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How many quarterbacks have actually started every game this season? I doubt you need more than one hand to count them.
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Mega64 posted:How many quarterbacks have actually started every game this season? I doubt you need more than one hand to count them. Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes Jared Goff Jordan Love Josh Allen Tua Jalen Hurts
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Dec 29, 2023 19:23
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edit: ^  ^Mega64 posted:How many quarterbacks have actually started every game this season? I doubt you need more than one hand to count them.
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Dec 29, 2023 19:25
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lol Browns ain’t going to the Super Bowl, c’mon
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Dec 29, 2023 19:27
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Mega64 posted:How many quarterbacks have actually started every game this season? I doubt you need more than one hand to count them. Lamar Tua Josh Allen Pat Mahomes Baker Dak Goff
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Dec 29, 2023 19:27
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I need some advanced long snapping stats
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Dec 29, 2023 19:28
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CubanMissile posted:lol Browns ain’t going to the Super Bowl, c’mon In a couple weeks they will just have to win 3 games to do it and the biggest challenge of the whole thing is needing to win a game in Baltimore, a thing they've already done once this year. I certainly wouldn't bet money on it, but there really is a chance, especially if Flacco keeps putting up 300+ yards a game and they get to rest up a lot of these injured guys week 18 since they've clinched #5.
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kalensc posted:Buffalo can miss the playoffs at 10-7, they'll be playing starters at Miami unless every Wild Card rival loses this week. It'd be PRETTY unlikely for the Bills to miss the postseason at 10-7 and there's a fairly good shot they'll have a spot sewed up if they beat the Patriots at home on Sunday. All of these let them clinch with a week to spare… 1. Win + PIT loss or tie + CIN loss or tie 2. Win + PIT loss or tie + JAX loss or tie 3. Win + PIT loss or tie + HOU loss or tie + IND loss or tie 4. Win + CIN loss or tie + JAX loss or tie 5. Win + CIN loss or tie + HOU loss or tie + IND loss or tie This week has PIT @ SEA, CIN @ KC, JAX (without Lawrence) vs CAR, LV @ IND, TEN @ HOU.
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Dec 29, 2023 19:34
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Black Sunshine posted:Every non-QB is just someone not good enough to play the most important position therefore they all suck and the Hall of Fame should be QB only. No grandfather clause bullshit, take Jerry Rice's bust and melt that fucker down because he wasn't good enough to be a quarterback. LT is safe
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Dec 29, 2023 19:37
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Woozie66 posted:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1740793903392182621?t=yxAxUsKvIncdyB9VPW-VzA&s=19 I absolutely refuse to monitor this, and you can't make me
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Black Sunshine posted:Every non-QB is just someone not good enough to play the most important position therefore they all suck and the Hall of Fame should be QB only. No grandfather clause bullshit, take Jerry Rice's bust and melt that fucker down because he wasn't good enough to be a quarterback. Completely disingenuous to my argument. Returners are one of the only positions that people graduate from besides guard to tackle. You can't look at the careers of Steve Smith Jr. or Odell Beckham or any other returner that was put into offense instead and ignore that. Hester wasn't that great. He was from your nostalgia era.
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HootTheOwl posted:LT is safe Correct, Tomlinson threw a bunch of TD passes and has a great passer rating
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Defenders don't count in that scenario because they hate QBs and would never be one.
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Black Sunshine posted:Every non-QB is just someone not good enough to play the most important position therefore they all suck and the Hall of Fame should be QB only. No grandfather clause bullshit, take Jerry Rice's bust and melt that fucker down because he wasn't good enough to be a quarterback.
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wilderthanmild posted:In a couple weeks they will just have to win 3 games to do it and the biggest challenge of the whole thing is needing to win a game in Baltimore, a thing they've already done once this year. Yeah. Cleveland and LA are the two hot teams that have a shot along with the typical contenders. The AFC playoffs are good as hell. Ravens, Bills, Browns, Dolphins, Chiefs, and healthy Texans(if we ever see that again) are all good enough to beat one another up. None of those teams are totally dominant. Ravens are closest, but the injuries on offense are going to bring some inconsistency, especially to the run game.
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Black Sunshine posted:Every non-QB is just someone not good enough to play the most important position therefore they all suck and the Hall of Fame should be QB only. No grandfather clause bullshit, take Jerry Rice's bust and melt that fucker down because he wasn't good enough to be a quarterback. Now this is how you build a more rational Hall of Fame
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Hester also wasn't like terrible at reciever on the whole, he was just bad at like being the X. Which is what the Bears p much had him playing because they neglected to ever try and upgrade at the WR position. Should have never been anything more than a gadget or 3rd or 4th reciever who's dangerous enough with the ball in his hand and fast enough that you have to respect him. But yeah, lmao he was going up against number 1 corners and yeah, his route running and refinement never got good enough to reliably beat that. Dexo fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Dec 29, 2023 |
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Dexo posted:Hester also wasn't like terrible at reciever on the whole, he was just bad at like being the X. Which is what the Bears p much had him playing because they neglected to ever try and upgrade at the WR position. Should have had him solely doing Go routes and giving him the odd wide receiver screen or end around.
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Mike N Eich posted:a Browns - Lions Super Bowl would own because: It would be two of the most storied franchises meeting (and I believe neither of them have been to a Super Bowl?) and a Cleveland-Detroit playing is peak Midwest supremacy. God bless. Do not forget our beloved Rust Belt!! Counterpoint : One of those teams would get to their first ever Superbowl and then be beaten by the Browns or Lions
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Doltos posted:Completely disingenuous to my argument. Returners are one of the only positions that people graduate from besides guard to tackle. You can't look at the careers of Steve Smith Jr. or Odell Beckham or any other returner that was put into offense instead and ignore that. “sure he was the best ever at this thing but he wasn’t good at this different thing!”
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Put him in the Madden Hall of Fame and just be done with it
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Hester was amazing but i don't think returners should be in the HoF, if you think they do then yea makes sense to put Hester in. Just coming back to this and obviously I'm biased but Steve Smith as well. Steve Smith was 1st team all pro his rookie year as a returner, then began transitioning away in 2002 but still did very well. He was also one of the best wide receivers of his era, won the triple crown in 2005 on a team where the 2nd leading receiver was a running back, murdered teams in high stakes games and situations, and talked massive poo poo the entire time. And of course in the Seattle playoff game in 2005, smith demanded to return a punt because he was being triple teamed, and he housed it the refs were right to pick up the flag Hester gets in behind Steve Smith. Also smith did this at like 36 years old. skip to 1:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tru3SE0Hzu0&t=105s edit* just watch the whole thing. 2nd play is him breaking like six tackles against the texans for a TD in a game the Panthers were down 4 scores. lmao this also has the play where he caught a pass at the 3, was hit so hard he broke his arm, and still got into the end zone. FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Dec 29, 2023 |
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AndrewP posted:“sure he was the best ever at this thing but he wasn’t good at this different thing!” It implies that if other great players returned kicks and punts you wouldn't even remember Hester
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I already wouldn't remember Hester if it wasn't for this thread
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Football HoF should be treated like the Rock and Roll HoF, i.e. put everyone cool in even if they aren't really Rock and Roll.
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Pepperidge Farm remembers
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Basically Dolly Parton should be inducted into the Football Hall of Fame.
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The only solution is to boot special teamers from the hall and ban kicking
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Ches Neckbeard posted:The only solution is to boot special teamers from the hall and ban kicking We can finally get feet out of the game and just call it ball
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No one should be in the Hall because in an alternate history someone else may have been better at the thing they were great at
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Doltos posted:Completely disingenuous to my argument. Returners are one of the only positions that people graduate from besides guard to tackle. You can't look at the careers of Steve Smith Jr. or Odell Beckham or any other returner that was put into offense instead and ignore that. Another argument against Jahri Evans getting in the Hall!
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Papercut posted:We can finally get feet out of the game and just call it ball 
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Whenever I think about kick returns I think about how Leon Washington single handedly beat the chargers with two kick returns for TDs https://youtu.be/WgrIFZqRYeM?si=TnU_vIrm3m22o24T
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They need to make a new Modern Era NFL HoF so these coddled fancy boy players of today aren't disrespectfully enshrined next to players who earned their way getting the crap beat out of them.
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Can we stop it with the off-season chat? I know the Giants and Bears are long dead, but we have genuinely exciting playoffs around the corner. And two games that may determine the 1 seeds this week! If the Lions win out and the Niners lose to the Rams next week, they have homefield through the playoffs. Do the Lions at home have enough to beat a visiting 49ers?
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Lions are a loving lock to beat Dallas. SF’s offensive line is very sus without Trent Williams, them @ Detroit could be a very fun game AndrewP fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Dec 29, 2023 |
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The Lions simply winning a playoff game would match their greatest achievement in the Super Bowl era. Bonus points if it's somehow against the Cowboys again (dunno if the seeding makes it possible but gently caress it).
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Can we stop it with the off-season chat? I know the Giants and Bears are long dead, but we have genuinely exciting playoffs around the corner. And two games that may determine the 1 seeds this week! The HoF list literally came out this week. It's perfectly on topic. Stop trying to backseat mod and bring up another topic if you're sick of this one
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If we want to talk about both current football and the Hall of Fame, we could simply talk about future Hall of Famer Joe Flacco.
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Mega64 posted:If we want to talk about both current football and the Hall of Fame, we could simply talk about future Hall of Famer Joe Flacco. I hear he is cool and good.
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