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Fun fact: Sam Howell’s 2023 season would almost certainly set a Chicago Bears franchise record by yardage
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Mike N Eich posted:Fun fact: Sam Howell’s 2023 season would almost certainly set a Chicago Bears franchise record by yardage No. He's a couple hundred yards short. The Bears have someone at 3838.
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Dec 28, 2023 02:56
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Forrest on Fire posted:No. He's a couple hundred yards short. The Bears have someone at 3838. Erik Kramer had 3838 in 1995 Jay Cutler had 3812 in 2014, 3666 in '09 and 3659 in '15 At 3624 this year Sam Howell would be good for fifth place all-time for the Bears, and by default their third-best QB
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Dec 28, 2023 03:24
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Mike N Eich posted:Sam Howell has been sacked 60 times this season? Thats legitimately impressive pffftt. Ameture hour In 1986, Randall Cunningham https://www.sbnation.com/secret-base/22156273/nfl-philadelphia-eagles-1986-passing-sacks-randall-cunningham-ron-jaworski-dorktown quote:The 1986 Philadelphia Eagles are pretty well-known for having been by far the most sacked team ever. They allowed 6.5 per game when no one else since 1970’s AFL-NFL merger has even allowed five: Christ, I dunno what's up with that website layout but, regardless, SAm Howell and David Carr aint got poo poo on my 86 Eagles. 104 sacks allowed https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/1986.htm
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Dec 28, 2023 03:32
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Looking at the stats, RC got sacked on more than 25% of his dropbacks. That's  to a crazy degree.209 pas attempts, 72 sacks. Jesus.
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Dec 28, 2023 04:34
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Randall Cunningham was a goddamn wizard and if he hadn't blown out his ACL he would be in the Hall of Fame., but the mid-80s was a rough time to be an NFCEast QB. You had to face the Giants with Lawrence Taylor and Leonard Marshall, Washington with Dexter Manley and Charles Mann, St Louis had Freddie Joe Nunn. Dallas sucked but still had Jim Jeffcoat, Too Tall Jones and the corpse of Randy White.
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Dec 28, 2023 05:06
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Forrest on Fire posted:Bad. Not atrocious but like he somehow hasn't ever played in an NFL offense. I kind of wonder if the market for Kyler would be dampened by the Watson and Wilson deals going south. I think Kyler is pretty good but if he doesn't show any flashes of that post-injury, how confident can you really be that he'll return to normal given enough time?
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Dec 28, 2023 05:14
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Waltzing Along posted:Looking at the stats, RC got sacked on more than 25% of his dropbacks. That's that was Buddy Ryan at his Buddy Ryan-ist. He understood defense but not offense. Combine a bad offensive line with throwing bombs every other play, and Cunningham was lucky y be alive by the end of the season.
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Dec 28, 2023 05:15
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Even wilder when you consider that Randall was the most elusive quarterback maybe ever up to that point. If you put a generic stiff of that era in that situation he gets sacked on 50% of dropbacks.
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Dec 28, 2023 05:57
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Makes me wonder if some of those sacks were just designed runs and the official statisticians were just like "QB tackled behind LoS must be a sack"
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Dec 28, 2023 05:59
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xbilkis posted:I kind of wonder if the market for Kyler would be dampened by the Watson and Wilson deals going south. I think Kyler is pretty good but if he doesn't show any flashes of that post-injury, how confident can you really be that he'll return to normal given enough time? Its gotta be the right landing spot but there's no way a team like Pittsburgh or New Orleans or something wouldn't be interested.
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Dec 28, 2023 06:05
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a raven should get mvp, either Lamar or Flacco
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Dec 28, 2023 06:28
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If you are Pittsburgh or Atlanta, do you prefer:
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Dec 28, 2023 07:30
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I am not sure what either of those QBs are worth given the context of the Darnold to Panthers trade.
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Dec 28, 2023 07:31
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Ornery and Hornery posted:If you are Pittsburgh or Atlanta, do you prefer: It's tempting to say Fields as he's cheap and basically no strings attached, but I'd still say Kyler who I think is much more likely to be, ya know, good.
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Dec 28, 2023 08:19
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I am not sure what either of those QBs are worth given the context of the Darnold to Panthers trade.
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Fields isn't worth more than a 2nd, Kyler wouldn't go anywhere for less than a first I wouldn't think, given what it takes to get a starter, there's no way they cut bait for a 2nd or something.
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Dec 28, 2023 09:47
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predicto posted:Randall Cunningham was a goddamn wizard and if he hadn't blown out his ACL he would be in the Hall of Fame., but the mid-80s was a rough time to be an NFCEast QB. You had to face the Giants with Lawrence Taylor and Leonard Marshall, Washington with Dexter Manley and Charles Mann, St Louis had Freddie Joe Nunn. Dallas sucked but still had Jim Jeffcoat, Too Tall Jones and the corpse of Randy White. predicto posted:that was Buddy Ryan at his Buddy Ryan-ist. He understood defense but not offense. Combine a bad offensive line with throwing bombs every other play, and Cunningham was lucky y be alive by the end of the season. I was gonna say. I was just out of high school in 1986 and Buddy Ryan famously almost had NO offensive scheme whatsoever and didn't particularly seem to care. He built some insanely good defenses later on there but never ever had anything resembling an NFL offense. IcePhoenix posted:Makes me wonder if some of those sacks were just designed runs and the official statisticians were just like "QB tackled behind LoS must be a sack" I can assure you they were not. There was basically no play design at all beyond "Randall, you run around and find someone open then chuck it to someone". Real backyard football poo poo. Strangely, there were very few designed run plays for Cunningham, even back then when RPO's and QB draws weren't nearly as common. They'd roll him out a lot because they loving had to behind that line but he wasn't used like Lamar, Allen or even Vick. Ryan, who never should have been a head coach, ruined his career IMO.
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Dec 28, 2023 14:10
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Ornery and Hornery posted:If you are Pittsburgh or Atlanta, do you prefer: Kyler is better than Fields right now If Fields keeps playing he'll be better in 2-3 years Source: the two teams I watch the most of are the Bears and Cardinals. I think Murray learns a lot less than Fields. I think Fields holds onto plays way longer than Kyler. I'd rather have Kyler if I'm the Steelers and I'd rather have Fields if I'm the Falcons
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Dec 28, 2023 16:05
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Forrest on Fire posted:Source: the two teams I watch the most of are the Bears and Cardinals. What the gently caress
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Dec 28, 2023 16:38
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Forrest on Fire posted:Source: the two teams I watch the most of are the Bears and Cardinals. I'm so sorry
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Dec 28, 2023 16:43
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That’s got to be a clockwork orange type situation right?
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Dec 28, 2023 16:44
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Arizona is full of people from Chicago. Kinda like Florida and New York.
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Dec 28, 2023 16:51
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and i thought i was insane for watching only the bears and northwestern wildcats
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Forrest on Fire posted:Source: the two teams I watch the most of are the Bears and Cardinals. https://www.betterhelp.com/
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It's ok everybody, I did it to myself. I hate the forward pass. E: I even did the order wrong I'm IL-based and support the Cardinals. Forrest on Fire fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Dec 28, 2023 |
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Dec 28, 2023 18:36
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R.D. Mangles posted:and i thought i was insane for watching only the bears and northwestern wildcats Nah, watching the Cardinals is far more sane than forcing yourself to watch big ten west ball. anyone who subjects themselves to Northwestern Iowa should be committed.
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Dec 28, 2023 18:41
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Forrest on Fire posted:It's ok everybody, I did it to myself. I hate the forward pass. You're just being a state loyalist. They are Chicago's original football team after all.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:That’s got to be a clockwork orange type situation right? Darker 
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Dec 28, 2023 19:02
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Chicago took the poor Staleys away from Decatur and God laid a curse against their Quarterbacks for all of time. Da Bears.
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pasaluki posted:Chicago took the poor Staleys away from Decatur and God laid a curse against their Quarterbacks for all of time. Da Bears. Look at this accurate take. The NFL should let the Bears leave for Arlington, then expand the NFL to Decatur and Iowa. Bring football back to the dark ages.
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Dec 28, 2023 19:31
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Dexo posted:Nah, watching the Cardinals is far more sane than forcing yourself to watch big ten west ball. no i'm normal
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R.D. Mangles posted:no i'm normal The second best QB you've ever rooted for is Trevor Simien. The second best QB I've ever rooted for is Carson Palmer. We are not the same.
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True story the Bears played all of their home games in Champaign, Illinois in 2002. The Chicago based Bears fans traveled in droves to attend the games, and the vast majority were great. There were a few though who would just bitch about everything from the hot dogs not having right kind of mustard or not being done in the proper Chicago way, to the bathrooms not being where they wanted. They thought the whole area stunk... like literally smelled bad, which that one is probably true because there is a Kraft cheese factory that spends all day spewing noxious fumes. But certain fans would not stop bitching about it to the point where someone finally said "I found where the source of that stench is" and pointed towards the Bears sideline. The Chicago Bears finished the season 4-12.
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Forrest on Fire posted:The second best QB you've ever rooted for is Trevor Simien. The second best QB I've ever rooted for is Carson Palmer. We are not the same. this guy is disparaging the legacy of zack kustok, brett basanez, and dan persa in this thread
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R.D. Mangles posted:this guy is disparaging the legacy of zack kustok, brett basanez, and dan persa in this thread Those all sound like Chicago area car dealers, and I'm right to disparage them.
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pasaluki posted:True story the Bears played all of their home games in Champaign, Illinois in 2002. The Kraft factory and the stadium are nowhere near each other! Blommers is far closer to Soldier Field. My friend quick working at said factory because the higher ups wanted to install a new process of putting nitrogen at the bottom of cans for food stabilization. They were switching to a drop of liquid, and he kept asking 'how are you going to make sure the drop is identical sized each time? How are you going to make sure the cap goes on fast enough? How are you ensuring the bottle doesn't explode from the liquid nitrogen warming up and converting to gas?" After they reassured him over and over, in writing, that nothing would go wrong, the first test run had every bottle blow up and injured some dude's eyes with shrapnel.
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trevorreznik posted:The Kraft factory and the stadium are nowhere near each other! Blommers is far closer to Soldier Field. Did you confirm that the putrid smell was actually coming from the Bears?
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Forrest on Fire posted:Those all sound like Chicago area car dealers, and I'm right to disparage them. meet me in temecula
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pasaluki posted:Did you confirm that the putrid smell was actually coming from the Bears? 100%. They stunk. I got season tickets for $200 for 10 games as a student and sat in the end zone. Highlights I remember: Favre throwing it like 80 yards in the air to our end zone on MNF , utlacher standing in no man's land instead of hitting favre kGB picking off a screen and scoring at the other end right when bears were about to score Tom Brady QB sneak for 2 yards on 4tj down with no measurement, leading me to think it was a ref conspiracy on ball placement due to an overturned lineman INT. Just this year I finally watched the game and realized I was wrong Tom Brady to Patten with no time left, over utlacher I think I believe there was a randy moss TD over utlacher as well I don't think there was an offensive highlight the entire year
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