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Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Cease to Hope posted:

this is almost certainly referring to ebay miniature rescue, which has these super annoying clickbait thumbnails but is actually really sweet and sentimental about buying people's old models and trying to restore them in a way that reflects the original owner's intentions. it has a lot of good advice on cleaning up and repairing old, incomplete, or badly converted models. the general vibe is, "this is a cool idea, let's see if we can make it a reality."

Love the concept, it’s what I’ve done a few times for fun- subscribed!

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Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte
I really enjoy this lot of painters:

Louise Sugden (Rogue Hobbies) - she's fun, extremely creative and comes from an art background. Colour-o-rama

Ninjon - unfortunately he has to game the algorithm but once you move past that he's great. Fun painting style.

MSPaints - Insanely great. Entertaining, down to earth, wildly good video work. Caters for differently abled hobbyists.

Anvil of Doom miniatures - dedicated to painting old hammer in the old hammer style. Also an incredibly skilled illustrator

52 Miniatures - the best video work on any hobby YouTube, its mental. He has a wonderful understanding of colour and value. Highly recommended.

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

poop chute posted:

I loved the episode about finecast that amounted to "finecast was a mistake from the first second"

The episode with the former head of GW hobby tool design was amazing. Incredibly interesting insight into the but why of a lot of GW products

tl;dw people in this thread aren't GWs main customers, moms buying for their kids are GWs main customer

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

Springfield Fatts posted:

You're doing edge highlights ALL WRONG!!

I bought THIS off ebay for HOW MUCH?!?!

ORK sucked me OFF?!?!

If I wanted to try Warcry is the free pdf enough to get me through or is a lot of the content locked behind the box sets?

To "TRY"? Yes. Otherwise, its locked away.

poop chute
Nov 16, 2023

by Athanatos

Geisladisk posted:

The episode with the former head of GW hobby tool design was amazing. Incredibly interesting insight into the but why of a lot of GW products

tl;dw people in this thread aren't GWs main customers, moms buying for their kids are GWs main customer

Which one was the hobby tool one? I’ve got a long drive ahead of me and it would be something to listen to.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

poop chute posted:

Which one was the hobby tool one? I’ve got a long drive ahead of me and it would be something to listen to.

There's a lot of that in the finecast episode from last month.

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

poop chute posted:

Which one was the hobby tool one? I’ve got a long drive ahead of me and it would be something to listen to.

https://youtu.be/-63A7cDkOm8?si=xktkBw2nMxugh-o0

Same guy comes back in a later episode, as mentioned, and talks about the why of Finecast as well

GhastlyBizness
Sep 10, 2016

seashells by the sea shorpheus

poop chute posted:

Which one was the hobby tool one? I’ve got a long drive ahead of me and it would be something to listen to.

There’s two or three episodes about that, they’re the ones with Tom Hibberd. One was about contrast paints but touched on the hobby tools.

What I like about those eps and Painting Phase in general is how clear eyed they are about GW. Not rah-rah evil empire but just appropriately jaded from working there for ages. They’re good at making the distinction between “this seems dumb if you’re a pissy dakka poster but there’s logical business reasons for it” and “this was genuinely badly managed and internally we could tell at the time”, with stuff like Finecast and Cursed City fitting into the latter.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Well Finecast is in the title but most of the episode is spent complaining about doing product design for Games Workshop and retail profit margins.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

I pretty much agree with all the painting YouTube channels that have been listed here, and I'd add Sorastro to that list as well. A long while back I was painting up some zombies, and his Zombicide Black Plague videos gave me some much-needed inspiration in terms of getting them done quickly.

And The Painting Phase video where Dave from MS Paints stops by for a chat is amazing, because Dave just gives no fucks and they all just keep breaking down into laughter. He's also one of the few YouTubers (of any genre, not just mini painting) who does comedy bits in his vids that are actually funny. Here it is for anyone who hasn't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ96z69Qrak

Kylaer
Aug 4, 2007
I'm SURE walking around in a respirator at all times in an (even more) OPEN BIDENing society is definitely not a recipe for disaster and anyone that's not cool with getting harassed by CHUDs are cave dwellers. I've got good brain!

HidaO-Win posted:



Working away at LI infantry. Got another 7 groups like this to do, so I'm doing a vehicle for a break next.

Very nice, this kind of paint job I think is close to being achievable with my current skills and it gives me hope. What paint do you use for the tiny plasma guns?

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

Seconding MS Paints as well. The videography is great, and he's charming. His videos aren't tutorials, just him doing a project and talking it through.

Most of his stuff isn't Warhammer related but almost every one of his titles is, because if you don't put Warhammer in the title of a mini video nobody watches it.

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
Expanding my Legionary team with an Icon Bearer-

GhastlyBizness
Sep 10, 2016

seashells by the sea shorpheus
This dude’s really cool, love to see an icon you could beat someone to death with. I recognise the stormcast shield but what’s the one with the embossed snakes?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Vulpes Vulpes posted:

Expanding my Legionary team with an Icon Bearer-



My one comment would be to chip the alpha legion symbol a little (sponge chip with leadbelcher) or make it look like it's a glowing rune of some kind.

As it stands it doesn't gel in with an otherwise grungy paint scheme as it is far too clean.

HidaO-Win
Jun 5, 2013

"And I did it, because I was a man who had exhausted reason and thus turned to magicks"

Kylaer posted:

Very nice, this kind of paint job I think is close to being achievable with my current skills and it gives me hope. What paint do you use for the tiny plasma guns?

I'm powerful inexperienced, but they were doable with a fine brush, a magnifier and some time.

Paint used for the plasma gun was Contrast Kroxigor Scales

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"

GhastlyBizness posted:

This dude’s really cool, love to see an icon you could beat someone to death with. I recognise the stormcast shield but what’s the one with the embossed snakes?

It's a Warcry Splintered Fang shield, which is also where the scaled tabard is from.

Z the IVth posted:

My one comment would be to chip the alpha legion symbol a little (sponge chip with leadbelcher) or make it look like it's a glowing rune of some kind.

As it stands it doesn't gel in with an otherwise grungy paint scheme as it is far too clean.

That's a good thought, thanks!

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

IncredibleIgloo posted:

Warhipster is really good, has a great voice, most of the videos are about getting the best results using mostly contrast paints.

Another solid recommendation. What he does with Contrast paints is what GW should have been showing from the begining. Painting Phase have actually talked about how marketing screwed up by initially not letting them do exactly that, and insisting it be shown as a one and done product rather than an immensely useful tool in combination with other techniques. Warhipster nails how to paint in the traditional GW style while using Contrasts as part of the process. I do wish he'd varnish at the end to get a uniform finish though.

Sydney Bottocks posted:

I pretty much agree with all the painting YouTube channels that have been listed here, and I'd add Sorastro to that list as well. A long while back I was painting up some zombies, and his Zombicide Black Plague videos gave me some much-needed inspiration in terms of getting them done quickly.

And The Painting Phase video where Dave from MS Paints stops by for a chat is amazing, because Dave just gives no fucks and they all just keep breaking down into laughter. He's also one of the few YouTubers (of any genre, not just mini painting) who does comedy bits in his vids that are actually funny. Here it is for anyone who hasn't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ96z69Qrak

Can't believe I forgot to mention Dave. I didn't think I'd like MS Paints because comedy bits in hobby videos make my skin crawl (hello Miniac), but there's actual effort and craft in his so at worst they don't detract at all. His philosophy and attitude is genuinely inspiring, because he's trying to do as much as he can despite his disability, before he's unable. As someone who is also impaired I find it resonates a lot.
He also got me to build my first gunpla kit through his enthusiasm and willingness to make painting it into a project purely about enhancing the kit rather than treating it like a 40k mini.

Springfield Fatts
May 24, 2010
Pillbug
I agree he's a good dude but hard pass on the puppet poo poo. The biggest problem I have with him, and what's infected a lot of "high production" hobby youtube people now is the oversaturation of LEDs all over the model. If you're doing a tutorial I'd like to see what it actually looks like without a million purple and pink floodlights drowning out the end results, please. This isn't twitch, I need to know what your paintjob actually results in.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Springfield Fatts posted:

I agree he's a good dude but hard pass on the puppet poo poo. The biggest problem I have with him, and what's infected a lot of "high production" hobby youtube people now is the oversaturation of LEDs all over the model. If you're doing a tutorial I'd like to see what it actually looks like without a million purple and pink floodlights drowning out the end results, please. This isn't twitch, I need to know what your paintjob actually results in.

At this point, MS Paints isn't really a hobby tutorial channel anymore; it's basically a guy (and his wonderful puppets) doing his hobby vlog and documenting things in a fashion that clearly aims to entertain rather than educate. He's said several times that it actually pays him a pretty steady wage, so clearly he's found his YT niche and is doing pretty well with it.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
KT players seem quite unhappy with the new box, sold out relatively quickly, not as insanely fast as the last few, it was up for a few hours at least but the rulebook in it only references the new terrain set for its mission setups and that terrain set sold out in minutes, they probably made way less of it I guess. Since it doesn't have the core rulebook in it it's not a good starter at all and it doesn't bode well for any future boxes being more available when they come out either.

As for the actual teams/models, I guess they're cool if you like Eldar or Scouts but reading their abilities/options, they both seem a little boring imo. The Eldar one has probably the most complicated team that's ever been in KT in terms of choices, on paper at least they seem very powerful and they give you a lot of stuff if you mix it up a lot but you'd obviously have to buy other boxes to get some Howling Banshees or the other option and the Scout Marines only have a couple specialist options which are always the most interesting and they're pretty standard ones, heavy weapons guys, a sniper that's like the most bog standard sniper and then a particularly scouty scout. I guess you'd expect that from Scouts cause they're just a halfway between basic humans and Space Marines so it'd make sense they have elements of both mixed together. Either way neither

goodness
Jan 3, 2012

just keep swimming
Is Trovarion thread approved for painting videos? Havent seen any mention, but he has a really good recent video about doing white armor easily.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
He seems like he's salty over not being more popular and does the extremely clickbait kind of stuff everyone else does. He's good at painting but ehh id rather watch someone with more mirth like angel giraldez or Sergio calvo or Richard grey

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
Speaking of youtubers does zorpyzorp ever finish any of the giant terrain projects he starts? There's always that incredibly clickbait title and then it's 20 minutes of him cutting out a baseboard for his next giant project.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

thebardyspoon posted:

KT players seem quite unhappy with the new box, sold out relatively quickly, not as insanely fast as the last few, it was up for a few hours at least but the rulebook in it only references the new terrain set for its mission setups and that terrain set sold out in minutes, they probably made way less of it I guess. Since it doesn't have the core rulebook in it it's not a good starter at all and it doesn't bode well for any future boxes being more available when they come out either.

As for the actual teams/models, I guess they're cool if you like Eldar or Scouts but reading their abilities/options, they both seem a little boring imo. The Eldar one has probably the most complicated team that's ever been in KT in terms of choices, on paper at least they seem very powerful and they give you a lot of stuff if you mix it up a lot but you'd obviously have to buy other boxes to get some Howling Banshees or the other option and the Scout Marines only have a couple specialist options which are always the most interesting and they're pretty standard ones, heavy weapons guys, a sniper that's like the most bog standard sniper and then a particularly scouty scout. I guess you'd expect that from Scouts cause they're just a halfway between basic humans and Space Marines so it'd make sense they have elements of both mixed together. Either way neither

How many models does the eldar team have, they're 3 apl which makes them sound elite and from what I understand elite teams are in a tough spot right now against kasrkin and the 14 model vet guard team.

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice

thebardyspoon posted:

KT players seem quite unhappy with the new box, sold out relatively quickly, not as insanely fast as the last few, it was up for a few hours at least but the rulebook in it only references the new terrain set for its mission setups and that terrain set sold out in minutes, they probably made way less of it I guess. Since it doesn't have the core rulebook in it it's not a good starter at all and it doesn't bode well for any future boxes being more available when they come out either.

As for the actual teams/models, I guess they're cool if you like Eldar or Scouts but reading their abilities/options, they both seem a little boring imo. The Eldar one has probably the most complicated team that's ever been in KT in terms of choices, on paper at least they seem very powerful and they give you a lot of stuff if you mix it up a lot but you'd obviously have to buy other boxes to get some Howling Banshees or the other option and the Scout Marines only have a couple specialist options which are always the most interesting and they're pretty standard ones, heavy weapons guys, a sniper that's like the most bog standard sniper and then a particularly scouty scout. I guess you'd expect that from Scouts cause they're just a halfway between basic humans and Space Marines so it'd make sense they have elements of both mixed together. Either way neither

I ordered the box and I'm excited for both teams. I'm more of a painter rather than a player, though, and it's mostly just an opportunity to do the Aspect Warrior squad I've always wanted to build. The scouts can be buddies with the movie marine tactical squad that I built a long time ago.

My big complaint about the Blades Of Khaine kill team is that it requires Dire Avengers, who despite being one of my favourite aspects, is a fairly old kit that doesn't stand up brilliantly to modern ones in my opinion. I'm planning to try kitbashing Avenger helmets and weapons with some Voidscarred Corsairs.

Obviously, though, implicit in all this, is that I'm dropping a silly amount of money on this new modelling project :homebrew:

Sharkopath posted:

How many models does the eldar team have, they're 3 apl which makes them sound elite and from what I understand elite teams are in a tough spot right now against kasrkin and the 14 model vet guard team.

I think they have 8 models.

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

Squibsy posted:

My big complaint about the Blades Of Khaine kill team is that it requires Dire Avengers, who despite being one of my favourite aspects, is a fairly old kit that doesn't stand up brilliantly to modern ones in my opinion. I'm planning to try kitbashing Avenger helmets and weapons with some Voidscarred Corsairs.

I’ve never been an Eldar guy, so I’ve got no idea if they fit the aesthetic enough, but these Artel “not Eldar” look like a pretty decent alternative: https://artelw.com/28mm-scale-miniatures-c27134181

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice
Those are quite cool. I remember buying an Artel 'Space Elf' thing quite a while ago and the casting quality was excellent.

Also lol at 'Epitome of War.'

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

Z the IVth posted:

Speaking of youtubers does zorpyzorp ever finish any of the giant terrain projects he starts? There's always that incredibly clickbait title and then it's 20 minutes of him cutting out a baseboard for his next giant project.

I’ve wondered that.

Also, man if there was an award for most reused footage for a YouTuber, he’d win. Holy dang.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

Spanish Manlove posted:

He seems like he's salty over not being more popular and does the extremely clickbait kind of stuff everyone else does. He's good at painting but ehh id rather watch someone with more mirth like angel giraldez or Sergio calvo or Richard grey

That was the vibe I got from him as well, and my reaction was the same.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Squibsy posted:

I ordered the box and I'm excited for both teams. I'm more of a painter rather than a player, though, and it's mostly just an opportunity to do the Aspect Warrior squad I've always wanted to build. The scouts can be buddies with the movie marine tactical squad that I built a long time ago.

My big complaint about the Blades Of Khaine kill team is that it requires Dire Avengers, who despite being one of my favourite aspects, is a fairly old kit that doesn't stand up brilliantly to modern ones in my opinion. I'm planning to try kitbashing Avenger helmets and weapons with some Voidscarred Corsairs.

Obviously, though, implicit in all this, is that I'm dropping a silly amount of money on this new modelling project :homebrew:

I think they have 8 models.

Oh that's cool, 8 models with 24 apl sounds like they'd be in a good spot compared to corsairs 9 with 18.

Related aside, I feel a bit bad because I may have ruined killteam for a newish player by getting a corsair shredder to annihilate their vet guard spotter, sniper, and plasma gunner turn 1 activation 1 after they had a good time beating me the game before.

Tiny Chalupa
Feb 14, 2012

Safety Factor posted:

Army composition:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/12/18/old-world-almanack-mustering-the-grand-army-of-bretonnia/

So there's a bunch of interesting stuff in here:
  • Percentages are back
  • Allies! Mercenaries!
  • Lots of 0-1 choices, 1+ choices, 0-1 per 1000 points, etc.
  • Lords and heroes aren't separate categories anymore, but the more powerful models will be limited by composition rules. For example, a bretonnian army gets only one duke ever, but can cram as many paladins in as can fit in that 50% allotment.
  • Alternate lists (Armies of Infamy) will change up army composition. The examples here are an exiled border princes list with access to artillery and a crusade list with nothing but knights. I remember similar alternate lists from back in 6th edition and I'm really excited to see stuff like this return.
  • A couple more weapons get mentioned - morning stars are S+1 AP-1 in the first round of combat, great weapons are S+2 AP-2 and strike last
  • A couple of special rules too - Stubborn has been changed significantly. Instead of ignoring modifiers like before, it lets a unit automatically fall back in good order the first time they have to take a break test. Shieldwall is new and lets a unit give ground instead of falling back.
  • Monstrous mounts can alter their rider's toughness and wounds, but its attacks are separate. We kind of already knew this, but it's nice to see an example. A duke on a hippogryph will be rocking T5 and W7 and a disgusting amount of attacks.

The army composition stuff is really cool and I love that tweaked alternate armies are returning. Working allies into the army lists is another good option. I figured something like this was coming and I'll definitely be adding some dwarfs to my Empire army down the line. It'll be interesting to see what qualifies as mercenaries.

:dogcited:









I am so drat happy I still have armies!! 6th edition was, by far, my favorite edition and so much of this screams 6th to me.

I miss rank and file games and haven't played any since they killed off the old world. I refused to even look at Age of Sigmar until recently.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

thebardyspoon posted:

As for the actual teams/models, I guess they're cool if you like Eldar or Scouts but reading their abilities/options, they both seem a little boring imo. The Eldar one has probably the most complicated team that's ever been in KT in terms of choices, on paper at least they seem very powerful and they give you a lot of stuff if you mix it up a lot but you'd obviously have to buy other boxes to get some Howling Banshees or the other option and the Scout Marines only have a couple specialist options which are always the most interesting and they're pretty standard ones, heavy weapons guys, a sniper that's like the most bog standard sniper and then a particularly scouty scout. I guess you'd expect that from Scouts cause they're just a halfway between basic humans and Space Marines so it'd make sense they have elements of both mixed together. Either way neither

Scouts are a fascinating board control team, and they are really all about the sgt and the initial setup. You want to shape the board early on with your excellent deployment tools, then threaten to turn any of your guys into full-fledged marines with the ability to make anyone a 3 APL double-shooter/fighter. Plus, at the top of the turn, anyone not within 6" of an enemy can flip to conceal and dash for free with that very tasty Stealth Relocation strat ploy.

What do they do against elites, though? These guys are like junior Phobos, and they have the typical bolter-team problem that elites are going to get in against them. They have the fewest bodies of any non-elite team to punish that with counterattacks, too. What do these guys do about a Legionary Anointed or Cult Torment or Gellerpox Hulk that isn't just dying slowly?

I do think these guys have more to them than first glance. They have a shitload of movement tech and Astartes Shotguns are a real weapon. I just think they're going to be kind of capped by the fact that the versatile teams, like Hunter Clade and Commandos, are stronger all-around, and elite teams aren't gonna care about their better-than-average base stats often enough for it to matter. This guys seem like Farstalkers, another fair, well-rounded team that probably isn't going anywhere because of that fairness. If they're good, it's going to be because Stealth Relocation is a bonkers ploy as long as you can trigger it (but that 6" bubble to shut it off is huge).


Blades of Khaine are Void-Dancers with a bit more of a skew towards murdering tricky and swarm teams rather than elite teams. I don't think it's a good trade off. They're very fiddly, like Void-Dancers, but I don't think the sum total comes out to make a particularly powerful team, since their tools to prevent a counter-attack are fairly weak or situational. I think it's probably going to be more popular than the clowns, though. If you've not played against clowns before, you're about to find out how annoying 24APL with bonus out-of-sequence movement can be, but 8W on a 4+ save means you really only need a couple of good hits to put them down.

Contempt is an extremely funny tac ploy, though. Shut down rerolls after you see the roll, lol. Peak elf bullshit.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

If I missed the pre-order on the new kill team box, how long am I gonna be SOL for

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

StashAugustine posted:

If I missed the pre-order on the new kill team box, how long am I gonna be SOL for

I'd expect the individual kits around March / April

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

StashAugustine posted:

If I missed the pre-order on the new kill team box, how long am I gonna be SOL for

usually about two-three months. ktdash and wahapedia usually take about two-four weeks after the preorders get fulfilled, if you already have the models. this one is especially easy because the only new model that isn't a refresh of an old one is the grapple scout.

poop chute
Nov 16, 2023

by Athanatos

goodness posted:

Is Trovarion thread approved for painting videos? Havent seen any mention, but he has a really good recent video about doing white armor easily.

Every video of his I've watched has been a tutorial for doing something in his "grimdark" style, and while I appreciate that he's got his thing I need more than that if I'm going to watch more than once or twice.

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]
Cross-posting from the painting thread.

Stephenls posted:

I am reasonably happy with this heat discoloration I just did on the barrels of my Legions Imperialis contemptors. (Seraphim Sepia, Druchii Violet, Drakenhof Nightshade; nothing novel about the technique.)






They're not done; I still need seal them with satin varnish and do an oil wash, but they're coming along.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

IncredibleIgloo posted:

I assume this is because they don't want another Duncan Rhodes sort of situation?

Almost certainly. Games workshop is the company, not individuals and they don't want to be in a position where they've basically built a ready to go business for their staff when they leave.

One of the main reasons they stopped putting authors on army books etc was to stop the 'Matt Ward' effect. Same for models. Everything is now designed and written by the team.

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poop chute
Nov 16, 2023

by Athanatos
They have started showing the painting tutorial person again, at least.

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