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small butter posted:Do you think that the Republicans will cave and pass a bill without Democratic concessions on the border? Buddy, they've been doing this for decades. You think they give a poo poo what anyone thinks at this point?
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Dec 24, 2023 19:57
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A Russian landing ship was blown up in Crimea this evening. It was said to have been carrying a load of Shahed drones from Iran.
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Dec 26, 2023 06:46
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Mr. Apollo posted:A Russian landing ship was blown up in Crimea this evening. It was said to have been carrying a load of Shahed drones from Iran. It was definitely carrying something explody. Made a hell of a fireball. https://i.imgur.com/byq9Kis.mp4
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Dec 26, 2023 11:45
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https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1739599468310204806?t=KQFWX4F9rz2ofZIRJoc1pw&s=19 Well
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Dec 26, 2023 11:52
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I mean... that IS damage.
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Dec 26, 2023 12:08
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Official crew complement of 98 so probably had a crew of like 50 given state of RuAF. I suppose they could have mostly disembarked but still there must have been a lot of casualties between ship crew and dock workers.
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Dec 26, 2023 13:01
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fatherboxx posted:https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1739599468310204806?t=KQFWX4F9rz2ofZIRJoc1pw&s=19 https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1739590549315723674   edit: photo of Novocherkassk for reference...  photo of sister-ship Caesar Kunikov  Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Dec 26, 2023 |
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Dec 26, 2023 13:26
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Listen, that's not funny. Ships only exhibit that behavior when they're extremely stressed.
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Dec 26, 2023 13:43
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Better video of the explosion... https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1739598861771894907 Looks like it starts at one end and flashes through the rest of the ship.  Link to extracted video if you want to confirm that. No gore or anything that can't be seen in the twitter vid, but tagging as per rules
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Dec 26, 2023 13:56
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Cable Guy posted:Better video of the explosion... That fireball looks quite strange, it must have been something interesting (and highly explosive) being carried.
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Dec 26, 2023 14:27
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Blut posted:That fireball looks quite strange, it must have been something interesting (and highly explosive) being carried. Apperently it was a ton of those Iranian drones and explosives.
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Dec 26, 2023 14:41
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Blut posted:That fireball looks quite strange, it must have been something interesting (and highly explosive) being carried. It was full of Mr. Putin's farts. A precious commodity of unspeakable value as there is only one source. This is a righteous blow and hugely demoralizing. The Russian navy will blame Putin for filling their hold with farts and will not forgive him. Somewhere, some navy guys are plotting.
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Dec 26, 2023 15:29
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Some people like to use AI enhancement tools on low resolution, grainy or nighttime footage videos. And those make explosions look all kind of wacky. Could be that.
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Dec 26, 2023 15:35
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Kith posted:Listen, that's not funny. Ships only exhibit that behavior when they're extremely stressed. No, I believe the vessel followed standard operating procedure and quickly and effectively managed to contain and extinguish the fire by sinking to the bottom of the harbour.
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Dec 26, 2023 16:31
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Cable Guy posted:Looks like it starts at one end and flashes through the rest of the ship. e: poo poo, this isn't the GBS thread. Uhh, I'll balance out the shitposting with a reckless assertion that the value of the strike isn't so much in the targeted asset itself, so much as fresh data on Russian anti-air capabilities in the area. Hopefully will inform a major coordinated strike on the bridge in the new year. Cugel the Clever fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Dec 26, 2023 |
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Dec 26, 2023 16:38
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Apperently it was a ton of those Iranian drones and explosives. So they can be used as an anti-ship weapon
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Dec 26, 2023 16:43
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Blut posted:That fireball looks quite strange, it must have been something interesting (and highly explosive) being carried. I can't remember where I saw/read it (probably youtube) but putting aluminium powder in some explosives makes them extra spicy & the video looks very similar.
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Dec 26, 2023 17:36
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Cugel the Clever posted:Looks like a controlled demolition, just like at the World Trade Center!!!1 Is George "Dubya" Bush up to his old tricks?? Suicide drones don't melt steel ships! A shipload of munitions plus the bulk carrier warship hauling it *and* damaging and blocking the dock infrastructure with the wreckage? That's a pretty solid win.
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Dec 26, 2023 17:40
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Warbadger posted:A shipload of munitions plus the bulk carrier warship hauling it *and* damaging and blocking the dock infrastructure with the wreckage? That's a pretty solid win. Honestly the most surprising thing was after that explosion was that the near by cranes at least looked okay. I guess it makes sense that cranes are pretty tough.
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Dec 26, 2023 17:44
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dr_rat posted:Honestly the most surprising thing was after that explosion was that the near by cranes at least looked okay. I guess it makes sense that cranes are pretty tough. I wonder if their electronics and mechanicals held up as well as their structure did.
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Dec 26, 2023 17:48
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Warbadger posted:A shipload of munitions plus the bulk carrier warship hauling it *and* damaging and blocking the dock infrastructure with the wreckage? That's a pretty solid win.
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Dec 26, 2023 18:12
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Trainee PornStar posted:I can't remember where I saw/read it (probably youtube) but putting aluminium powder in some explosives makes them extra spicy & the video looks very similar. At the end lots of little sprinkles of something, maybe that aluminum powder, precipitates out
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Dec 26, 2023 18:21
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Scratch Monkey posted:At the end lots of little sprinkles of something, maybe that aluminum powder, precipitates out Could be combusting propellant from whatever cargo was in the
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Dec 26, 2023 18:22
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I don’t have a tweet but Fox was reporting that Ukraine lost 2 planes to AA on that attack.
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Dec 26, 2023 18:42
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Trainee PornStar posted:I can't remember where I saw/read it (probably youtube) but putting aluminium powder in some explosives makes them extra spicy & the video looks very similar. Aluminum shavings are used in very specific explosives (ex. ANAL - ammonium nitrate aluminum). Just have chunks of aluminum around won't generally do much unless the fire/explosion hits very precise conditions. A bad mix of aluminum will look like a glitterbomb or splatter it around.
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Dec 26, 2023 18:51
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:I don’t have a tweet but Fox was reporting that Ukraine lost 2 planes to AA on that attack. AP News also says so https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-navy-ship-crimea-3d558083dcd765d8b9daccc461865b21 Which is unfortunate, as I'm not sure two planes was a great trade. Either way, the rest of the world needs to get off their asses and send more aid.
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Dec 26, 2023 19:07
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Dull Fork posted:AP News also says so https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-navy-ship-crimea-3d558083dcd765d8b9daccc461865b21 Not saying this is impossible, but if the Russian MOD is the source of those statements I'm calling BS until further confirmation. What kind of AA fire would catch planes launching guided missiles unless you got ships parked by a Ukrainian airbase?
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Dec 26, 2023 19:13
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Please notice the source:quote:A Russian naval ship in Crimea was damaged in an airstrike by Ukrainian forces, Russia’s Defense Ministry said Tuesday. If both claims are equally accurate, those fighters are just fine. Now it can't be fully ruled out, but I'd be wary. e:fb by WL
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Dec 26, 2023 19:14
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I don't think Ukraine would even have used fighter jets for that.
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Dec 26, 2023 19:23
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Every time Russia has lost anything they always claim they hit Ukraine twice as hard. Oh we lost jets? Well we shot down more of their jets! Oh we lost a boat? Well all the attacking aircraft were destroyed by our AA. No we don't have photos of the downed aircraft please just trust me
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Dec 26, 2023 19:32
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Dirt5o8 posted:Aluminum shavings are used in very specific explosives (ex. ANAL - ammonium nitrate aluminum). ... i can't believe this is a serious question, but is it that they couldn't shorthand label it something better, or is it that they didn't want to pass up the golden opportunity? regardless, thank you for nms tagging the anal explosion
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Dec 26, 2023 19:34
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't think Ukraine would even have used fighter jets for that. yeah, like i feel like its possible that they lost jets and such, but i feel like a long ranged missle or sea drone or something could have done it easier then jets.
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Dec 26, 2023 19:35
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Dull Fork posted:AP News also says so https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-navy-ship-crimea-3d558083dcd765d8b9daccc461865b21 If it is true, and it seems reasonable to doubt it, right now is probably exactly the right time to risk planes on a ship, as unfortunate as that loss would be. Ukraine is going to have new planes very soon for the first time in a while.
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Dec 26, 2023 19:37
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Kavros posted:... i can't believe this is a serious question, but is it that they couldn't shorthand label it something better, or is it that they didn't want to pass up the golden opportunity? regardless, thank you for nms tagging the anal explosion Apparently it's a very specific term for homemade version? https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/ied/anal-explosive quote:Ammonal is an explosive made up of ammonium nitrate and aluminium powder, that when mixed as a homemade explosive (HME) is termed AN/AL.
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Dec 26, 2023 19:41
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Kavros posted:... i can't believe this is a serious question, but is it that they couldn't shorthand label it something better, or is it that they didn't want to pass up the golden opportunity? regardless, thank you for nms tagging the anal explosion I'd always assumed it's the scientifically correct name for that string of chemicals. If it makes you feel any better, it always makes a room full of combat engineers giggle like children. You can also make boom-booms out of pee-pee crystals!
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Dec 26, 2023 19:43
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Rust Martialis posted:Could be combusting propellant from whatever cargo was in the Somethings happening? https://i.imgur.com/byq9Kis.mp4Ship has evolved into Shipwreck! Edit: tagged/spoilered the middle one at a request. Nervous fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Dec 26, 2023 |
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Dec 26, 2023 19:45
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WarpedLichen posted:Not saying this is impossible, but if the Russian MOD is the source of those statements Nenonen posted:Please notice the source D'oh, that'll teach me to read AP articles before I've gotten out of bed, appreciate y'all pointing out the source of the claims.
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Dec 26, 2023 19:56
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't think Ukraine would even have used fighter jets for that. Storm Shadows are plane launched. ... Though Su-24 is a bomber jet, not a fighter jet. Anyway, I "love" how much he-said/she-said they are doing given there are literally photos of the aftermath and videos showing apparent pieces of the boat 600m away.
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Dec 26, 2023 20:01
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WarpedLichen posted:Not saying this is impossible, but if the Russian MOD is the source of those statements I'm calling BS until further confirmation. What kind of AA fire would catch planes launching guided missiles unless you got ships parked by a Ukrainian airbase? None. Storm Shadows out-range every air defense system Russia has available pretty comfortably. Ukrainians would have to screw up big time to lose two planes to ground based air defenses while lobbing cruise missiles at that port. ^And yes, the storm shadows are being launched by the Su-24s. That's the soviet F-111 analog - a tactical bomber with a pretty long range and big payload. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Dec 26, 2023 |
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Dec 26, 2023 20:12
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Dirt5o8 posted:
Is that because you can extract potassium nitrate from it? or is there another fun thing you can do?
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