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Flikken posted:Its doable with a post june 1st trade. If that happens its 18 mil in dead money in 2024 and 45 mil in dead money in 2025 Not sure that's right friend.  Y'all are stuck with him for a while. E: NVM, I thought you were talking about cutting him.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Not sure that's right friend. Cutting him is impossible but a post june 1st trade is painful but doable. I just can't think of a team that could absorb that, plus i think he has a no trade clause anyway.
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Flikken posted:Cutting him is impossible but a post june 1st trade is painful but doable. I just can't think of a team that could absorb that, plus i think he has a no trade clause anyway. Maybe if we combined it with eating some portion of his salary? Still doesn't seem likely, yeah.
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It would be funny to see a Bucs > Browns Super Bowl, especially since I think most non-lovely Browns fans would be cool with Baker getting a ring over Watson.
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It's pretty funny that the guy who did the Russ trade with the Seahawks, gave him that insane extension and hired Hackett as HC is still in the Broncos' building.
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mcmagic posted:It's pretty funny that the guy who did the Russ trade with the Seahawks, gave him that insane extension and hired Hackett as HC is still in the Broncos' building. It's amazing that last season only two GMs were fired, and neither were him.
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Flikken posted:Cutting him is impossible but a post june 1st trade is painful but doable. I just can't think of a team that could absorb that, plus i think he has a no trade clause anyway. Theoretically the Commanders could be a fit if they were going to trade and dump just to eat the cap hit, they have a lot of cap space, traded away two former first round picks they weren't going to extend anyway and will probably blow the front office and coaching staff up completely the day the season ends. If they traded for him they could realistically run him as a bridge QB for 24 and cut him for 2025. They'd have to eat the hit in 2025 but I wouldn't think a 2nd rounder or something like a 2nd and change for a player and later round pick swap could get it done. I don't see any other teams with their level of cap space and a dearth of talent up for a contract renewal. The problem is, really - you'd be wanting a first or more for that kind of hit and the more I think on it, probably a front line player, a first and some late round picks. I just don't know if the org given its awful reputation would want the bad press either. You're also very much putting your team in position to be functionally cap hosed for 2024 and severely hamstrung for 2025 without the likelihood of any meaningful production and potential fan backlash. They'd be taking on a problem they were obviously trying to avoid with Young and Sweat - paying a guy to perform below replacement level on a team without the talent to allow them to shine. I realistically think the Browns are stuck with him for at least another 2 and maybe 3 seasons. There's literally no way out that I can see that isn't a poison pill. You have to kinda remember Osweiller's cap hit in the trade was only something like 16 million dollars because the Browns didn't take on the whole thing. I know contracts and the cap have increased since then, but it was functionally a 2nd rounder to take on half of the guaranteed salary he was owed at the time. How do you define nearly 4 times that value in todays market with picks being so valuable? Also the best case scenario for a super bowl would be for Tampa to beat the Browns because Baker giving a big gently caress you to the Haslam's on the biggest stage would be an all time moment. BlindSite fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Dec 30, 2023 |
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About 6-7 teams could eat that much cap space but like you'd have to trade away first round picks to have someone eat _that_ much cap and uh the browns don't have any
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I'm already so loving sick of the Harbaugh to the Chargers rumors. I know it isn't happening, everyone knows it isn't happening, I wish he'd just sign his goddamn Michigan extension and we can sign Dan Quinn or Brian Flores like I know we will. On the off chance that we DO get Harbaugh, I'm gonna get real obnoxious
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a neat cape posted:On the off chance that we DO get Harbaugh, I'm gonna get real obnoxious Considering the poo poo you've had to endure the past few years, I'd say you've earned it.
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Nodoze posted:Bucs getting one with Baker would be great content 
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Call me crazy but I think the Commanders should just draft and develop a QB instead of chasing washed-up vets
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Benne posted:Call me crazy but I think the Commanders should just draft and develop a QB instead of chasing washed-up vets Depends who the coach is but drafting a QB to sit for a year or two behind Watson or even Russ if they can get them on the cheap isn't the worst idea in the world.
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Benne posted:Call me crazy but I think the Commanders should just draft and develop a QB instead of chasing washed-up vets They should double down on the wolf man (awhoo)
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Benne posted:Call me crazy but I think the Commanders should just draft and develop a QB instead of chasing washed-up vets Absolutely but I did mention Watson being a trade candidate solely to dump him and eat the hit and or to use him solely as a bridge QB. I wasn't suggesting the commies trade for him to be the presumptive starter for the next 3 years.
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Benne posted:Call me crazy but I think the Commanders should just draft and develop a QB instead of chasing washed-up vets Colts probably wish they took your advice years ago.
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biceps crimes posted:everyone in the jets organization needs to go, especially when you look at what the browns organization has done this year biceps crimes posted:im rooting for joe flacco and then i will hate the browns next year when watson is back again  on botha neat cape posted:I'm already so loving sick of the Harbaugh to the Chargers rumors. I know it isn't happening, everyone knows it isn't happening, I wish he'd just sign his goddamn Michigan extension and we can sign Dan Quinn or Brian Flores like I know we will. His extension is reliant on him not considering the league. Given how he can't stop cheating and how the NCAA won't stop pursuing punishment as long as he does, I don't see him signing anything with language saying he can't consider moving on to a place that will let him get away with it Regarding the Chargers, I just hope whoever's there next either gives Herbert stability and help, or lets him move on to a place where he'll actually have that and a chance at playoff success LaDainian Tomlinson saw 3 head coaches in SD and got as many playoff wins in that time as he did from 1 year of NY with Rex Ryan. Herbert's already on coach 3, in under half the time
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Lol no one is loving taking on Watsons contract. Browns are hosed for the next couple years and they better hope they can win this year.
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Every time I see those loving contact numbers I have to go and re-read them slowly because they never seem real. Just an absolute abomination. BlindSite posted:Also the best case scenario for a super bowl would be for Tampa to beat the Browns because Baker giving a big gently caress you to the Haslam's on the biggest stage would be an all time moment.
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The no NFL clause in the contract extension only covers the 2024 season so it’s literally just a “don’t sign this and immediately leave” clause. He could still cheat his rear end off next year and then bounce before the punishment comes down.
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Gully Foyle posted:Lol no one is loving taking on Watsons contract. Browns are hosed for the next couple years and they better hope they can win this year. Read that as Wilson at first. No one is taking on that contract either. Broncos may be less screwed than the Browns however.
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Look at all these teams that are spending huge portions of their cap on dead money and guys who aren't playing like the Browns and Rams putting decent to good products on the field....
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Hizawk posted:Turns out the salary cap doesn't matter if you have good coaches and players. Been saying this.
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Hizawk posted:the salary cap doesn't matter
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Hizawk posted:good coaches We were talking about the Jets tho
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Hizawk posted:Turns out the salary cap doesn't matter if you have good coaches and players. It's another resource to be used in team building just like draft picks. I mean yeah the rams are great right now but they got lucky and good finding puka and kyren in the low rounds.of the draft. The Packers offense is running the youngest and cheapest receiving corps the NFL has ever seen and it's fine. Otoh look at the chiefs. They can't afford wrs and welp
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adaz posted:It's another resource to be used in team building just like draft picks. The Chiefs COULD afford WRs they just chose to prioritize spending on defense and cap flexibility over tying up future money in WRs. They thought they could get away with it because, well, they did get away with it last year. Cap space is a resource but it’s a much less valuable resource than drafting well and coaching well. You can’t afford to buy a decent team, you pay way too much for FAs so the backbone of the team HAS to be homegrown players on rookie deals or team friendly contracts. If you can’t build a team that way all the cap space in the world won’t help you and if you can build a team that way then cap issues will never be debilitating. Cap space is always going to provide a marginal return. Sometimes that margin is the difference between playoffs or not or Super Bowl or not, but it’s never the difference between good team and bad team.
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Still not sure why the Chiefs traded Smith-Marsette to Carolina. Obviously he's not setting the world on fire with Lil Brudder hucking up blimps, but he's looked the part whenever he's got the ball in his hands. I'd way rather put him out there than most of the trash the Chiefs are right now.
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FizFashizzle posted:Still not sure why the Chiefs traded Smith-Marsette to Carolina. From everything I've heard the guy has been a really, really hard worker in Carolina. Also from the looks of things he's been moved on by teams twice after they've acquired former first round busts. The vikings waived him when they picked up Reagor and then moved on because the chiefs wanted to use Toney in that specialised role. I guess ISM got a ring with the chiefs so he's already ticked that off the bucket list but still. Either way it seems like he's been pretty badly under utilised in his career until now.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The Chiefs COULD afford WRs they just chose to prioritize spending on defense and cap flexibility over tying up future money in WRs. They thought they could get away with it because, well, they did get away with it last year. Historically Andy Reid has never cared much about getting decent receivers. Are you a fast guy with stone hands? Perfect ideal Reid receiver.
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FizFashizzle posted:im so sorry bears fans (im not)
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:What happened now? Eberflus is coming back (if he wins the final two games of the season).
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Among Schefter's weekly Saturday night news bombs: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1741331044647731526 I have no idea what to make of this so let's just go with Harbs to the Chargers confirmed SKULL.GIF posted:Eberflus is coming back (if he wins the final two games of the season). I was gonna say lol at looking at the last 2 years of Bears football and thinking "we gotta have more of this". But at this point it's like McDonalds. It may not be good but at least it's familiar Docjowles fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Dec 31, 2023 |
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asking the fans. would you accept a team name change to the los angeles harbers in exchange for the services of jim harbaugh. it would be considered "harbors" for the purposes of imagery but very legally distinct
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