog is how you know it's a lie; she is definitely not happy. Look, she's acting happy, that means she is happy. That's how it works, right?
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 07:23 |
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she contains multitudes
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 07:47 |
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I’d say she pretends multitudes. There’s no evidence of actual disagreement or individuality between Gogs, and her whole thing is jealousy and envy and wanting people to like her, so if individual Gogs had, y’know, individuality, she’d be constantly doing internal Gogwar like a giant, upsetting Tom and Jerry cartoon. Which is also the best way for Allison to handle her imo, cause her to become multiple people for real somehow.
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# ? Dec 24, 2023 07:53 |
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There is some evidence of apparent Gog disagreement: The hover text here is: Gog Agog, Gog Agog, and Gog Agog are pretty impressed, as you can see, however Gog Agog has seen this act before during the war and is not amused Of course, the implication on the current page is that things like this are just kayfabe, so the apparent disagreement may not be real.
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