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Yeah as much as I love Entryway and consider it likewise iconic (it gets referenced all over the place, Turbo Overkill being the most recent I've seem it homaged), I'd probably have to give the nod to Hangar. It's got a lot going on in a little bit of time/space.
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When I was a kid, I had the Doom II Strategy Guide and it had an interview with Romero in the back that I would read over and over (there was a section where he described what he thought Quake was going to be like), and I distinctly remember him saying that they redid E1M1 at the last minute because the original one sucked. I always wondered what the original E1M1 looked like. There's also this video filmed just weeks before release and it shows Romero playing an early revision of E1M1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpEBUV_g9vU&t=575s Milo and POTUS posted:Has anyone done all the achievements in the quake remaster? Not 2 which is pretty sparse, the first one. Some seem kinda suspect, like the one where you have to get through something called a "pain maze" without taking damage, which seems unlikely to say the least.   (I'm pretty sure most of the Quake achievements are extremely rare because it counts anyone who played the game, even if they didn't play the remaster when achievements were added) Volte fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Dec 23, 2023 |
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Do it Volte. We believe in you.Mordja posted:Lost Souls should die to one shotgun blast. Why the SSG is NOT OP. In this essay,
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Volte posted:When I was a kid, I had the Doom II Strategy Guide and it had an interview with Romero in the back that I would read over and over (there was a section where he described what he thought Quake was going to be like), and I distinctly remember him saying that they redid E1M1 at the last minute because the original one sucked. I always wondered what the original E1M1 looked like. I think he said the computer room was swapped out entirely several times, there'd be different things on the other side of that doorway until relatively last minute. E1M2 was the level they'd test things in during development, presumably because they were planning on either that being the first level or it was the first one they actually completed.
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The music does so much of the heavy lifting for Entryway.
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New Civvie for Christmas https://youtu.be/2-NuqCNQSqE?si=q4cIpOntEc5pWMUx
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Milo and POTUS posted:Looking at you, godawful crate level. Wow...that's my favorite doom 1 level. If you're talking about E2M2
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E2M2 is a pretty good level, once you get out of the godawful crate part
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You're playing E2M2 wrong if you don't go through the entire crate maze with just the berserk, melting every imp.
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manero posted:You're playing E2M2 wrong if you don't go through the entire crate maze with just the berserk, melting every imp. Uh I think I knoooow how to use the berserk pack
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Doom and Doom 2 always kind of falter when they just do a maze. Mazes are boring.
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verbal enema posted:New Civvie for Christmas
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In case anyone cares, Cohh is streaming Deus Ex right now for some JC Denton goodness: https://twitch.tv/cohh
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Guillermus posted:In case anyone cares, Cohh is streaming Deus Ex right now for some JC Denton goodness: do you have a single fact to back that up
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Quake is.... good. Very good, definitely a better single player than Quake 2. It's a lot harder than I anticipated, though they are very generous with health so. Not doing so hot on secrets
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it's a conversation that's been had so many times already but i really do have to put my opinion in for doom 2's expanded roster more or less being the thing that makes it for me compared to doom 1. it's why i don't really care about either sigil level pack. i don't want to shotgun 50 cacodemons to death in a level and that sort of gameplay really doesn't do it for me. even if doom 2 didn't have the super shotgun the expanded cast of enemies would still be what sets it way above for me.
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Johnny Joestar posted:it's a conversation that's been had so many times already but i really do have to put my opinion in for doom 2's expanded roster more or less being the thing that makes it for me compared to doom 1. it's why i don't really care about either sigil level pack. i don't want to shotgun 50 cacodemons to death in a level and that sort of gameplay really doesn't do it for me. even if doom 2 didn't have the super shotgun the expanded cast of enemies would still be what sets it way above for me. If you’re playing doom.wad PWADs the chain gun is a notable upgrade over the shotgun and you use that as your standard weapon, not the shotgun. It’s not as bad as you’re making it out to be, the chain gun is a perfectly useful weapon on anything less than a baron.
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verbal enema posted:New Civvie for Christmas  I didn't expect to see Civvie cover that piece of Lithtech jank. I accidentally stumbled upon it on Mobygames and was immediately taken with a) that I wish alien invasions were more common in FPS gaming, and 2) holy poo poo it looked loving bad.
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Johnny Joestar posted:it's a conversation that's been had so many times already but i really do have to put my opinion in for doom 2's expanded roster more or less being the thing that makes it for me compared to doom 1. it's why i don't really care about either sigil level pack. i don't want to shotgun 50 cacodemons to death in a level and that sort of gameplay really doesn't do it for me. even if doom 2 didn't have the super shotgun the expanded cast of enemies would still be what sets it way above for me. Once I actually get time to finish it normal I want to try running through it with the doom 2 in doom 1 mod. I did that with sigil 1 and it was a good time
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catlord posted:
Definitely a case where the game should have been cancelled but instead they handed it to the Z-team and demanded something, any damned thing, be delivered, hell or high water. When it sounds like your developers are also your voice actors*, you know it’s being made on paper route money. * I’m thinking back to FEAR: Perseus Mandate, which had that problem as well as some flat-out Quake II mod-quality character animation and machinima vibes. Felt weirdly nostalgic, even back then; I imagine it’s aged like curdled milk.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Uh I think I knoooow how to use the berserk pack Yeah, the buff stops when the screen goes back to normal, obviously.
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Civvie should cover more Lithtech shovelware. There's so much to choose from.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Civvie should cover more Lithtech shovelware. There's so much to choose from. lol I have a right-click context menu extension* that will let you highlight text and then search it in a specified website, visiting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LithTech and selecting the game names to view on YouTube is a cavalcade of jank. * https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/context-menu-search/ocpcmghnefmdhljkoiapafejjohldoga
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On the topic of Lithtech jank, just tried playing Contract JACK, out of curiosity about it being so clearly a precursor to F.E.A.R in a lot of ways and jeez, even with the mod specifically to add widescreen support, that game just does not want to run at resolutions or aspect ratios other than the exact ones specified by the display menu. And when I said "screw it" and just tried playing it in 4:3 just to make sure it would even be worth the effort of messing with it in general, the mouse aiming feels all wonky despite applying the "fix" for mouse sensitivity. With Lithtech's notoriously long list of issues it's had since day 1 (the big ol G logo on my Logitech mouse seeming almost to mock me here), who knows why nothing about this game seems to want to work, but it's honestly remarkable that any good games got made with this cursed engine and sad that they're saddled with it (to say nothing of the copyright nonsense surrounding Monolith's old games), particularly the ones that don't get all the attention so there's less comprehensive info on trying to fix compatibility issues.
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Quake down, good game. Definitely a stronger single player game than Quake 2, if for no other reason than it doesn't drag as much in the back half. I... like the shotguns better in quake 2? More fun with RL in 1, GL could go either way. Super nailgun more fun than hyperblaster, but I think I prefer the automatic weapons in 2 to the nail gun. What the gently caress is up with Vores, is there really no way for their projectiles to expire save getting caught on the level geometry? lovely enemy. Fiends suck too, and shamblers are probably a little spongy by half. My most hated enemy though is the weird rear end blob things. 1stGear posted:Yeah, the buff stops when the screen goes back to normal, obviously. I did think this for a looong time. Like had beaten the game multiple times on UV (and lower) a number of times.
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Nearly all of the Quake enemies are bullet sponges; that’s one of my main gripes compared to Doom. Fun fact: Sandy originally made the vore projectiles faster than the player, but Romero got so infuriated he
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Milo and POTUS posted:I did think this for a looong time. Like had beaten the game multiple times on UV (and lower) a number of times. I believed for 20+ years. I was pretty sure one of the retail manuals I had listed it wrong, but it may have just been the red effect tricking my 10 year old brain. Crustashio fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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david_a posted:Nearly all of the Quake enemies are bullet sponges; that’s one of my main gripes compared to Doom. That's a good idea for a Brutal Quake mod or something
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Milo and POTUS posted:shamblers are probably a little spongy by half Something I'm always kind of curious about with first-time Quake players today... did you realize that shamblers are resistant to explosive weapons? (Back in the day many players probably read that in the manual, but not so much these days.) KajiTheMelonMan posted:That's a good idea for a Brutal Quake mod or something You might enjoy the latest version of Nightmare mode in the Copper mod.
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JLaw posted:Something I'm always kind of curious about with first-time Quake players today... did you realize that shamblers are resistant to explosive weapons? Explains quite a bit. Oh well, that's what the SNG is for I guess. Shame the lightning gun has so little ammo. Anyway this cursory playthrough has got me hyped again for Wrath
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Yeah the super nailgun makes quick work of shamblers; I always save nail ammo for them.
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Doctor Bishop posted:With Lithtech's notoriously long list of issues it's had since day 1 (the big ol G logo on my Logitech mouse seeming almost to mock me here), who knows why nothing about this game seems to want to work, but it's honestly remarkable that any good games got made with this cursed engine and sad that they're saddled with it (to say nothing of the copyright nonsense surrounding Monolith's old games), particularly the ones that don't get all the attention so there's less comprehensive info on trying to fix compatibility issues. What are the "good Lithtech games"? I mean, NOLF 1 and 2 and AvP2, obviously, I've heard good things about Shogo, and I vaguely remember Tron 2.0 being pretty alright, but what are the others?
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Q1 obviously has better vibes by a million but I have a lot of personal love for Q2 and frankly I like most of Q2's armory and bestiary better than Q1's.
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ToxicFrog posted:What are the "good Lithtech games"? I mean, NOLF 1 and 2 and AvP2, obviously, I've heard good things about Shogo, and I vaguely remember Tron 2.0 being pretty alright, but what are the others? If we're talking any era, Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War are generally positively received. None of those are FPS, mind, but they are made in iterations of Lithtech.
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lol I didn’t even know about this one. Looks good https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/arthurs-quest-battle-for-the-kingdom-review/1900-2880448/
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ToxicFrog posted:What are the "good Lithtech games"? I mean, NOLF 1 and 2 and AvP2, obviously, I've heard good things about Shogo, and I vaguely remember Tron 2.0 being pretty alright, but what are the others? F.E.A.R and Condemned are the two big ones that you missed there. Other than those, I'm not sure how good any of the surprising number of other Lithtech games are supposed to be. As for Contract J.A.C.K, I finally did the sensible thing and used dgVoodoo, which solved the aspect ratio and resolution problems fine, though not the mouse aiming. So the mouse aiming jerks up and down slightly when doing something as simple as moving left or right, like a milder version of Dusk's intoxication. Edit: Found a Reddit post saying to turn down the polling rate of your mouse to the 250-125 range and turns out that works perfectly. Doctor Bishop fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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Doctor Bishop posted:F.E.A.R and Condemned are the two big ones that you missed there. Lithtech has some real high highs, but some real low lows. It was cheaper to license than iDTech or Unreal so you get lots of shovelware using it and since it was always a little jank most of the time bigger devs would prefer to use something a bit more stable. I think the only game that wasn't developed by Monolith (who, having made it, know how to use it to great effect) that made good use of the engine was Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault, which barring the terribly bad plane level was pretty decent.
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