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stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



smellmycheese posted:

Amusingly I’ve just discovered that the Ricky Gervais subreddit almost entirely hates the unfunny twat

Russell Brand too. The hater subreddits are the best subreddits.

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Tindalos
May 1, 2008

Fatty posted:

Think the most obscure game I've seen mentioned was Heavens Vault, thats a pretty deep cut.

Nice, we need more games about archaeologists deciphering ancient languages.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Scientastic posted:

The point of University Challenge isn’t to ask “degree level” questions about subjects, it’s to show that students aren’t all lazy and feckless, only getting out of bed to do the bare minimum to pass their avocado studies course. The idea is that it asks questions that a well-rounded individual would have a reasonable chance of knowing through being a curious person who wants to know about things.

Even my wife would get the Gordon Freeman question, and she’s never played a video game in her life.

Edit: Nope, she guessed Portal

? What are you talking about, it's infamous for having questions that aren't even in the same league as most other quiz shows

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Johnny Mercer is continuing to dig downwards

https://twitter.com/carolvorders/status/1740112052247769230

Fred Thomas is the Labour candidate for his constituency, and who is almost definitely going to put Johnny out of a job

https://twitter.com/carolvorders/status/1740306926762660233

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Dec 28, 2023

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Mercer is a very specific niche kind of Tory oval office

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Jimmy Dimmy controls the weather now



:allears:

Her Dryer
Oct 15, 2012

Failed Imagineer posted:

This kind of undermines my argument because I do find myself getting randomly pissed off about the existence of James Corden lol

One of the best recurring Limmy bits on his streams is just how much he hates the existence of James Corden (and now also Cilla Black)

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

This would have had the Ra straight back out on the streets with AK47s.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

smellmycheese posted:

I honestly can’t see Moet or the Widow Cliquot retooling their production lines to accommodate a handful of angry ham men who order champagne at best once a year
Apparently some of those sizes exist just because some Duke in Monaco orders them and it's the cachet rather than the volume or the ongoing profit, so the UK will just have to persuade Charles to order enough cases and they'll be calling it a Wanka and saying that it being 0.756 bottles is very significant in no time.

I can't see useful drinks like soda or normal European wine ever doing that, but champagne runs on that poo poo, because otherwise people might notice that everything else is just sparkling better.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


https://twitter.com/jewdas/status/1740323239891521634?s=20

Ah yes, Woody Allen's unhinged ex who has a grudge against him for...starting a relationship with her adopted daughter. Nightmare fodder tbh. The Times sure knows where to find them

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

forkboy84 posted:

https://twitter.com/jewdas/status/1740323239891521634?s=20

Ah yes, Woody Allen's unhinged ex who has a grudge against him for...starting a relationship with her adopted daughter. Nightmare fodder tbh. The Times sure knows where to find them

You do not , in fact, have to the defend the reputation of the disgraced Hollywood mega nonce

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

stev posted:

The hater subreddits are the best subreddits.
This isn't about a celebrity per se, but it's still a heartwarming story.

Years ago a 40k Youtuber named "Arch Warhammer" had a bit of a following, despite being an obvious chud with strong political opinions. Understandably not wanting their brand to be associated with that drivel, Games Workshop made rare good use of their legal department by telling him to stop using their trademark for his channel name, forcing him to become just "Arch". At the same time they also took the unprecedented step of a public announcement telling any chuds to not buy their products and gently caress off out of the hobby, with enough clues for people to deduce who in particular prompted the message.

This resulted in some leaked logs from Arch's private Discord server, where you'd be shocked to learn that he not only openly confessed to being a fascist and was regularly engaged in relentless racsim/homophobia/etc, but his inner circle were also big fans of very specific forms of pornography.

Mods for his personal sub-reddit staged a coup and /r/ArchWarhammer is now dedicated to Warhammer architecture - plus pro-communism, gay & trans rights content specifically to piss off the former founder.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

mrpwase posted:

With a lot of things over the many years I've argued with my dad, I think he is (and a lot of others like him are) a good person submerged under a torrent of right wing poo poo from social media, and a life spent voting Tory because he decided that's what would make him the most money, to provide for us. If you internalise the first thing you hear about a topic (usually a lie) and get frustrated when you get into an argument about it, it is inevitably very difficult to come to the truth when you're dug into that position.
I've given up talking to my parents about certain things because I discovered an unassailable and incredibly disappointing loop in their thinking.

Many years ago we got in an argument because they said gay men shouldn't be teachers because they believe they're more likely to be pedophiles (i.e. 'start touching the kids'). I called them out on it, I went and looked up a bunch of stuff, but even when proven wrong they still fell back on 'well what if they did though?'

I discovered last year when they got a bit drunk that they seem to have the same idea about trans women assaulting cis women. And again I tried my hardest, but they still had this barrier of 'well I've imagined it happening, which means it's a real threat.' And as soon as I started to seriously challange it they went on the defensive and started accusing me of 'bringing up politics.'

I think that's the main difference is that if I had an underlying assumption, and it clashed with reality, I'd consciously work to get rid of that underlying assumption. But they just seem to be walking around in a daily mail induced torpor of self righteous fury.

They manage to keep up the facade of seeming such lovely people to everyone, and manage to section off 'talking about politics' that people find it hard to believe when I say it. But it slips out occasionally, like when I was driving along with my dad talking about people hosting Syrian and Ukrainian families, and he suddenly launched into this invective about what if you got one of 'the bad ones.'

It just makes me sad because it's people like that who get to call themselves nice, they get to control what's possible in political discourse, and call people like us rude and disruptive when we challenge it; and the whole time there's this layer of hatred of the other boiling away under the surface.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

A lot of people think politics is some separate field, but in reality it's just how you would treat people you don't know.

frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I've given up talking to my parents about certain things because I discovered an unassailable and incredibly disappointing loop in their thinking.

Many years ago we got in an argument because they said gay men shouldn't be teachers because they believe they're more likely to be pedophiles (i.e. 'start touching the kids'). I called them out on it, I went and looked up a bunch of stuff, but even when proven wrong they still fell back on 'well what if they did though?'

I discovered last year when they got a bit drunk that they seem to have the same idea about trans women assaulting cis women. And again I tried my hardest, but they still had this barrier of 'well I've imagined it happening, which means it's a real threat.' And as soon as I started to seriously challange it they went on the defensive and started accusing me of 'bringing up politics.'

I think that's the main difference is that if I had an underlying assumption, and it clashed with reality, I'd consciously work to get rid of that underlying assumption. But they just seem to be walking around in a daily mail induced torpor of self righteous fury.

They manage to keep up the facade of seeming such lovely people to everyone, and manage to section off 'talking about politics' that people find it hard to believe when I say it. But it slips out occasionally, like when I was driving along with my dad talking about people hosting Syrian and Ukrainian families, and he suddenly launched into this invective about what if you got one of 'the bad ones.'

It just makes me sad because it's people like that who get to call themselves nice, they get to control what's possible in political discourse, and call people like us rude and disruptive when we challenge it; and the whole time there's this layer of hatred of the other boiling away under the surface.

They're binary thinkers living in a past fantasy world that gave them unprecedented opportunity. They cannot grasp a world in which they're wrong or where things are significantly more politically complex because these are at direct odds with everything they've been told for the vast majority of their lives. Trying to even remotely parse this in boomer-verse is too much effort and too confrontational so it's just got to be someone else's fault! Especially imaginary threats of marauding immigrants, gay people, trans people, the woke or whatever boogeyman they think is 'coming for them'.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The interesting part is that the vast majority of interpersonal violence, child abuse, and 'bad ones in your home' comes from the heteropatriarchal nuclear family and nobody ever wants to talk about that.

If you really want to neutron bomb the conversation then internalize a bunch of facts about the toxicity of that structure until you can trot them out like Daily Mail just so stories in response to any about an 'other'.

Fatty
Sep 13, 2004
Not really fat

Ms Adequate posted:

"Which character serves as your castle's librarian in Suikoden II?" Emilia

It would be a poo poo question on Mastermind with Suikoden as a specialist subject. Its definitely a poo poo question for University Challenge.

Tindalos posted:

Nice, we need more games about archaeologists deciphering ancient languages.

Try Chants of Sennaar if you haven't.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


I mean I play games a decent amount and would have absolutely no idea about those, that's way past trivia into esoteric knowledge which only a few tens of thousand people actually know.

The ones they had seem just right.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

xtothez posted:

Years ago a 40k Youtuber named "Arch Warhammer" had a bit of a following, despite being an obvious chud with strong political opinions. Understandably not wanting their brand to be associated with that drivel, Games Workshop made rare good use of their legal department by telling him to stop using their trademark for his channel name, forcing him to become just "Arch". At the same time they also took the unprecedented step of a public announcement telling any chuds to not buy their products and gently caress off out of the hobby, with enough clues for people to deduce who in particular prompted the message.

To be fair, the Imperium of Man within their IP is incredibly and obviously fascist, it's not surprising it's going to attract people with Certain Views who don't fully get that that's not meant to be a good thing.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
"they should stop playing politics/why is it so political/why can't they just all sit down get on with it"

aka

"I want all politics bar my own to not be considered"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
A lot of it is style too. Things involving studies, organizations, statistics, or the analytic view are 'politics' even though really they should be the opposite, whereas half-formed comfort thoughts taking the human view from within their ingroup are 'not politics' even though they are.

Which ties into the whole idea of the Other as a way to avoid examining things that might make you uncomfortable. Don't need to listen to the sanctimonious vegans if you can convince yourself that the Muslims invented a far worse form of meat industry on purpose because they're terrible.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
University Challenge’s thing is complicated questions on academic subjects and easier ones on pop culture, it’s the opposite of every other quiz show

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Well, that's some progressive news at least.

Tindalos
May 1, 2008

Fatty posted:

Try Chants of Sennaar if you haven't.

I'll stick it on the list of stuff to try out in the new year, thank!

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Fatty posted:

It would be a poo poo question on Mastermind with Suikoden as a specialist subject. Its definitely a poo poo question for University Challenge.

Nah :grin:

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I think saying gay people can't be teachers is a bit different to not wanting to let some random come and live in your house cos they might be a wrongun.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

I got my partner a giant hoodie for Christmas and didn't notice until we were taking the tags off that it's advertised as "energy saving". Grim 😬

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
This label written by black mold crew.

Fatty
Sep 13, 2004
Not really fat

The point of University Challenge is that most questions have at least something to cling to. Like really complicated bonus rounds on science often have a clue where they share the first three letters. That along with minor knowledge of the subject and a basic grasp of latin or history will often allow teams of four to dig out at least one answer from the back of their mind. Similarly the art questions can at least be guessed at with very common knowledge, if its a round on romantic poets, just answer Yeats for every question and you'll probably score some points.

Name a minor character from an obscure game is either you know it or you don't.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
also no-one on the team is going to have spent several years doing Obscure Video Game Studies

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
I remember University Challenge used to be a target of jokes in Northern Ireland back in the 70s and 80s, the joke being the questions were too 'mainland' based.
Who was the King's butt cleaner in 1632? What happened during the annual cheese farting festival in Peckindale Upon Symth in 1854?

Albinator
Mar 31, 2010

Julio Cruz posted:

also no-one on the team is going to have spent several years doing Obscure Video Game Studies
Well that's just a team selection failure. I can guarantee there are several people at each uni who are doing extremely in-depth studies of video games.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

happyhippy posted:

Who was the King's butt cleaner in 1632? What happened during the annual cheese farting festival in Peckindale Upon Symth in 1854?
Sir Francis Windebank
The mayor was knocked over by a stolen cheese.

Fatty
Sep 13, 2004
Not really fat

happyhippy posted:

I remember University Challenge used to be a target of jokes in Northern Ireland back in the 70s and 80s, the joke being the questions were too 'mainland' based.
Who was the King's butt cleaner in 1632? What happened during the annual cheese farting festival in Peckindale Upon Symth in 1854?

I genuinely wonder whether the questions may have shifted in recognition of BLM. It feels like there are very frequent bonus rounds on black cinema or black artists in particular. Maybe it was always there and I'm just noticing it more.

Nothing to do with Norn Ireland of course, I just think the question writers are quite aware of current politics.

frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?
I'm guessing you have to be something of a nerd to get chosen for University Challenge so them not knowing video game trivia seems a bit surprising.

Fatty
Sep 13, 2004
Not really fat
Specifically, this whole conversation was prompted by the Christmas celebrity version. It's both easier than the standard series and has a very different type of contestant.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


frytechnician posted:

I'm guessing you have to be something of a nerd to get chosen for University Challenge so them not knowing video game trivia seems a bit surprising.

Most universities have a quiz to select their team, the producers of the show send out an audition test for free to universities who want to take part

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

happyhippy posted:

I remember University Challenge used to be a target of jokes in Northern Ireland back in the 70s and 80s, the joke being the questions were too 'mainland' based.
Who was the King's butt cleaner in 1632? What happened during the annual cheese farting festival in Peckindale Upon Symth in 1854?

My NI wife is going on The Chase next year and I’m concerned about her lack of knowledge on this sort of stuff, and Charles Dickens in particular, as they seem obsessed with questions like “which novel features Mrs Mingewicket and Sethington Pecksniff?”

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

smellmycheese posted:

My NI wife is going on The Chase next year and I’m concerned about her lack of knowledge on this sort of stuff, and Charles Dickens in particular, as they seem obsessed with questions like “which novel features Mrs Mingewicket and Sethington Pecksniff?”

Ah good luck to her!
How the gently caress does getting on those shows work anyway, just apply? Any prelim rounds to see if you are smart enough or anything?

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Just went shop and glanced at the front pages.

Anyway, thanks to Ms Adequate I can't read words properly now

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