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Numerical Anxiety posted:Does it cover them in any meaningful way? Medical providers put similar clauses in their emails, but misdirected confidential information is still a HIPAA breach and sanctionable even if you have a cute little note in the signature. It must be the same for lawyers, no? Very likely, but nobody removes the email disclaimer because they’re afraid they could get docked for not having it. “No, it wouldn’t have been enough, but you didn’t even try,” is definitely a thing bar discipline folks have said in many contexts.
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Numerical Anxiety posted:Does it cover them in any meaningful way? Medical providers put similar clauses in their emails, but misdirected confidential information is still a HIPAA breach and sanctionable even if you have a cute little note in the signature. It must be the same for lawyers, no? Well, it does mean that whoever gets the misdirected document has been informed that it's confidential. That conceivably could help establish something in a lawsuit if the person who got the document misused it and was sued, or if they the person who received it wanted to use it in court and the sending lawyer wanted to get it disallowed (like when Alex Jones' lawyers sent huge files to opposing council). It doesn't protect the lawyer from any sanctions they'd get for sending personal information to the wrong person and doesn't really stop the damage. So I think it can do a tiny amount of good in some cases and costs nothing to slap onto every email, and noone wants to be the one to say 'let's stop doing this' and then run into a problem.
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Dec 21, 2023 20:44
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By now there must have been at least one court case that somehow involves those email disclaimers. Seems like it would be a pain to look up though. "Save the Earth, think twice before printing this email!"
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Dec 21, 2023 21:35
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ponzicar posted:By now there must have been at least one court case that somehow involves those email disclaimers. Seems like it would be a pain to look up though. I’ve had this on emails that were printed out for me… and had to use a second sheet just for the message to save the earth.
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Dec 21, 2023 22:10
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Need to print out the "do not print" language for review by Legal.
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Red Oktober posted:I’ve had this on emails that were printed out for me… and had to use a second sheet just for the message to save the earth. Print double sided you earth killer! On emails I get forwarded to me at work its usually "consider the environment before printing"
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Dec 22, 2023 00:01
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My wife has her (uncommon in the US, very common in Sweden and Finland) first name as her gmail account and she gets no end of old Finnish/swedish lady emails. And every now and then someone else in the US who is part of a group of friends who travel together. She's reached out to the nordic ones a few times when it was like hospital records and important stuff, and they've understood, but the lady's group in the US just keeps re-adding her to the list even when she replied all and let them know randomly informing strangers of your addresses and dates you'll be out of town is a bad practice, or that we're flattered but don't intend to go to the lady's family reunion. Like how hard is it to know whether you have an email address or not? This seems like a really common problem from this thread alone.
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Dec 25, 2023 06:10
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They just don't care I guess. I don't get people using my actual email, which is lastname.firstname at gmail, but Google doesn't actually recognize the period in email addresses, so I get a decent number of people trying to use lastnamefirstname.
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Some people also seem incapable of understanding that people make mistakes. I had someone use my email address and I got an important looking email for them, so I replied to the sender saying they had the wrong address and got an indignant sounding "But that can't be, this is the address you gave me!" back.
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Dec 25, 2023 13:21
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I texted somebody that her phone bill was going to my email address and got a very sassy "No you should change YOUR address because I'm not going to accommodate you".
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I've had my phone number since 2004, and I STILL sometimes get messages for someone else. And it's consistently the same person. Who must have had that phone number twenty years ago. A few years ago it had been quiet from them for a while, and then it started up again, so I replied with "Is this bullshit starting again" and they got super mad at me lol. Nothing since then I think whatsapp being so popular in Europe has kind of put an end to this, since there's much more to identify a number than just the number, with the photo and the name I also know that there's two other guys with my name (first and last, ignoring any middle initials they may have) and one of them gave my name to the academic hospital where they were treating his dad, so I got a lot of sensitive information about that until I forwarded it to the university's privacy office with a brief note. Also emails about the dad selling his car, so I guess he recovered from the lung thing that I received way too much information about
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peanut posted:I texted somebody that her phone bill was going to my email address and got a very sassy "No you should change YOUR address because I'm not going to accommodate you". Cancel the phone account.
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peanut posted:I texted somebody that her phone bill was going to my email address and got a very sassy "No you should change YOUR address because I'm not going to accommodate you". Change their phone number. They sent the bill to you, it's clearly yours.
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Dec 25, 2023 15:34
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I share an uncommon name with a minor celebrity in the sports world and get emails and mail for him sometimes. It’s distressing sometimes to track a parcel and see it heading to his address but they either catch it/ he sends it back.
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Dec 25, 2023 15:55
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I've been getting a lot of "problem processing your payment" emails from Amazon, a pest control company and comcast, even though when I check the account all is fine. Well, not a LOT, but considerably more than ZERO, which is what I used to get.
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Of course it’s got money you haven’t paid your bills yet!
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Just discovered that the realtor spam I've been getting is actually for someone with the same email address as me only there's a dot between the name and the number (it's not my real name). The site let me change the contact info because there's no password or anything lmao.
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Dunno-Lars posted:Change their phone number. They sent the bill to you, it's clearly yours. I got so many school reports and other things for this one kid in Australia I was tempted to unenroll them.
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:My wife has her (uncommon in the US, very common in Sweden and Finland) first name as her gmail account and she gets no end of old Finnish/swedish lady emails. And every now and then someone else in the US who is part of a group of friends who travel together. She's reached out to the nordic ones a few times when it was like hospital records and important stuff, and they've understood, but the lady's group in the US just keeps re-adding her to the list even when she replied all and let them know randomly informing strangers of your addresses and dates you'll be out of town is a bad practice, or that we're flattered but don't intend to go to the lady's family reunion. Start greeting them with the traditional swedish greeting, send them hello.jpg
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Professor Shark posted:I share an uncommon name with a minor celebrity in the sports world and get emails and mail for him sometimes. It’s distressing sometimes to track a parcel and see it heading to his address but they either catch it/ he sends it back. This means yeah, “clever” people guess they know that famous persons e-mail address. For a very short, glorious time she let me use her account to bait a right-wing rear end in a top hat who wrote to said gmail account both under her name and as a sock puppet trying to plug her loving book about how Columbus was good, actually. Wife found it funny for a while, but unfortunately this was “too disruptive” to her “job” so I’m not allowed to anymore and those mails go right to the trash.
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I have firstnamelastname@hotmail.co.nz, people always send things to firstnamelastname@hotmail.com. Even when I make a loving point of saying “Note it’s not hotmail.com”. I know of several things I’ve asked for that have been misdirected, god knows what I’ve missed. Hope he’s honest.
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Some years back I got an email from someone who claimed to be a detective asking me to contact another person since they haven't replied to their emails or calls. I just ignored it since it could have been a scam and if it was important they would find another way to contact the person I assumed. About a month later I got a follow-up saying that since the person never got in touch they couldn't charge some guy with aggravated assault and gave me some information on a grand jury session where they'd try to charge him with what they could. I felt kind of bad about not replying to that first email. I don't get much mistaken email otherwise, although I sometimes get people who sign up for services using my email address, I usually just try to unsubscribe and ignore it and put that I never signed up if the option is there, but some services just will not stop spamming me. Someone signed me up to IndiaMart and goddamn, there is no way to get off their mailing list, they say you can but it never works. Original_Z fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Dec 26, 2023 |
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Volmarias posted:Start greeting them with the traditional swedish greeting, send them hello.jpg Time to go register goat.se, the website all about Gävlebocken.
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Original_Z posted:Some years back I got an email from someone who claimed to be a detective asking me to contact another person since they haven't replied to their emails or calls. I just ignored it since it could have been a scam and if it was important they would find another way to contact the person I assumed. About a month later I got a follow-up saying that since the person never got in touch they couldn't charge some guy with aggravated assault and gave me some information on a grand jury session where they'd try to charge him with what they could. I felt kind of bad about not replying to that first email. That follow up sounds fake too
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I bought some junk off Amazon which, surprise, was junk and didn't work very well, so I left a 1 star review explaining why it was junk to warn others. As soon as the review was published, I got an email from the seller apologizing for the product not working as expected and offering a refund. The email did seem legit, but I was not going to click a link offering money in an email, and I could NOT find a spot in Amazon itself offering the same option. Also I was not concerned about refunding a 10 dollar plastic piece of junk that i figured would be junk when I threw it into a cart for free shipping, honestly. but... is it possible that there are scammers trolling 1 star reviews to send out scam links? That was my initial reaction but my review was posted anonymously so they shouldn't have gotten the email address off it (unless it's an inside job, who knows). If it's legit I actually kinda want to bump the review up a star because the seller didn't need to apologize for their junk being junk and I appreciated it.
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Tagra posted:I bought some junk off Amazon which, surprise, was junk and didn't work very well, so I left a 1 star review explaining why it was junk to warn others. As soon as the review was published, I got an email from the seller apologizing for the product not working as expected and offering a refund. Yes, this is very possible. It's also possible it's legit. Sellers don't get your email address, but they CAN email you through Amazon's system. Only for service stuff, not just generally for marketing purposes. Real sellers in China do offer refunds to get 1 star reviews removed. I've only received these refunds through Amazon (and have always left my reviews up), but these guys have every incentive to do things outside of the Amazon system, since Amazon may notice that someone receives a refund and then on the same day removes a review, and they may not want this to happen
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Most impressive was the new scam of sending a package tracking email for something that you didn't buy. But apple picks up the tracking info and starts following the phantom package/courier for updates in its own app. So over a few days it looks like you've got a package that you watch get misdelivered and ping pong between sites all the while there's a link to the scam site to resolve the delivery issue.
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Volmarias posted:Start greeting them with the traditional swedish greeting, send them hello.jpg Wouldn't Böglyft.jpg be more traditional?
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teen witch posted:Time to go register goat.se, the website all about Gävlebocken. Domain squatted 
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My sister in law’s sister in law had a weird thing happen to her this holiday season: she bought someone a $200 giftcard, but when the person uploaded it to an account the balance read as $15.xx. The package the card came in was sealed, how did the scam work?
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Professor Shark posted:My sister in law’s sister in law had a weird thing happen to her this holiday season: she bought someone a $200 giftcard, but when the person uploaded it to an account the balance read as $15.xx. The package the card came in was sealed, how did the scam work? Gift card scams are really prevalent this year. I think most of them involve shoplifting the cards, steaming the packages open and recording the information, and then re-sealing and reverse-shoplifting them back onto the shelves. The scammer's system keeps pinging the card and as soon as it's activated at a register it cashes in. There have been reports of cards with some of the numbers scratched off so that the scammer has more time to cash in before it's redeemed by the purchaser.
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Would they even need the physical cards? I got a fair number of Amazon cards over the holidays and redeemed them all in one session and I started thinking about some kind of keygen to just brute force shotgun generate redemption codes as they started to feel real same-y pretty quick. If you have a system to ping activated codes, what are a few thousand more codes to check in on?
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Robert Facepalmer posted:Would they even need the physical cards? I got a fair number of Amazon cards over the holidays and redeemed them all in one session and I started thinking about some kind of keygen to just brute force shotgun generate redemption codes as they started to feel real same-y pretty quick. If you have a system to ping activated codes, what are a few thousand more codes to check in on? They should be random enough in a large enough space to make that economically infeasible; if someone's generator scheme is predictable like that then they could be completely rolled in the way you describe.
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That is it, they don't feel like they are that random. Seven cards isn't the biggest sample but the codes all start with A, the first four characters are AXXX where X is two letters and one numeral. The next six characters are either four letters and two numerals or four numerals and two letters, the first and fourth characters are numerals. The last five characters are all letters, the fourth character in that string is an A 5/7 times. I'm almost tempted to make an Excel spreadsheet to generate like 1000 codes and see how many 'hit'.
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Robert Facepalmer posted:That is it, they don't feel like they are that random. Those exponentials add up pretty quickly and there's probably some checksumming and similar stuff going on in there to ensure that the entire space isn't valid.
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Midjack posted:Those exponentials add up pretty quickly and there's probably some checksumming and similar stuff going on in there to ensure that the entire space isn't valid. Could there be something on Amazon's end that tracks what cards have been reported as sold? I've come across gift cards that had to be activated by the cashier to work but don't know if that's just something on the card.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Could there be something on Amazon's end that tracks what cards have been reported as sold? I've come across gift cards that had to be activated by the cashier to work but don't know if that's just something on the card. Yes, that's just about every gift card scheme anymore. The POS phones back to the card issuer to tell them to activate that card number.
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I have an early short gmail address which in hindsight is the sort thing you'd put in if you had to put down a plausible fake address somewhere. I get everything imaginable, business stuff, medical records, you name it. Mostly e-receipts, then endless spam, from stores. (and they wonder why people don't want to give them their real email) Some guy in Kenya thinks its his address, he owes a lot of back taxes to the Kenyan IRS. From his airline receipts I think he fled to South Africa but I'm no snitch.Tagra posted:Gift card scams are really prevalent this year. I think most of them involve shoplifting the cards, steaming the packages open and recording the information, and then re-sealing and reverse-shoplifting them back onto the shelves. The scammer's system keeps pinging the card and as soon as it's activated at a register it cashes in. It wouldn't catch everything, but I don't see why they couldn't flag any card that gets pinged before it is purchased as no good and the cashier should throw it away and use another one.
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Pekinduck posted:It wouldn't catch everything, but I don't see why they couldn't flag any card that gets pinged before it is purchased as no good and the cashier should throw it away and use another one. That's the thing—it is good. The register activates it, and if the purchaser redeemed in that very second they would be good to go. But most cards get carried home or given to someone days later and by then the scam bot has cashed it in. that's why some thieves will scratch off some of the numbers: so that the bot has more time to cycle through numbers looking for recently activated ones. The register scans the barcode or whatever on the outside, activating the card inside, but the numbers inside are obscured until the package is opened and the purchaser discovers some of them are scratched off. Then the purchaser calls customer support to complain that the numbers are missing but the money is long gone. The card itself was still valid, but the only person who knew the full card number was the thief who steamed it open and took the numbers off. But the call to customer support delays it long enough that they can cash in before the actual purchaser. [edit] You'd think the card companies could track how many times a non-activated card number is pinged and invalidate them or something though. They must see the traffic? Tagra fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Dec 30, 2023 |
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