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Kim Justice posted:Or you could just use livestreams to donate the money directly to the charity with no middlemen like 95% of other people in the field do, instead of setting up a middleman charity to handle the money when you don't know what the gently caress you're doing, and that's the most charitable reading of what's going on. As I have it understood, the simple person explanation is that they were letting the money sit while they did the work to setup and infinite money cheat code which required a single big chunk of money. Would need to rewatch to get all of the eetails, but that was the gist if it.
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fun hater posted:goldeneye I hate that there is a goldeneye nazi speedrunning cotiere
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Jan 1, 2024 07:43
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean yeah, obviously, but which one? the one in a slapfight with billy mitchell over donkey kong
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Jan 1, 2024 07:46
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doomrider7 posted:As I have it understood, the simple person explanation is that they were letting the money sit while they did the work to setup and infinite money cheat code which required a single big chunk of money. Would need to rewatch to get all of the eetails, but that was the gist if it. Basically, if you want to dictate how a donation is used, it usually needs to be sizeable enough that an organization wants to accept the extra accounting that has to go with it and having potential liability if the funds are not used in the prescribed way (which can get real drat specific). That is what Jirard said the ultimate aim was, now why that wasn't said during the call is odd but absentee directors in non profits is not really a rare occurrence. Charities and restaurants tend to be things people daydream about doing that most really really shouldn't.
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Jan 1, 2024 07:50
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Kosume Shezaki posted:Basically, if you want to dictate how a donation is used, it usually needs to be sizeable enough that an organization wants to accept the extra accounting that has to go with it and having potential liability if the funds are not used in the prescribed way (which can get real drat specific). That is what Jirard said the ultimate aim was, now why that wasn't said during the call is odd but absentee directors in non profits is not really a rare occurrence. Charities and restaurants tend to be things people daydream about doing that most really really shouldn't. As Moony said, don't attribute malice when stupidity will suffice. Right now I'm at another forum that's pretty much slathering ALL of the praise onto Karl and Mutahar as investigative geniuses who uncovered some dire plot. Jirard just comes off less malicious and more incompetent(or out of his depth)than anything else, but that's not what's being sold by these two. Apparently there was also some smoking gun Discord chat that proves his guilt or something.
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Jan 1, 2024 07:58
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doomrider7 posted:As Moony said, don't attribute malice when stupidity will suffice. Right now I'm at another forum that's pretty much slathering ALL of the praise onto Karl and Mutahar as investigative geniuses who uncovered some dire plot. Jirard just comes off less malicious and more incompetent(or out of his depth)than anything else, but that's not what's being sold by these two. Apparently there was also some smoking gun Discord chat that proves his guilt or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVr883oXApc
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Jan 1, 2024 08:04
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doomrider7 posted:As Moony said, don't attribute malice when stupidity will suffice. Right now I'm at another forum that's pretty much slathering ALL of the praise onto Karl and Mutahar as investigative geniuses who uncovered some dire plot. Jirard just comes off less malicious and more incompetent(or out of his depth)than anything else, but that's not what's being sold by these two. Apparently there was also some smoking gun Discord chat that proves his guilt or something. It's very bad sounding, but a lot would depend on what he actually knew vs inferred, since if he kind of left it on the backburner the actual mechanics are the crux. I have family who are defense attorneys and while that call would make them cussa blue streak, the formation of the defense would likely start with "he's goddamn idiot who didn't actually keep on top of things he should have known and caused a lot problems, but the actual legal function of the organization was never compromised."
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Jan 1, 2024 08:14
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Somebody made a transcript so THANKFULLY I don't have to watch/listen to what is ckearly an awkward as gently caress poo poo show based on what I'm reading. Kosume Shezaki posted:It's very bad sounding, but a lot would depend on what he actually knew vs inferred, since if he kind of left it on the backburner the actual mechanics are the crux. I have family who are defense attorneys and while that call would make them cussa blue streak, the formation of the defense would likely start with "he's goddamn idiot who didn't actually keep on top of things he should have known and caused a lot problems, but the actual legal function of the organization was never compromised." Yeah that's my main takeaway from this. Nothing illegal or untoward happened, but a lot of stupid poo poo happened that could have happened if Jirard paid attention to this poo poo and not been a dumbass. One question though, who the gently caress are Karl Jobst and Mutahar that they're given this weird amount of "prestige" and weight in terms of these accusations as well as their research which as Moony showed left quite a bit to be desired(it was poo poo).
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Jan 1, 2024 08:27
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Even if they were actually setting up restricted funding, the major issue is that they weren't upfront about it. Jirard made statements that heavily implied the money was already being sent to specific organizations. They even said they were a major source of funding for an organization. Even if they think the restricted donation is a better way of handling things, this is not how the donors thought the money was being used. There is also the issue of stating that they wouldn't use the donated money to fund IndieLand, but they actually were (which would have been perfectly fine if they were upfront about it). They might have legally been in the right, but that doesn't mean they were morally in the right. Also the golf tournament stuff seems a little bit suspicious. Karl Jobst and SomeOrdinaryGamer were really lovely about their research and should have consulted an expert before making such serious accusations though. I only watched SomeOrdinaryGamer's videos and it was obvious to me that they were being really sloppy. (SomeOrdinaryGamer for example didn't know that average is not the same as maximum when talking about tiltify fees).
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Jan 1, 2024 08:50
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Even if they were actually setting up restricted funding, the major issue is that they weren't upfront about it. Jirard made statements that heavily implied the money was already being sent to specific organizations. They even said they were a major source of funding for an organization. Even if they think the restricted donation is a better way of handling things, this is not how the donors thought the money was being used. There is also the issue of stating that they wouldn't use the donated money to fund IndieLand, but they actually were (which would have been perfectly fine if they were upfront about it). They might have legally been in the right, but that doesn't mean they were morally in the right. Also the golf tournament stuff seems a little bit suspicious. This I can kind of agree with and fits into the "Jirard was a dumbass and should have paid attention to this". I don't it's a morally incorrect thing or a failure of sorts, but more human error and incompetence of communication. I don't know about the IndieLand stuff, but the video implies Jirard paid out of pocket(can't quite recall is that's what he paid out of pocket for or not), but you could be right and in either case he should have communicated these things. Edit: I still want the lowdown on who these guys are that they seem to command so much seeming respect on fields that they clearly know gently caress all about(then again, thus is social media we're talking about). doomrider7 fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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Jan 1, 2024 09:05
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I think the easiest way to explain it is that Jirard failed in a way that people feel like should be illegal, or immoral, or uniquely bad, but is actually depressingly common in less good charities in the kind of way that's super depressing to actually think about
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Jan 1, 2024 09:22
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TheFlyingLlama posted:I think the easiest way to explain it is that Jirard failed in a way that people feel like should be illegal, or immoral, or uniquely bad, but is actually depressingly common in less good charities in the kind of way that's super depressing to actually think about I can kind of buy that. Also, found a thread on reddit about Moonys video and good Christ if that's actually Jobst speaking there he sounds like the biggest loving twat imaginable surrounded by the biggest yesmen possible.
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Jan 1, 2024 09:30
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Recently jobst tried to claim people are calling him a nazi because of his profile picture when instead the trust is he's often associated with right wing guys lol
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Jan 1, 2024 09:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCzKtZOgi_8 Most of what I know about Jirard came from G4TV Reboot, he's a very hard worker, but I can easily see how he'd incompetent, if he's putting on too many hats, he would screw up badly. But I was more surprised he was featured on NoClip (and I guess Frank Howley from Mega 64 works there now?)
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Jan 1, 2024 09:45
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Recently jobst tried to claim people are calling him a nazi because of his profile picture when instead the trust is he's often associated with right wing guys lol Why am I not surprised. Like a lot of his material(particularly this stuff with Jirard), just screams emotionally manipulative grifter and I don't understand how people miss that.
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Jan 1, 2024 09:46
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before he pivoted to speedrunning content karl jobst was a pick up artist and once said he was allowed to use the n word because it wasnt racist in Australia
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Jan 1, 2024 09:50
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:before he pivoted to speedrunning content karl jobst was a pick up artist and once said he was allowed to use the n word because it wasnt racist in Australia Again, not surprised. Even his profile pic and the comments on the Moon Channel threads on reddit just read like the kind of pseudo-intellectual chud speak they'd use.
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Jan 1, 2024 09:53
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He reminds me of max derrat (who I am not interested enough to investigate further) who did this very popular video of mgs2 having the most profound moment of video game history (specifically the ending speech where the AI was going to flood the Internet with trash to distract people from the real things that affect them like capitalism, politicians acting in self interest etc, which predates the invention of social media) and I thought oh this guy is a bit dumb but this video seems OK I think I will check out his library and oh why is there a huge series on Jordan Peterson lmao
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Jan 1, 2024 10:02
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:before he pivoted to speedrunning content karl jobst was a pick up artist and once said he was allowed to use the n word because it wasnt racist in Australia loving 
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Jan 1, 2024 10:10
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Karl jobst has nicknamed his viewers "absolute legends" and this sin alone immediately rendered him entirely unwatchable to me. Glad to see my instincts are right
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Jan 1, 2024 10:32
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bird. posted:Karl jobst has nicknamed his viewers "absolute legends" and this sin alone immediately rendered him entirely unwatchable to me. Glad to see my instincts are right That's very funny because the loving awful Norris Nuts are also Australian and also call their viewers "the legends". And both of them make unwatchable dreck.
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Jan 1, 2024 11:05
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Happy New Years you stupid as gently caress thread, you.
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Jan 1, 2024 11:10
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Nothing Jirard is saying now can really explain it well IMO. Not when he literally said that the money not going anywhere yet was 'not cool' in an earlier call. Though I can still give him the benefit of being Incompetent more than anything. Anyway may 2024 be better than 2023 (it wont)
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Jan 1, 2024 12:05
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Hey now, 2024's gonna be the first year without Kissinger. Who knows what other developments we might see by the end of it.
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Jan 1, 2024 12:31
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RareAcumen posted:Hey now, 2024's gonna be the first year without Kissinger. Who knows what other developments we might see by the end of it. I hope we get another dozen channels reading us the plots from comics!
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Jan 1, 2024 12:52
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:before he pivoted to speedrunning content karl jobst was a pick up artist and once said he was allowed to use the n word because it wasnt racist in Australia Speaking as an Australian .....  what the actual gently caress
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Jan 1, 2024 13:13
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Say goodbye. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DKv5H5Frt0
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Jan 1, 2024 17:11
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No idea who that is, but good for them. Edit: Videos look interesting. Will check them out.
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Jan 1, 2024 17:18
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Genthil posted:New Todd & Aaron, the year can safely end now. banger
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Jan 1, 2024 17:19
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The End of Tom
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Jan 1, 2024 17:23
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Happy he finally got to harness himself to a helicopter
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Jan 1, 2024 17:29
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Didn't ever think he'd get this big when Extra Light Pancakes first did the rounds of my computing class in school.
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Jan 1, 2024 17:30
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I can't believe I actually grew up with Tom in 10+ years. I'm glad he's still doing Lateral in the meantime. My favorite videos of his was the Game Garage when he would playtest game shows, and then recently, him overcoming his fear of Roller Coasters in something that felt like a documentary. I really hope he continues making videos in the future, even if it's limited like David Attenborough. But he deserves that break. Thank you Tom! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jybB49e1mDI Also, hey, a new Saint video dropped and you wouldn't believe who is content milling (and also, really against China for some reason)
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Jan 1, 2024 17:42
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The new British Cryptids (1974) faux documentary uses a lot of AI-generated images and deepfake interview footage and judging by the comments, 50% of the viewers didn't notice and love the video and 50% think the reliance on AI is a crime against god https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2rehpv-L2E I mostly liked the video but found the AI to be super distracting
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Jan 1, 2024 18:13
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I've never heard of Moon before (Not be be confused with the Moon Channel btw, the guy who analyzed the Karl/Completionist case) But it sounds like plagiarism is the least of his problems. Guy's basically another qanon-adjacent nutjob
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Jan 1, 2024 18:13
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can't believe tom scott is gone forever and will never make a video again i was always partial to this one though it's not part of his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZskjLq040I
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Jan 1, 2024 18:14
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SexyBlindfold posted:can't believe tom scott is gone forever and will never make a video again I liked the one he did with Jill Bearup because the backlash over it is how I learned she was a terf and stopped watching her poo poo
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Jan 1, 2024 18:22
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SexyBlindfold posted:can't believe tom scott is gone forever and will never make a video again It's not everyone who gets to play the world's oldest board game with a real life wizard Man's lucky he wasn't banished to the shadow realm
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Jan 1, 2024 18:26
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I enjoyed that he made a big deal about how he was open for sponsored videos, did I think 3 for the IOC about Winter Olympics stuff and never did one again.
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Kosume Shezaki posted:Basically, if you want to dictate how a donation is used, it usually needs to be sizeable enough that an organization wants to accept the extra accounting that has to go with it and having potential liability This is only true if you're starting a new program or specific new thing funded with the donation. Charities of the size they're dealing with almost certainly have restricted funds set up for donations of any amount for things like dementia research or what have you. Like, go to your alma mater's giving page, note how many funds are available to give to. If they were talking about needing to reach the minimum for an endowed program or something, they certainly haven't been saying it that way, and the minimum to endow number should have been part of the fundraising efforts. So yeah calling bullshit on their 'we needed to reach a minimum to make a restricted donation' claim. Sardonik fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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