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Ornery and Hornery posted:https://x.com/benbbaldwin/status/1737915640197808278?s=46&t=2HFO6SZKjNqr-CFyNaA8pQ lol at the Tyson Bagent Truthers
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R.D. Mangles posted:lol at the Tyson Bagent Truthers The gap between Bryce and Andy is bigger than the gap between Herbie and Stick. That’s… that’s just wild
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Black Sunshine posted:Purdy is the new Jimmy G but not handsome no man ive been over this he's literally Matt Ryan
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Ornery and Hornery posted:The gap between Bryce and Andy is bigger than the gap between Herbie and Stick. I would love to see the alternate reality where Andy Dalton starts the whole year, and how he would have stacked up. Obviously the Seahawks D isn't anything amazing, but they're obviously good enough to beat teams like Philadelphia.
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epic bacon posted:he's 1st in YPA, 1st in passer rating, 1st in touchdowns, 2nd in passing yards, 1st in 1st down %, 1st in 20+ yard passes, 1st in 40+ yard passes... Dumb argument by nerds that don't watch football. Bismack Billabongo posted:If you really feel like being tedious rules lawyer purdy is indisputably the most valuable player because he is providing at a minimum top ten qb production for pennies and giving the team more flexibility to build around him. The ultimate rookie qb window Most Market Valuable Player. Technically correct, the best kind of correct. Doltos posted:The MVP is Raheem Mostert Yes, but Alec Ingold is co-MVP.
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Black Sunshine posted:Purdy is the new Jimmy G but not handsome In Jimmy G's best year he was barely top half in QB rating. Usually he was much worse. On the other hand, he is extremely handsome, so it really is a wash
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Black Sunshine posted:Purdy is the new Jimmy G but not handsome No. Niners playing with Jimmy at QB was like boxing with one hand tied behind their back. Even with tons of talent elsewhere on the roster it always felt like they needed a minor miracle to beat quality teams.
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predicto posted:In Jimmy G's best year he was barely top half in QB rating. Usually he was much worse. In his two best years, Jimmy G was absolutely in the top half. Outside of those two years, though, you're right. Mostly due to being constantly injured, but also because he was limited in what he could do. 
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ozymandius1024 posted:I would love to see the alternate reality where Andy Dalton starts the whole year, and how he would have stacked up. Dalton would absolutely have 2-3 more wins for Carolina this year.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Dalton would absolutely have 2-3 more wins for Carolina this year. I think so too. The cast is obviously not good at all, but I want to know just *how* terrible, and how much of it falls at Bryce's tiny little feet. We will see either way though, when Bryce gets a completely new coaching staff and likely a different supporting cast next season. ozymandius1024 fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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ozymandius1024 posted:I think so too. The cast is obviously not good at all, but I want to know just *how* terrible, and how much of it falls at Bryce's tiny little feet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=felExdvBAjM There's been a definite improvement in terms of the scheme, protection and execution in the last game. Yeah Atlanta sucks on defense, but still - you play who you play and it still jumps off the page there's some deficiencies on the roster but there's still been better utilisation of the guys we do have. The change back to a power gap scheme up front has been night and day jarring. It's insanity Reich stuck to his zonal guns for as long as he did. Just absolute insanity.
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BlindSite posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=felExdvBAjM Oh nice, I've been waiting for a more recent JT video on Bryce!
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Yeah he avoids making them after really poo poo weeks so we haven't seen a Bryce video for a while.
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Coldforge posted:In his two best years, Jimmy G was absolutely in the top half. 
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That smile alone won half his games.
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Vox Nihili posted:No. Niners playing with Jimmy at QB was like boxing with one hand tied behind their back. Even with tons of talent elsewhere on the roster it always felt like they needed a minor miracle to beat quality teams. There are so many plays Brock Pursy makes where he gets out of structure where Handsome James would have crumpled to the turf in a ball
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The biggest difference is the plays Purdy doesn't make. Like throwing a dumbass pick into double coverage with the lead and three minutes left in the game.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The biggest difference is the plays Purdy doesn't make. Like throwing a dumbass pick into double coverage with the lead and three minutes left in the game. This. Also, scheme or otherwise, his accuracy, reads, poise in the pocket and overall touch are hard to argue with when you watch him play. One can argue it's entirely Shanahan related and maybe it is, but football is the ultimate team sport and he's playing his role in it at the highest level.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The biggest difference is the plays Purdy doesn't make. Like throwing a dumbass pick into double coverage with the lead and three minutes left in the game. The things Jimmy was never able to do: stay healthy, throw a deep pass to the boundary, see an inside linebacker.
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Coldforge posted:throw a deep pass to the boundary, Purdy is a huge upgrade for both these reasons. He can hit deep throws outside the numbers, and his ability to read key defensive players is extremely high. The Niners' passing game almost immediately became much more aggressive down the field when Purdy took over. He's also better at off-schedule plays where he has to escape a collapsing pocket than most QBs. Here's some highlights. You'll have to watch a more detailed breakdown for examples of how he reads defenses, but he does so at a very high level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgKdoVKLapM
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I still can’t believe people think Purdy isn’t an elite quarterback. Some of y’all are never going to learn.
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I can only assume the people who think Garappolo is as good never watched a 49er game. I still have ptsd every time the ball travels more than 15 yards in the air that the camera will pan to 3 DBs waiting for it or it being out of range of the receiver by 5 yards.
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Kirios posted:I still can’t believe people think Purdy isn’t an elite quarterback. What do you mean by elite? Would you swap Stroud for Purdy straight up?
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Stroud has the potential to be a top 2-4ish QB. I would not swap him for Purdy if I were the Texans, but that's no knock on brock.
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"Better than Jimmy Garoppolo" is not the benchmark you think it is in fact, Jimmy Garoppolo's continued stature as an Assumed Starting Quarterback is thanks almost entirely to the same forces that are making Brock Purdy look like an elite QB
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I would not trade Purdy for Stroud because Stroud is not able to play this week.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:https://x.com/benbbaldwin/status/1737915640197808278?s=46&t=2HFO6SZKjNqr-CFyNaA8pQ Dang wonder how Browning will look after today's game Ben Baldwin is rear end
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Brock Purdy was almost undrafted, which makes him that much more impressive.
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Edward Mass posted:Brock Purdy was almost undrafted, which makes him that much more impressive. The story I heard is that Lynch and Shanahan were talking about bringing him on as a UDFA, and one of them asked if they were sure they could get him to come try out. So they just said fuckit and drafted him. I'm going to say that however they decided to pick him up, this makes up for the Trey Lance misstep.
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Edward Mass posted:Brock Purdy was almost undrafted, which makes him that much more impressive. Literally Mr. Irrelevant. Already the most consequential Mr. Irrelevant all time. More impressive than undrafted in my opinion.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Literally Mr. Irrelevant. Already the most consequential Mr. Irrelevant all time. More impressive than undrafted in my opinion. UDFA are by nature gonna be a way larger sample to hit on these long stretch scratchers, Purdy being Mr Irrelevant is just kinda a fun long shot. Not to take anything away from him—he’s great, but his story and Kurt Warner’s are both in the same realm of Cool
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Mr. Irrelevant isn't the one reason people keep doubting Purdy—it's also his name. "Brock Purdy" isn't a proper MVP quarterback name. It doesn't even sound like the type of name you give to a child on purpose.
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mllaneza posted:Purdy is a huge upgrade for both these reasons. He can hit deep throws outside the numbers, and his ability to read key defensive players is extremely high. The Niners' passing game almost immediately became much more aggressive down the field when Purdy took over. He's also better at off-schedule plays where he has to escape a collapsing pocket than most QBs. this short video contains at least 5 things I've never EVER seen Jimmy G do. Thanks for this Edward Mass posted:Brock Purdy was almost undrafted, which makes him that much more impressive. If he keeps it up and wins a Super Bowl or two, he's going to get the Hollywood treatment I'd bet. Hell, the movie already has a title.
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fsif posted:Mr. Irrelevant isn't the one reason people keep doubting Purdy—it's also his name. "Brock Purdy" isn't a proper MVP quarterback name. It doesn't even sound like the type of name you give to a child on purpose. "Brock Purdy" is a name fitting for the Kenneth Parcell type of character from 30 Rock
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fsif posted:Mr. Irrelevant isn't the one reason people keep doubting Purdy—it's also his name. "Brock Purdy" isn't a proper MVP quarterback name. It doesn't even sound like the type of name you give to a child on purpose. What if I told you he has a brother currently playing college ball who goes by Chubba?
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fsif posted:Mr. Irrelevant isn't the one reason people keep doubting Purdy—it's also his name. "Brock Purdy" isn't a proper MVP quarterback name. It doesn't even sound like the type of name you give to a child on purpose. “Mahomes” isn’t exactly a classic Football Guy name either but you get used to it Bortles had no chance, though
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