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Quake has a rapid fire nailgun that shoots nine inch nails. It's fun.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Planetary has a whole monologue that's basically 'Yes' to your question. Yeah, there's an argument that Thatcherism opened a gaping wound in Britain's psyche that never got the chance to close over. Planetary was really, really good. Also all the "British Invasion" comic writers are messed up in different ways, there'd have to have been loads of different stuff in the water for that to be the cause.
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Small Soldiers has a nine inch nails reference and the German dub translated it as 14 cm nails. Nine inches is 23 cm.
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Fil5000 posted:Yeah, there's an argument that Thatcherism opened a gaping wound in Britain's psyche that never got the chance to close over. Planetary was really, really good. I'd say the Thatcher thing is definitely there for older British writers like Grant Morrison, Peter Milligan and Alan Moore or even Pat Mills, but Millar, Ennis and Ellis were all starting out in the early 90's - they were there when 2000AD tried to be a bit edgier - and it feels like they missed what those earlier writers were kicking against.
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Jan 3, 2024 11:19
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Elissimpark posted:I'd say the Thatcher thing is definitely there for older British writers like Grant Morrison, Peter Milligan and Alan Moore or even Pat Mills, but Millar, Ennis and Ellis were all starting out in the early 90's - they were there when 2000AD tried to be a bit edgier - and it feels like they missed what those earlier writers were kicking against. That's fair, I guess they grew up in that world but the violent reactions to it were over by the time they got their first writing gigs. I'd still argue that Thatcherism did irreparable harm just by shifting the Overton window to the point where the Labour party pretty much had to give up on talking about socialism and only managed to DO anything socialist at all by winning in a landslide in 97 because everyone was just loving sick of the Tories.
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Jan 3, 2024 11:26
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New Labour was just diet Thatcherism. Similarly the New Democrats (Clinton and co.) were just diet Reaganites. Surrender as a political ideology.
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FreudianSlippers posted:New Labour was just diet Thatcherism. Now that I'm older realizing American neoliberalism is still on the right of the political spectrum makes me  .Then again my knowledge of Reagan was formed by this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7FKO5DlV0
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Elissimpark posted:I'd say the Thatcher thing is definitely there for older British writers like Grant Morrison, Peter Milligan and Alan Moore or even Pat Mills, but Millar, Ennis and Ellis were all starting out in the early 90's - they were there when 2000AD tried to be a bit edgier - and it feels like they missed what those earlier writers were kicking against. The Dark Knight Returns came out in 86 and was insanely influential. It was just so different from any other mainstream comic you could find. They were all pretty much still in the "5 colour dailies" mindset when it came to art and plot. Yes, looking back, it was very silly. But it kicked off a whole new era of comics where "dark and edgy" was god.
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Jan 3, 2024 12:23
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Dark Knight was the most influential but there were already things in motion before that and comics were starting to tackle more "mature" themes. Like the 1983 series where conservative military man Green Lantern and champagne socialist Green Arrow go on a roadtrip around America and argue about politics.   Which is what I love about the Bronze Age of the 70s-80s because writers are trying to meld very silly superhero stuff with dealing with Serious Issues and darker themes but not quite going full-on into the grittiness like the 90s Dark Age. You know stuff like literal space-Jesus Adam Warlock fighting against a genocidal space-pope by travelling forwards in time and killing himself (because the space Pope is a future version of Warlock) while also having a cigar smoking troll as a sidekick.
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Jan 3, 2024 12:36
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Keromaru5 posted:So between Ellis, Ennis, and Millar, I'm left to wonder, what was in the water in the UK when these guys were in their teens? Is all this somehow Thatcher's fault? Yeah, pretty much.
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Gargamel Gibson posted:I always get Warren Ellis, Garth Ennis and Mark Millar mixed up. Where does Frank Miller fit into this? Cause he's the one I get mixed with with Mark Millar.
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Jan 3, 2024 15:31
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Frank Miller rose to prominence before Mark Millar, so I'd like to think Miller begat Millar.
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The most unbelievable thing about the later seasons of the wire isn't David Simon's Mary Sue at the newspaper, it isn't the fake serial killer plot, it's that someone working at Home Depot would be as knowledgeable and helpful as the dude in this video.
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Android Apocalypse posted:Frank Miller rose to prominence before Mark Millar, so I'd like to think Miller begat Millar. Millar does strike me as trying to copy Miller in some ways, but lacking the melodrama and noir influences that makes Frank Miller's stuff halfway interesting even when it's a train wreck.
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Android Apocalypse posted:Now that I'm older realizing American neoliberalism is still on the right of the political spectrum makes me But Phil Collins says right there that his generation will win the fight. The only Millar comic I've ever liked was Red Son but I haven't read it in years and I'm afraid now. It was a fascinating concept.
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Knowing that Millar, a grown man, wrote The Unfunnies gives me hope that any talented person can make it since that slop got published.
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I want to say I read that even Millar's wife couldn't stand the Unfunnies. Edit here is what I was thinking of. Wikipedia posted:By Millar's own account, when he gave a copy of the first issue to his wife, she read the first six pages of it, and then threw the book back at him while calling it "the most horrible thing she'd ever read in her life" as he frantically attempted to explain to her that "the crow was sucking cock for a REASON." marshmallow creep has a new favorite as of 18:53 on Jan 3, 2024 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Millar does strike me as trying to copy Miller in some ways, but lacking the melodrama and noir influences that makes Frank Miller's stuff halfway interesting even when it's a train wreck. Inspector Gesicht posted:Knowing that Millar, a grown man, wrote The Unfunnies gives me hope that any talented person can make it since that slop got published. I think the main difference between them is that Miller is generally sincere in what he writes (this is not a good thing as he appears to be a loving lunatic) and Millar is doing his best to get people to tell him how gross he is. All his stuff has a constant air of looking over his shoulder to make sure he's getting a rise out of you.
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Miller supposedly disavowed his own Batman ripoff "Holy Terror" and cooled down since, but I haven't given him the time of day to know if his work has improved.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Where does Frank Miller fit into this? Cause he's the one I get mixed with with Mark Millar. I can separate Frank Miller from those guys just fine. However, someone mentioned Grant Morrison and now I have to add him to the list of confusion.
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Miller is "WHORES AND NAZIS!" while Millar is the living equivalent of that South Park episode where they write the grossest book ever.
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Frank Miller is the kind of guy that got mugged as soon as he moved to New York City and never got over it.
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At Frank Miller's highest point with Sin City the running joke at Dark Horse Comics is that if you wanted to reach him via phone you call his favorite bar. Apparently he sobered up and is doing better.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Where does Frank Miller fit into this? Cause he's the one I get mixed with with Mark Millar. Millar is, I believe, Scottish.
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Keromaru5 posted:Frank Miller's American, so we can probably safely assume Reagan had more influence than Thatcher (see his portrayal in DKR). 
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Android Apocalypse posted:Now that I'm older realizing American neoliberalism is still on the right of the political spectrum makes me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU
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Pope Corky the IX posted:The only Millar comic I've ever liked was Red Son but I haven't read it in years and I'm afraid now. It was a fascinating concept. Red Son is still really good. They made a great animated movie adaption a couple years ago that trimmed the fat and made a few character changes I think were better, but even in the comic itself there's not really the Edgy poo poo that I recall. The biggest thing that stands out is it still has the Captain of Industry thing for Luthor that was never true but just gets funnier now that our Captains are Musk, Bezos and Zuckerburg.
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Byzantine posted:Red Son is still really good. They made a great animated movie adaption a couple years ago that trimmed the fat and made a few character changes I think were better, but even in the comic itself there's not really the Edgy poo poo that I recall. The thing I disliked most was that they completely omitted the "Why don't you just put the whole world in a bottle, Superman?" line.
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DrBouvenstein posted:The thing I disliked most was that they completely omitted the I may be misremembering, but that line, along with most of the good parts, was 100% Grant Morrison before Millar burned that bridge.
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I wish Animal Man was a more popular comic, so they would do a Netflix series of Grant Morrison's run in the 90's and actually do the issue where Grant Morrison wrote himself in as a character. Also, Green Cigarette.
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DrBouvenstein posted:The thing I disliked most was that they completely omitted the thats a line so good that even a non comic nerd like me has heard it and has put it in my mental collection of great qoutes
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Elissimpark posted:I wish Animal Man was a more popular comic, so they would do a Netflix series of Grant Morrison's run in the 90's and actually do the issue where Grant Morrison wrote himself in as a character. Weirdly enough they did a small adaptation of Animal Man in the Titans live action show, just with Beast Boy instead of Buddy. Grant even showed up for a meta moment.
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PhazonLink posted:thats a line so good that even a non comic nerd like me has heard it and has put it in my mental collection of great qoutes That's one of the rare times luthor has actually gotten a well deserved smackdown line on him. I enjoyed the movie for what it was, but the book was way better. The commie batman and the green lantern corp were kinda weird though.
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In Rebel Moon there's a swordswoman who fight a spider-lady. She fight the spider-lady for a bit and then it's revealed she can can make her swords so hot they can slice through anything. So why didn't she do that at the start of thefight?
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Alhazred posted:In Rebel Moon there's a swordswoman who fight a spider-lady. She fight the spider-lady for a bit and then it's revealed she can can make her swords so hot they can slice through anything. So why didn't she do that at the start of thefight? Replacing swords all the time costs money?
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Alhazred posted:In Rebel Moon there's a swordswoman who fight a spider-lady. She fight the spider-lady for a bit and then it's revealed she can can make her swords so hot they can slice through anything. So why didn't she do that at the start of thefight? Why do the power rangers fight a while before forming the big power rangers guy or pulling out the insta kill sword? Because it takes time to charge up obviously.
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:Why do the power rangers fight a while before forming the big power rangers guy or pulling out the insta kill sword? Except in the last fight on the movie she lights up the swords right away.
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Because it's cool as gently caress, that's why.
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:Why do the power rangers fight a while before forming the big power rangers guy or pulling out the insta kill sword? It's pretty hard to JO when you've got some crazy space monster coming at you.
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