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Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Devils Affricate posted:

Actually I guess I lied a bit about 100%'ing the game. I did everything except for finding all the sparklies that you just chase around, because those didn't even strike me as being puzzles, just a weird waste of time (and they aren't even represented on the map, so they don't count :colbert:). I also hate scavenging around for tiny hidden poo poo. Thankfully there are only 8 of them and I got half of them just from randomly exploring. Not sure why you don't like the switch meta puzzles though, since those are legitimate puzzles, albeit of a very different style than the main ones.

I think I had a bit more tolerance for all the running around than I normally do just because the levels are designed so beautifully. If the environments were like those in a realistic shooter or some cartoony poo poo I probably would have lost interest/patience pretty quickly.

The ratio of puzzle to walking is not in favor of the puzzle part for Pandora/Sphinx/Prometheus. Pandora seems the most interesting, but it was like interesting once in the first Talos Principle so I smartly didn't do those. I didn't really do any of the statue puzzles besides a bit that I happened to run into.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Dec 30, 2023

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Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Braid and The Witness are boring rear end games. The only good thing about Braid is the idea of Jonathon Blow getting legitimately butthurt at the Soulja Boy video.

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

The Looker is good even if I did fail a maze and spend way too much time trying to figure out what to do next and eventually looking it up.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
Probation
Can't post for 12 minutes!
I spent a few years with my ex building together a Rock Band 3 setup with the sole purpose of recreating the joy I had in the 2000s. It culminated when her friend Chad gave me his Rock Band instruments and then I spent a ton of dough on Rock Back 3 DLC and was finally ready to revisit my youth from the 2000s but then my ex left me for Chad and took the Rock Band setup and now I have nothing

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

IIRC there's a denuvo virtual machine that runs on bytecode and part of ripping it out involves scanning through the entire executable for certain byte signatures which might be opcodes for the denuvo VM or might be unrelated constants in memory and manually figuring out which is which.
Pretty much this. I spent some time in the 2000s looking at Syncrosoft since this was the protection used for DAWs like Cubase. Their SDK basically allowed you to write (using heavy use of C++ operator overloading) regular logic with integers and booleans and so on, but it would compile that logic into an immense state machine that relied on data being passed to and from dongles etc.

I'm fairly sure Denovo is an updated version of that, although I think they work on the actual binary instead of doing it at the source code level. They profile your application, determine which parts aren't performance critical, and obfuscate the hell out of it.

It's vastly different from Commodore 64 era protections, which were usually very bespoke and handmade.

Writing an automatic Denuvo remover would be a nice exercise, though. Don't expect to be able to remove it manually, though.

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad

Duck and Cover posted:

The ratio of puzzle to walking is not in favor of the puzzle part for Pandora/Sphinx/Prometheus. Pandora seems the most interesting, but it was like interesting once in the first Talos Principle so I smartly didn't do those. I didn't really do any of the statue puzzles besides a bit that I happened to run into.

But, wait, does that mean you didn't do the golden gate puzzles? I thought you had to do all of the Pandora /Sphynx / prometheus puzzles to unlock those? I think Devils Affricate meant not finding the fires of prometheus, which are totally pointless little bonuses that let you skip a level.

!Klams fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Dec 30, 2023

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Sagacity posted:

Pretty much this. I spent some time in the 2000s looking at Syncrosoft since this was the protection used for DAWs like Cubase. Their SDK basically allowed you to write (using heavy use of C++ operator overloading) regular logic with integers and booleans and so on, but it would compile that logic into an immense state machine that relied on data being passed to and from dongles etc.

I'm fairly sure Denovo is an updated version of that, although I think they work on the actual binary instead of doing it at the source code level. They profile your application, determine which parts aren't performance critical, and obfuscate the hell out of it.

It's vastly different from Commodore 64 era protections, which were usually very bespoke and handmade.

Writing an automatic Denuvo remover would be a nice exercise, though. Don't expect to be able to remove it manually, though.

from what i gather denuvo has an especially rude twist in that it generates multiple branching paths through the obfuscated code which are selected based on the value of CPUID, so a crack that works on one machine might still crash on another with a different CPU model

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005

Vampire Panties posted:

I support your cracking endeavor only if you include the most bitching MIDI tunes possible

I legit miss that demoscene music

Cosmik Debris
Sep 12, 2006

The idea of a place being called "Chuck's Suck & Fuck" is, first of all, a little hard to believe
People stopped cracking games because they were all eastern Europeans and they all ended up getting hired by the mafia or Russian security services instead of getting drafted for the war.

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

I legit miss that demoscene music

http://chiptune.com/

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Sonic be steady.

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

I got my little nephew playing mystic quest and I think that game is underrated.

Yes its easy af and basically on rails but it's totally charming, polished with great art and the music is :hellyeah:

Plus the sprites changing appearance once they're low on life had us both cracking up, more games should have aped that.

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

QuarkJets posted:

remembering that Steam is the storefront where while looking for new games you'll occasionally get flashed with a picture of a cartoon cock sliding into an anime girl's rear end in a top hat if you don't have your profile set up just right.

I wish more storefronts were like this. Imagine how much better buying health insurance would be.

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

QuarkJets posted:

Valve apparently has a monopoly on people with the skills required to create a digital storefront with a passing grade for UX, and I say this while remembering that Steam is the storefront where while looking for new games you'll occasionally get flashed with a picture of a cartoon cock sliding into an anime girl's rear end in a top hat if you don't have your profile set up just right.

You should probably update you're setting to omit that content?

They added granularity to their filters so it's not on and off and Witcher 3 isn't in the same jacket as Kawaii Butt Jockey Simulator 3. You can filter the porn out now.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
I don't think there has ever been a more unexciting and uninspiring name for a videogame than "Alan Wake", note i'm not attacking the game at all, I love horror games and I've probably seen less than 20 seconds of footage but "Alan Wake" - c'mon it'd take some doing to make a more boring title than that

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

especially coming from their previous game and protagonist, Max Payne

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

i can't even remember the quantum break dudes name so that was probably a step down

Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.

Caesar Saladin posted:

especially coming from their previous game and protagonist, Max Payne

Holy poo poo, I just got this right now.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
I was reading about DS2 and found that there is no way to play it on PS4/5. That is only the Scholar version. I thought that just meant it was the complete version but no, it's apparently a completely hosed up version and there is no way to play actual DS2 on modern PS's. What about on a Series X? Is that doable? Is there a version that has all the DLC?

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
What is still great is Sony's take on gaming.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



Alan Wake is the name of a man who owns a successful car dealership and has six kids, all of them sons, and all of them are in every commercial

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
Probation
Can't post for 12 minutes!

JollyBoyJohn posted:

I don't think there has ever been a more unexciting and uninspiring name for a videogame than "Alan Wake", note i'm not attacking the game at all, I love horror games and I've probably seen less than 20 seconds of footage but "Alan Wake" - c'mon it'd take some doing to make a more boring title than that

But his name is A. Wake

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

credburn posted:

But his name is A. Wake

aw gently caress is that seriously it? I never thought of that, because its kinda dumb.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

is it really that dumb if it took you nearly a decade and a half to figure it out

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

listen man, i didn't say I wasn't dumb, both can be true

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

JollyBoyJohn posted:

I don't think there has ever been a more unexciting and uninspiring name for a videogame than "Alan Wake", note i'm not attacking the game at all, I love horror games and I've probably seen less than 20 seconds of footage but "Alan Wake" - c'mon it'd take some doing to make a more boring title than that

Absolutely. I never even have the game a second thought until it showed up in Control

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

!Klams posted:

But, wait, does that mean you didn't do the golden gate puzzles? I thought you had to do all of the Pandora /Sphynx / prometheus puzzles to unlock those? I think Devils Affricate meant not finding the fires of prometheus, which are totally pointless little bonuses that let you skip a level.

You just have complete all of the numbered + "hidden" puzzles to open the gates, statues are optional. I did do the gate puzzles without the gate puzzles my rating of the main puzzle part of the game probably goes to like a 6 or something maybe lower. The game has just too many easy puzzles that you spend too much time walking to.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Dec 30, 2023

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Waltzing Along posted:

I was reading about DS2 and found that there is no way to play it on PS4/5. That is only the Scholar version. I thought that just meant it was the complete version but no, it's apparently a completely hosed up version and there is no way to play actual DS2 on modern PS's. What about on a Series X? Is that doable? Is there a version that has all the DLC?

Scholar version is fine. It just shuffles around some enemy placement in levels, plus it comes with all three dlc expansions.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

Scholar version is fine. It just shuffles around some enemy placement in levels, plus it comes with all three dlc expansions.

I think calling it "completely hosed up" is way overstating it but some of the changes like Iron Keep are legit pretty bad. Every Souls game has some poo poo areas though :shrug:

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Ravus Ursus posted:

You should probably update you're setting to omit that content?

They added granularity to their filters so it's not on and off and Witcher 3 isn't in the same jacket as Kawaii Butt Jockey Simulator 3. You can filter the porn out now.

I don't mind the porn, I'm only bringing it up to highlight flaws in the exploration algorithm. It's surprising how easily the algorithm draws a line toward hardcore cartoon pornography from "games similar to Civilization 5"

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Waltzing Along posted:

I was reading about DS2 and found that there is no way to play it on PS4/5. That is only the Scholar version. I thought that just meant it was the complete version but no, it's apparently a completely hosed up version and there is no way to play actual DS2 on modern PS's. What about on a Series X? Is that doable? Is there a version that has all the DLC?

Scholars isn't hosed up, it's a GOTY edition with all of the DLC, some extra stuff, and a balance pass. Honestly it's the better version of the game, they finished some content that wasn't quite ready for the original release, the new things are pretty cool

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

JollyBoyJohn posted:

I don't think there has ever been a more unexciting and uninspiring name for a videogame than "Alan Wake", note i'm not attacking the game at all, I love horror games and I've probably seen less than 20 seconds of footage but "Alan Wake" - c'mon it'd take some doing to make a more boring title than that

Apologies to any Alans out there, but I can't think of a duller forename. It might as well be called Steve Wake or Keith Wake.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

QuarkJets posted:

I don't mind the porn, I'm only bringing it up to highlight flaws in the exploration algorithm. It's surprising how easily the algorithm draws a line toward hardcore cartoon pornography from "games similar to Civilization 5"

Recommendation algorithms suck in general these days because it's all "people who played this thing also played this other thing" and ignore the fact that the two weren't related. So when part of the algorithm is something insanely popular that everyone has played like Civ V you're going to get all kinds of weird recs. "You played civ V so you will love The Witcher!!"

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
The last boss of metal gear 2 sucks. This is Hideous Kojima's idea of a final boss fight? You just run from door to door with keycards while this idiot vaguely chases you while firing intermittently until you get the spray can and lighter. Just bad game design, imo.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



first mistake is thinking Kojima has any talent

Private Cumshoe
Feb 15, 2019

AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

deep dish peat moss posted:

Recommendation algorithms suck in general these days because it's all "people who played this thing also played this other thing" and ignore the fact that the two weren't related. So when part of the algorithm is something insanely popular that everyone has played like Civ V you're going to get all kinds of weird recs. "You played civ V so you will love The Witcher!!"

I just want it to once, for loving once, call me gay cowards!!

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
Probation
Can't post for 12 minutes!

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

first mistake is thinking Kojima has any talent

Sir if this weren't the unpopular opinions thread I'd ask you to step outside and speak your utter nonsense to the cats.

And see if the cats tolerate such horsehockey.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Zeluth posted:

What is still great is Sony's take on gaming.

They have little regard for their legacy/game history/backwards compatibility.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

tbf that's more a knock-on effect of their obsession with bizarre hardware architectures back in the day

they've maintained backwards compatibility since they switched to a more standard architecture

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syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Alan Wake isn't meant to be an exciting or outrageous name. It's meant to be a regular rear end name and author would have, because he's an author, not a Stallone commando character.

It is a boring name, and I feel like some of you have 80s movie name conventions burned in your brain. In Control the main character is Jesse Faden, which is also a boring and normal name. It just might be intentional.

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