The US will lose WW3

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BearsBearsBears: Aug 4, 2022

DancingShade posted:

(puts on top hat and monocle, swirls brandy)

Rather that re-introduce school lunches to combat malnutrition during an enlistment shortfall crisis and thus spend good money on those filthy disgusting poors I suggest we simply re-introduce cannibalism as the solution, so long as they only eat other poor people of course.

I have a modest proposal that you may be interested in.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 03:17

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# ? May 23, 2024 18:04

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

Bringing the space chat back to how the US will lose ww3, I could definitely see a future in which a pressured US, having failed in every other military domain, goes to Elmo for some non-nuclear wunderwaffe WMDs

# ? Dec 30, 2023 03:23

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

The loss of saturn 5 rocket technology despite having all the schematics and notes on hand should be a good indicator for what will happen.

All the technology and such for modern and near future USA cutting edge stuff will technically be on hand but nobody will be able to assemble all the pieces into a new humpty dumpty. Certainly not with abbreviated supply chains, at least not unless it becomes a national priority and even then...?

Especially as practically everything will be proprietary this or copyright that. Intellectual property of musk's pet cat whose paw print is needed to authorise derivative works. You get the idea. 3D printing only helps so much but if most of the domestic USA machine shops close up in the next decade or so (as I understand they have a very serious lack of apprentices) then those printers better start improving a lot.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 03:34

Palladium: May 8, 2012; Very Good
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skooma512 posted:

School lunch programs were introduced because they noticed that guys showing up for service for WW2 were malnourished.

and they are having problems feeding 1/4 of troops

# ? Dec 30, 2023 03:39

skooma512: Feb 8, 2012; You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Palladium posted:

and they are having problems feeding 1/4 of troops

An army marches on its marginal cost optimization.

But anyway get a load of Russia their commanders just take poo poo and leave the soldiers with nothing :smug:

US commanders would never sell out their troops for a nice dacha in northern Virginia.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 03:42

GlassEye-Boy: Jul 12, 2001

DancingShade posted:

Especially as practically everything will be proprietary this or copyright that. Intellectual property of musk's pet cat whose paw print is needed to authorise derivative works. You get the idea. 3D printing only helps so much but if most of the domestic USA machine shops close up in the next decade or so (as I understand they have a very serious lack of apprentices) then those printers better start improving a lot.

Guess who leads the industry in large scale metal 3d printing.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 03:57

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

GlassEye-Boy posted:

Guess who leads the industry in large scale metal 3d printing.

Starsector.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 04:01

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GlassEye-Boy posted:

Guess who leads the industry in large scale metal 3d printing.

yemen

# ? Dec 30, 2023 04:03

BearsBearsBears: Aug 4, 2022

Here's what Energia 2 could have looked like. This conception uses Baikal-style flyback boosters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6GG8KHDjZk

# ? Dec 30, 2023 04:44

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

code:

https://twitter.com/Ignis_Rex/status/1740737839015616518

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Chinese Navy ships were able to lock on the EA-18G Growler while it was flying South of Taiwan rendering it vulnerable to attack and useless.

The EA-18G is an American carrier-based electronic warfare aircraft is a special 2-seater F/A-18F Super Hornet plane.

The electronic jamming of the EA-18G is the most advance system in the US Air Force and is meant to jam the radar and communication system of the enemy so that the F-35 and F-15 taking off from the carrier can attack them with impunity. Basically Chinese Navy is able to overcome the jamming and locked onto the plane's position and was able to intercept it and force it to leave Chinese airspace!

The US Navy attributes the failure of the EA-18G electronic warfare aircraft to the incompetence of the commander and relieved him of his duty.

Stars and Stripes: Navy relieves commander of electronic warfare squadron deployed on USS Carl Vinson in the Western Pacific

warontherocks.com: To Rule the Invisible Battlefield: The Electromagnetic Spectrum and Chinese Military Power

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The fight for electromagnetic spectrum superiority has been ongoing for over a century. The U.S. military�s domination of the spectrum has steadily declined over the past two decades. This is mainly because American defense planners and warfighters have been preoccupied with non-peer adversaries operating in a highly permissive spectrum environment. In the same timeframe, China has been making moves to strengthen its electromagnetic spectrum-enabled capabilities, and has brought itself to near parity with the United States. Five years ago, against the backdrop of broader structural reforms, the People�s Liberation Army took a major institutional step to fuse its previously disaggregated space, network, and electronic warfare elements by creating the Strategic Support Force. Washington views this as evidence of Chinese military leaders� belief that �achieving information dominance and denying adversaries the use of the electromagnetic spectrum is necessary to seize and maintain the strategic initiative in a conflict.�

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# ? Dec 30, 2023 06:13

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gradenko_2000 posted:

brought itself to near parity with the United States

we have the best EM warfare + also we can't do EM poo poo against yemeni drones = china must be worse than us

# ? Dec 30, 2023 06:27

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

Palladium posted:

we have the best EM warfare + also we can't do EM poo poo against yemeni drones = china must be worse than us

us: congress passed a $100bn stimulus package to incentivize r&d into em warfare

china: would you like to engage in a win-win mutual trade agreement with bilateral currency exchanges?

# ? Dec 30, 2023 06:53

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

gradenko_2000 posted:

code:
https://twitter.com/Ignis_Rex/status/1740737839015616518
Stars and Stripes: Navy relieves commander of electronic warfare squadron deployed on USS Carl Vinson in the Western Pacific

warontherocks.com: To Rule the Invisible Battlefield: The Electromagnetic Spectrum and Chinese Military Power

Voice of an extremely badly lip synced locally dubbed 1970s era Hong Kong kung fu flick:

"Hey Americaaan! Why you no send good plane? It almost 2024 not 2004!"

# ? Dec 30, 2023 07:13

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

So they blamed and fired the electronic warfare guy when the F18G was exposed to have old and inferior jamming equipment?

# ? Dec 30, 2023 11:08

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

palindrome posted:

I like the idea of space mineral exploitation. It's obviously out of reach and completely infeasible but it's fun to imagine spaceX moving a huge chunk of gold, platinum, or emeralds into near earth orbit. But then rather than actually land it on earth or use the material for manufacturing, it becomes a threat used to manipulate market prices on spreadsheets.

"Better keep buying gold at spot price or I'll crash the entire market by bringing in hundreds of tons of space gold!" That kind of idea.

lol that would be a sick high-level spell in some 4x/grognard game like Dominions or something. someone corners the market on gold and you start just making it rain

# ? Dec 30, 2023 11:11

atelier morgan: Mar 11, 2003; super-scientific, ultra-gay; Lipstick Apathy

stephenthinkpad posted:

So they blamed and fired the electronic warfare guy when the F18G was exposed to have old and inferior jamming equipment?

one of the many reasons the us will lose ww3 is that the blame for any military fuckup always, always goes to the lowest ranking plausible scapegoat

# ? Dec 30, 2023 11:14

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

Palladium posted:

we have the best EM warfare + also we can't do EM poo poo against yemeni drones = china must be worse than us

yeah, feels wrong to be talking about near parity when china's clearly passed burgerland awhile ago and the gap is only increasing

# ? Dec 30, 2023 11:35

Old Woman Island: Feb 21, 2011

Danann posted:

“No kid ever said, ‘I want to be born into a family that struggles,’” said Jenni Benson, president of the Nebraska State Education Association — the state’s largest teachers union. “Why would we even question that people and children deserve food?”

Lol at being the president of an education association without even knowing what country you're in.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 12:58

Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

Ardennes posted:

Basically, as the empire shrinks do to fundamental military and economic constraints, and the eventual move is going to grind up the population to extract a little more value from it. The quality of life for average people is going to go down while the media tries to scapegoat anyone it can. In reality, America is already fascist, but it is just going to be a more open form of it.

that's right

# ? Dec 30, 2023 13:28

fatelvis: Mar 21, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:

code:
https://twitter.com/Ignis_Rex/status/1740737839015616518
Stars and Stripes: Navy relieves commander of electronic warfare squadron deployed on USS Carl Vinson in the Western Pacific

warontherocks.com: To Rule the Invisible Battlefield: The Electromagnetic Spectrum and Chinese Military Power

Where is the source for the lockon - other than the Ignis guy?

Also seems like an electronic warfare plane, that is not a stealth plane getting locked on to is not a huge deal if it is not attempting to actively jam. And I don't think it would be doing that given that would be a good way to get shot down.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 13:38

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

Man theres hundreds of cases of "Losing trust in the ability to command" and it could be something as silly as not parking in the right place with a GSA. I wouldnt interpolate anything from a guy getting fired in the military.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 14:48

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

Ardennes posted:

Basically, as the empire shrinks do to fundamental military and economic constraints, and the eventual move is going to grind up the population to extract a little more value from it. The quality of life for average people is going to go down while the media tries to scapegoat anyone it can. In reality, America is already fascist, but it is just going to be a more open form of it.

Zodium posted:

that's right

Ardennes posted:

I used to post more in the econ-thread but it is so stock market/BTC centric it is a bit tough and it is just hard to talk about certain issues there.

It is a complex beast, and there are going to be a lot of moving parts and predictions can be invalidated in a second. If a Houthi missile slams into an oil tanker, it is just going to a different trajectory if it doesn't.

That said, the US does have "firepower" in terms of printing but this is in many ways being constrained by a set of factors working together. One is just the raw federal deficit which is increasing due to higher yields on bonds (as well as low taxes/high military spending etc), this is only forcing more bonds to be created (and thus dollars) in order to keep the empire running. At the same time, you have higher than average inflation due to oil prices, which is causing caused higher interest rates and yields. One one hand, inflation will eventually be controlled, but on the other hand, the damage is cumulative, especially if oil prices remain stubbornly high. Furthermore, you have on the side, less countries using the USD in terms of trade, which is innately creating less demand and thus comparatively higher rates. If the Houthis hit a tanker, for example, it would push up oil prices, making the whole thing worse.

The reason why the stock market and housing seem stubbornly high, despite the state of the country, is that they are investment vehicles for the rich, who don't care really about what is going. In the end, they are insulated and can just keep on buying stocks and houses to their hearts content. If anything the more unequal the US gets, the more housing prices and the stock market will probably squeeze the life out of the population. Also, lower oil prices + time usually mean less inflation.

In Varoufakis' book on the 2008 crisis (the Great Minotaur) he made the point that the post war world system was the US lending other countries dollars so they could buy their export surplus, while the post Nixon system is the US sucking the world's surplus value into their financial scams and fund their trade deficit that way. Which makes a lot of sense and also means those scams are load bearing. So yeah, Number can't go down or the world ends.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 14:48

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

stephenthinkpad posted:

So they blamed and fired the electronic warfare guy when the F18G was exposed to have old and inferior jamming equipment?

Sounds like he was fired for some kind of unwritten misconduct.

stripes posted:

�Navy commanding officers are held to high standards of personal and professional conduct. They are expected to uphold the highest standards of responsibility, reliability, and leadership, and the Navy holds them accountable when they fall short of those standards,� the Navy said in the Coulter announcement.

All that stuff about how EA-18Gs are useless is just an unsourced post by some person on twitter, not related to the person being relieved. The twitter user (and a few others) have posted that copypasta and then a link to a Stripes article that includes none of their claims. So basically social media clickbait being repeated by a few Twitter subscription havers to trick people who don't actually click the link and read the "source" article.

Notably, the twitter user is also talking about F-15s taking off from carriers. F-15s aren't carrier aircraft. It's just bullshit to generate twitter clicks from people who don't read sources.

E: the stripes link https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-12-22/navy-growler-squadron-commander-relieved-carl-vinson-12441615.html

Here is the link to the tweet. Also claims the US was inside Chinese sovereign airspace using electronic warfare and forced depart. Would hear something from the Chinese government themselves if that was true and the US was flying around jamming Chinese systems inside Chinese airspace.

https://x.com/Ignis_Rex/status/1740737839015616518?s=20

E: this account is something...

https://x.com/Ignis_Rex/status/1740636827797905909?s=20

mlmp08 has issued a correction as of 16:00 on Dec 30, 2023

# ? Dec 30, 2023 15:48

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crepeface posted:

lol that would be a sick high-level spell in some 4x/grognard game like Dominions or something. someone corners the market on gold and you start just making it rain

gifts from heaven but it gives -pop +income

# ? Dec 30, 2023 16:22

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

IIRC aren't pacific fleet guys who get sacked for "lack of confidence" usually involved in like smuggling or sex trafficking or selling Navy poo poo to Southeast Asian crime syndicates

remember this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Leonard_scandal

# ? Dec 30, 2023 22:00

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

found this article kinda interesting and relevant to the thread. i snipped out some of the earlier history cause it's long.
�No inventions; no innovations� A History of US Steel

www.construction-physics.com posted:

Last week US Steel announced it was being acquired by Japanese steel company Nippon Steel. The milestone gives an opportunity to look back at what once was the largest and most important company in the US (and arguably the world), and how it slowly declined. Prior to the acquisition announcement, US Steel had a market cap of around $8 billion, not even enough to put it in the Fortune 500 (it would come in at around #690, slightly below the Texas Roadhouse restaurant chain).1 Over its lifespan, the company slowly but steadily lost market share and importance. When it was formed in 1901, it was by far the largest company in the world, and produced nearly 2/3rds of American steel. Today, it makes just 12% of American steel, around a third of the steel that it made in 1955, and employs around the same number of people as online pet retailer Chewy.

How did a once mighty industrial titan fall so far? Let�s take a look.

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At the end of WWII, the American steel industry was an unchallenged juggernaut. During the war, American steel production had risen by more than a third, while the steel industries of most other countries had been nearly wiped out. By 1945, America was producing over 60% of the world�s steel. American steelmakers had the latest technology, unparalleled expertise, the largest economies of scale, and easy access to resources such as iron ore and coal. In 1945, the president of the US Steel Export Company George Wolf testified before congress that �the European steel industry is still far behind that of the United States, product, quality, and cost wise�, and that the gap was �an ever-widening one�. Japan, which would later emerge as a steel juggernaut, wasn�t even on the radar, producing just 0.56 million tons in 1946 against America�s 66 million tons. US Steel continued to dominate the industry, producing more than twice as much steel as the next largest company (Bethlehem Steel), and averaging around 30% of American steel output in the mid-1950s.

With seemingly no rivals on the horizon, American steel companies, including US Steel, became complacent. The post-war years are sometimes described as the �dodo period� of the American steel industry, as it steadily raised prices (steel prices rose at 7% annually between 1947 and 1957) and enjoyed large profits while ignoring the progress that was taking place in other parts of the world.

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The American steel industry responded to the rise of foreign producers not by trying to improve their operations, but by demanding government protection from �unfair� foreign trade practices. In 1968, steel producers in Japan and Europe, at the behest of President Lyndon Johnson, agreed to artificially restrict their steel exports to the US. This was intended to give US producers �breathing room� to modernize their facilities and improve operations, though this didn�t occur (in fact, capital investment by American steelmakers declined after the agreements). And though pressure had been temporarily removed, things were about to get much worse for US Steel and the American steel industry.

Having temporarily fended off foreign threats, American steel production continued to climb. In 1973, right around when Hyman Roth was boasting that their mafia operations were �bigger than US Steel�, America produced 137 million tons of steel, more than any other country in the world. While not the unrivaled behemoth it once was, US Steel was still the 13th largest company in the US by revenue, and the largest steelmaker in the US.

It was widely predicted that demand for steel would continue to rise, as it had for most of the 20th century. In 1972, chairman of US Steel Edwin Gott predicted that worldwide demand for steel would rise 25% by 1980. Countries around the world expanded their steelmaking capacity in anticipation.

Instead, demand for steel stagnated. Between 1973 and 1984 worldwide demand for steel was essentially flat, and in industrialized countries it declined by around 25%. Steelmakers around the world, faced with large amounts of excess capacity, were incentivized to sell steel for just above the variable costs of production, �dumping� it on foreign markets. It�s somewhat unclear if such dumping actually occurred, but steel imports to the US continued to rise through the 1970s even as overall demand dropped. And US Steel was hurt most of all - nearly all of the loss in market share to foreign steelmakers came at the expense of US Steel.

American producers once again demanded government protection from foreign competition. They filed dozens of �antidumping� cases under the Trade Act of 1974, and secured other protectionist measures such as a �trigger price mechanism� in 1978 (which prevented foreign steelmakers from selling below their total costs of production) and a new round of voluntary export restrictions in 1984.

These measures helped stave off foreign competition - steel imports declined from 26 million tons in 1984 to 17 million tons in 1989. But they couldn�t stop a threat that was emerging from within the US: the minimill.

Historically, steel had been produced in large, integrated steelworks. Iron ore would be turned into pig iron in a blast furnace, which would then be turned into steel in an open hearth or basic oxygen furnace. From there, the steel would be cast into ingots or slabs and then rolled into various shapes - wire, rods, plate, beams, sheets, and so on.

But in the late 1960s, a new type of steelmaking facility began to appear, the minimill. The minimill made steel not by processing iron ore, but by remelting scrap steel in an electric arc furnace. By eliminating the blast furnaces which turned iron ore into pig iron, minimills were not only much cheaper to build than integrated steelworks (as little as 1/10th the cost per ton of steel they produced), but they could profitably be built much smaller. And the scrap steel they required was widely available thanks to the previous transition to the BOF, which used much less scrap than the open hearth it replaced.

Because scrap steel was often contaminated with other metals such as copper that couldn�t be easily separated, minimill steel was initially lower quality than BOF steel, and minimills were only competitive in products where such quality didn�t matter, like concrete reinforcing steel. But as minimill technology improved, they began to take more and more share from large, integrated steelmakers like US Steel. Between 1974 and 1994 steelmaking capacity of integrated producers fell by more than 50%, while the capacity of minimills increased by 360%, reaching 30% of American steelmaking capacity.

Thus, by the early 1980s, US Steel was in trouble. Its market share had fallen to around 20% of the US market, and it was massively less efficient than both low-cost steelmakers abroad and increasingly capable minimills at home. Whereas for much of its history it had been one of the most profitable American steelmakers thanks to its scale, it was now one of the least profitable.

US Steel responded to these threats with bitter medicine. It cut tens of thousands of jobs and closed dozens of plants, reducing employment from 171,000 in 1979 to less than 21,000 in 1995. It divested many of its auxiliary operations like mines, warehouses, and bridge construction. It abandoned market segments like rebar and heavy structural steel where it couldn�t compete with the minimills, and instead focused on things like sheet steel products (which minimills still had trouble with), concentrating operations in a small number of large plants. By 1985, US Steel had closed more than 150 facilities, and by 1998 its steelmaking capacity was down 71% from its peak in 1973.

(US Steel was far from the only integrated producer that needed to take such drastic steps. The entire American steel industry (and indeed, the worldwide steel industry) shed hundreds of thousands of workers as it dealt with its overcapacity.)

This tough medicine worked. Productivity increased enormously, and US Steel became one of the most efficient integrated steelmakers in the world (though it still had trouble matching the productivity of the most efficient minimills).

The new, lean US Steel proved to be a scrappy competitor. As imports continued to rise (reaching 37% of US production in 1998), and minimills continued to take market share (electric arc furnaces reached 47% of US production by 2000), US Steel survived where many of its competitors didn�t. Kaiser Steel, the company that had beaten US Steel to the punch in installing BOFs, closed shop in 1983 after 18 quarters of losses. Between 1997 and 2001, 30 steel companies declared bankruptcy, including longtime rival Bethlehem Steel.

But the new, lean US Steel still continued to be a step behind on technological innovation. US Steel didn�t adopt the minimill until 2020, when it acquired a minimill company and built its own minimill in Alabama. (Minimills now produce around 25% of US Steel�s domestic output.) Companies like Nucor beat it to the punch with things like thin slab casting technology.

Today, the momentum in the American steel industry is clearly with the minimills. An ever-larger fraction of American steel is made in electric arc furnaces. Minimill company Nucor passed US Steel in production in 2015, and today is the largest steel producer in the US.

Arguably, US Steel has been a disappointment since the day it was formed. It was created as a fundamentally conservative reaction to the vicissitudes of the steel industry, and this guided its early years and shaped its culture. The economies of scale it achieved were never passed on to the consumer, and instead it used its size to bully other steelmakers and extract money from consumers. When this stopped working, it used its political influence to prevent consumers from buying low-cost foreign steel. Improving the efficiency of its operations was something it did as a last resort when left with no other options.

The company�s large size made it unwieldy to manage, and it was late to every major advance in steelmaking technology of the last 100 years, from continuous rolling to the basic oxygen furnace to the minimill. When the company did try its hand at technology innovation, it reliably made missteps. In some cases, like with continuous rolling, it gave up too early, while in other cases it spent many years unsuccessfully developing a technology. In the 1950s, for instance, it spent many years trying to develop an alternative to the BOF that blew oxygen in from the side, long after other producers had given up on the technology. And in the 1970s it tried to develop another alternative to the BOF called Q-BOP that likewise didn�t seem to pan out. As far as I can tell, no major steelmaking technology over the last century came out of US Steel.�

The US Steel of today is a far cry from the industrial giant of the 20th century. But being transformed into a lean, competitive company doesn�t seem to have changed its fundamental culture, a company that's content to be a follower, rather than a leader in technological development and pushing the industry forward.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 22:08

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

mawarannahr posted:

found this article kinda interesting and relevant to the thread. i snipped out some of the earlier history cause it's long.
�No inventions; no innovations� A History of US Steel

also the minimills are primarily located in anti-union states, while US Steel and the older steel industry was heavily unionized.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 23:07

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# ? Dec 30, 2023 23:09

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

The Oldest Man posted:

IIRC aren't pacific fleet guys who get sacked for "lack of confidence" usually involved in like smuggling or sex trafficking or selling Navy poo poo to Southeast Asian crime syndicates

remember this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Leonard_scandal

That is a common reason, yes. Or just being lovely at their job or doing some hosed up abusive thing to someone and getting caught.

# ? Dec 30, 2023 23:39

Trimson Grondag 3: Jul 1, 2007; Clapping Larry

they just got Fat Leonard back from Venezuela in a prisoner swap so hopefully we get some good stuff in the next 12 months

# ? Dec 30, 2023 23:45

oscarthewilde: May 16, 2012; I would often go there
To the tiny church there

The Oldest Man posted:

IIRC aren't pacific fleet guys who get sacked for "lack of confidence" usually involved in like smuggling or sex trafficking or selling Navy poo poo to Southeast Asian crime syndicates

remember this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Leonard_scandal

Wikipedia posted:

Allegedly in February 2007, he and other officers used MacArthur memorabilia in the commission of sex acts with prostitutes in the Manila hotel suite

hell yeah

# ? Dec 31, 2023 00:18

oscarthewilde: May 16, 2012; I would often go there
To the tiny church there

you don't wanna know what that corn cob pipe's been through

# ? Dec 31, 2023 00:21

skooma512: Feb 8, 2012; You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

quote:

The entire American steel industry (and indeed, the worldwide steel industry) shed hundreds of thousands of workers as it dealt with its overcapacity.)

Capitalism leads to overproduction and waste and violent contractions in employment? Some German guy wrote a book like that.

# ? Dec 31, 2023 00:28

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

oscarthewilde posted:

hell yeah

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# ? Dec 31, 2023 01:16

sullat: Jan 9, 2012

Trimson Grondag 3 posted:

they just got Fat Leonard back from Venezuela in a prisoner swap so hopefully we get some good stuff in the next 12 months

I thought he died in jail

# ? Dec 31, 2023 01:25

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

the Eilat longshoreman has become the maytag repairman of our times

https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1741118159262793970?s=20

e: meant to go in the other thread but works here too

Owlbear Camus has issued a correction as of 01:46 on Dec 31, 2023

# ? Dec 31, 2023 01:38

zetamind2000: Nov 6, 2007; ~~I'm an alien.~~

Owlbear Camus posted:

the Eilat longshoreman has become the maytag repairman of our times

https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1741118159262793970?s=20

e: meant to go in the other thread but works here too

bitcoin voice: put the shipping contracts on the blockchain

# ? Dec 31, 2023 01:49