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andromache posted:So while you are in the abyssal you aren’t in local. If you are the only one using the system (not uncommon in period basis and paragon soul) as long as your trace isn’t in scan range of the gate to gate path you are safe. Just don’t tell people where you are doing abyssal… ever. Fair, I’d still feel safer with it being out of system though, since all it could take is warping somewhere random for them to see you (maybe checking out a bunch of anoms if someone’s in system and they suspect they’re ratting.) But it’s probably very unlikely. I remember 39P being a fairly popular spot for them if you expected help from karmafleet standing, but otherwise middle of nowhere is safer. Plus with ansis you can get pretty far away in just a few jumps.
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floppyspud posted:Fair, I’d still feel safer with it being out of system though, since all it could take is warping somewhere random for them to see you (maybe checking out a bunch of anoms if someone’s in system and they suspect they’re ratting.) But it’s probably very unlikely. Yep I found a quiet system, and I'm going to find some more, the frigate-abyssal method worked very well.
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Boatswain posted:Yep I found a quiet system, and I'm going to find some more, the frigate-abyssal method worked very well. How many accs were you using for it and how long did it take to get a good safe? Just wondering for if I go back to NS
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floppyspud posted:How many accs were you using for it and how long did it take to get a good safe? Just wondering for if I go back to NS Also relevant: what systems and what times do you play? Asking for a friend
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andromache posted:No gang is going to starburst an empty system, they’ll just do the next one. What's a starburst?
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yoloer420 posted:What's a starburst? when every member of the gang warps to a different place in the system to hunt someone
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floppyspud posted:How many accs were you using for it and how long did it take to get a good safe? Just wondering for if I go back to NS I did it with one character once and got it instantly (20+ AU off any celestial or an line between two celestials). Once I move my Abyssal alt into Delve I'll make some more and get some stats for you.
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Unrelated but is Reactions something to look into without a JF? I'm thinking about next moves.
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Boatswain posted:Unrelated but is Reactions something to look into without a JF? I'm thinking about next moves. edit : however since the war is over you should be able to export it now so that can actually be good money, even if you pay for the service ded fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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Boatswain posted:I did it with one character once and got it instantly (20+ AU off any celestial or an line between two celestials). Once I move my Abyssal alt into Delve I'll make some more and get some stats for you. Cool thanks. As for reactions… without a jf (or a rorqual works almost as well when you use tataras) the logistics will be harder, but not impossible. The other poster is right about it being very competitive, another problem is that especially if you aren’t turning those reactions into ships it’ll be very hard to sell products, as most ship builders are very vertically integrated.
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floppyspud posted:Cool thanks. I see, so its only really PI (and trading, I guess) which can make you passive money? Or at least until you have the capital to get into T2 production?
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I've been doing reactions for most of this year w/30-50 slots and the carbides have been sitting at a steady 5-10% margin for me, with some reactions even higher from time to time. I'm logging in to refresh Jita sell orders once a day and most stuff sells pretty quick. I'm only paying 250 / m3 for logistics though so I imagine that eats into the profits from Delve, especially if your logistics services aren't as fast as mine. You could look into stocking the market / contracts, too. That's a good way to earn very low effort money, though I've got no idea how lucrative it is in 1DQ now.
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Boatswain posted:I see, so its only really PI (and trading, I guess) which can make you passive money? Or at least until you have the capital to get into T2 production? Yeah capital but also spreadsheet skill, if you know how to use a spreadsheet it gets a lot easier. Can’t do t2 production without proper spreadsheet, reactions can be calculated by hand if you need but t2 is a lot more complicated. Pi and trading are great passive incomes, hint hint buy agency drugs.
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yoloer420 posted:What's a starburst? It's a sweet. We use to call them Opal fruits but they got renamed to bring them in line with everyone else on the planet... Much like how snickers are really called Marathon bars.
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Merry Christmas Nerds
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Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for. Best wishes, Helen
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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and then they all clapped
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Hi guys, just wanted to take a minute to wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year, most of all good health! These days people don't spend much time or thought on some personal words to their friends and family, they just copy and paste some random message and send it on. So after all we've been through together this year I want to thank you for your friendship and wish you a happy and fulfilling 2018 - you’re the best gymnastics group anyone could ask for.
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Boatswain posted:I see, so its only really PI (and trading, I guess) which can make you passive money? Or at least until you have the capital to get into T2 production? T2 ships aren't really a thing you make for their own sake though, they have almost zero (sometimes negative) margin, the sole purpose of making ship hulls is to liquidate reaction outputs.
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you can make money off doctrine ships, if they are getting used a lot and blown up. but you will always be competing against people who have massive economies of scale already setup and building likely with stockpiles sitting waiting for local stocks to go down. if you dont go all in you will make enough to make it worth your time, most of the time. just dont expect fat stacks.
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Reaction alts can more or less pay for themselves via skill goo, but doing reactions without a jf is annoying as all hell. T2 hulls are well worth doing, but you will want to do the full stack from reactions to hulls. At least the more isk-dense reactions. Carbides and sylramic fibers can be meh.
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Thanks for all the advice. I'm mostly looking to utilise empty slots on accounts I want to use anyway for for Dreads/tackle/multiboxing abyssals &c. to help defray the cost of running them. The goal is of course to skillgoo and have 3xPI on each account, and beyond that I guess I need to gently caress around with spreadsheets some more.
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Boatswain posted:Thanks for all the advice. I'm mostly looking to utilise empty slots on accounts I want to use anyway for for Dreads/tackle/multiboxing abyssals &c. to help defray the cost of running them. The goal is of course to skillgoo and have 3xPI on each account, and beyond that I guess I need to gently caress around with spreadsheets some more. You have EvE poisoning, I recommend phoning a friend, maybe having a snack or a beer or something in person.
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What's skillgoo? A specific category of reaction?
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Coasterphreak posted:You have EvE poisoning, I recommend phoning a friend, maybe having a snack or a beer or something in person. Tis true, but I'm having fun 
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Jack the Lad posted:What's skillgoo? A specific category of reaction? Skill injectors
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OneEightHundred posted:I think even new ones fall into the same type of filtering as bookmarks inside of the sun, where even if you try to warp to a positional bookmark inside of the sun, it will set your warp destination point to somewhere else. I used to have a bunch of safes inside planets and stars. Wayyy back in the day before the probe changes made probing a necessary gate to a lot of content, people relied on (and got very good at) locating people who were ratting and what not with the D-scan. I got a lot of laughs out of people who thought they found me at a star or a planet, only for me to inside of it.
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