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Harbaugh is an insanely competitive lunatic, I doubt he’s the type to look at any job and think “the deck is stacked against me, I might fail.” Whatever he decision making criteria he uses “is the job going to be hard” probably doesn’t figure into it at all.
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kalensc posted:The more appropriate question imo is "Why would he want people to believe he's interested in that job?". Yeah this is likely it. Also 120/8 seems low. It's going to be 20 million a year.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/SKProFootball/status/1742661277627892109 There's 32 head coaching positions, and he will take a job if the price is right. Given how much the Raiders forked over for Gruden I imagine he's seeing that opportunity.
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Bismack Billabongo posted:A ton of New England adjacent media people are really trying to get vrabel out of Tennessee. I’m not sure that’s gonna happen. Leaving that aside he’ll definitely have a hot seat next season IMO There's a bit of smoke that Vrabel may be butting heads with the new GM, but who knows how much truth there is to it. A Vrabel trade to New England would not surprise me, and I wouldn't mind it.
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I think the Chargers roster is on the whole stronger than the Raiders roster, but at the same time the Chargers have a lot of core players getting up in age while the Raiders have Maxx Crosby. But then Herbert will be only 26 and the Raiders don't have a quality starter at QB. Probably a wash.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I think the Chargers roster is on the whole stronger than the Raiders roster, but at the same time the Chargers have a lot of core players getting up in age while the Raiders have Maxx Crosby. But then Herbert will be only 26 and the Raiders don't have a quality starter at QB. It's not a wash at all lol. it's 26 year old franchise QB vs no QB. You think that is a wash?
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mcmagic posted:It's not a wash at all lol. it's 26 year old franchise QB vs no QB. You think that is a wash? Perhaps we could look at the record of some other team, one that has a talented roster but a complete void at QB, for insight into this question.
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Jan 3, 2024 23:20
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I demand more bloodshed
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I mean Jim Harbaugh is clearly better than Josh McDaniels but lol if the Raiders pass up their hot hand interim coach for another splashy expensive hire.
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Jan 3, 2024 23:47
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his hand is warm at best
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Raiders could have a fairly quick turn around with the right guy in place I can see why he'd find it an attractive job. Harbaugh likely has his pick of jobs though and its probably going to come down to who's going to pay the best and where's the best place to live and I can't see many more amazing options than a temperate climate, a pretty friendly owner and deep pockets.
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So you've got Andy Reid in KC, Payton in Denver, Chargers supposedly all in on a Belichick or Harbaugh level hire. There's no way you can stay pat with your okayish interim if you're Vegas
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indigi posted:his hand is warm at best I mean compared to what came before he's holding his hand over a candle and not flinching. It is still amazing to me to think how quickly Josh McDaniels blew his second chance at a head coaching job. All you really had to do was not make everyone hate you, and you couldn't manage to do that.
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Grittybeard posted:I mean compared to what came before he's holding his hand over a candle and not flinching. Who could have predicted a 47 year old white male couldn't change their ways?!
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Jan 4, 2024 00:12
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Hiring the interim coach because it's a feel good story is a bad process.
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tbh i feel like the raiders are a prime trade up for QB candidate.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Hiring the interim coach because it's a feel good story is a bad process. I believe interim head coaches should get a lump sum bonus for a battlefield promotion, but hiring them as a head coach has almost never actually worked.
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mcmagic posted:It's not a wash at all lol. it's 26 year old franchise QB vs no QB. You think that is a wash? That post was going to be longer, but basically: Herbert's contract is also a factor (the Chargers have about one year remaining of breathing room before the cap number balloons up), as well as whether or not Harbaugh wants to work with him vs. hand-picking his own QB. On top of that, how much difference in leash length does Harbaugh get in Vegas building up a roster vs trying to revamp an aging Chargers roster? I did say I thought the Chargers roster was currently stronger than Las Vegas's roster.
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SKULL.GIF posted:That post was going to be longer, but basically: Herbert's contract is also a factor (the Chargers have about one year remaining of breathing room before the cap number balloons up), as well as whether or not Harbaugh wants to work with him vs. hand-picking his own QB. On top of that, how much difference in leash length does Harbaugh get in Vegas building up a roster vs trying to revamp an aging Chargers roster? How old do you think the Chargers roster actually is? They have like 1 player who'll be on the team next year who's over 30
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Barudak posted:I believe interim head coaches should get a lump sum bonus for a battlefield promotion, but hiring them as a head coach has almost never actually worked. Wade Phillips was a little better than we remember him as HC. Um, Jason Garett exists? I suppose if you're the Cowboys keep your interim coach because it's possible you'll do worse?
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a neat cape posted:How old do you think the Chargers roster actually is? They have like 1 player who'll be on the team next year who's over 30 For the 2024 season Keenan Allen will be 32, Mike Williams 30, That's a lot of core players that have a decent likelihood of needing replacing within a couple seasons.
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Simplex posted:So you've got Andy Reid in KC, Payton in Denver, Chargers supposedly all in on a Belichick or Harbaugh level hire. There's no way you can stay pat with your okayish interim if you're Vegas And we’ll all convince ourselves the afcw is a gauntlet and then they’ll all suck besides the chiefs
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SKULL.GIF posted:That post was going to be longer, but basically: Herbert's contract is also a factor (the Chargers have about one year remaining of breathing room before the cap number balloons up), as well as whether or not Harbaugh wants to work with him vs. hand-picking his own QB. On top of that, how much difference in leash length does Harbaugh get in Vegas building up a roster vs trying to revamp an aging Chargers roster? I don't understand wanting the cap room more than wanting the franchise QB who you know is a franchise QB.
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mcmagic posted:I don't understand wanting the cap room more than wanting the franchise QB who you know is a franchise QB. Because I'm weighing the different valuations determining the attractiveness of the two destinations being compared instead of actively advocating to Jim that he should go to this one specific spot?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Because I'm weighing the different valuations determining the attractiveness of the two destinations being compared instead of actively advocating to Jim that he should go to this one specific spot? And I'm saying the things you are saying are equivalent, aren't.
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mcmagic posted:tbh i feel like the raiders are a prime trade up for QB candidate.
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SKULL.GIF posted:For the 2024 season Keenan Allen will be 32, Mike Williams 30, Yeah I said players that'll be here next season. Keenan will be. Mack, Ekeler, Linsley, Kendricks, and Mike aren't going to be.
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a neat cape posted:Yeah I said players that'll be here next season. How much dead cap results from cutting them all?
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Black Sunshine posted:How much dead cap results from cutting them all? 2024 is gonna be rough. But there's really no other choice, looking at their cap numbers. Linsley is probably retiring and Allen will probably be extended so that'll cut down his cap number.
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Black Sunshine posted:How much dead cap results from cutting them all? Looks like outright releasing these four (Mack, Linsley, Williams, Kendricks) will free up somewhere around 58 million in cap space altogether. Three of the four will be in their final contracted season so it's simple to just cut them outright since the cap savings completely offsets the dead cap and then some. Linsley will incur a dead cap hit of 2.6 million for 2025 but that's more than manageable.
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It's the JC Jackson 20 million dead money hit that really loving sucks
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mcmagic posted:tbh i feel like the raiders are a prime trade up for QB candidate. Don't think they'll need to trade up for Harbaugh to snag JJ McCarthy.
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Simplex posted:So you've got Andy Reid in KC, Payton in Denver, Chargers supposedly all in on a Belichick or Harbaugh level hire. There's no way you can stay pat with your okayish interim if you're Vegas Who else is out there that's at that level? Not sure that Belichick is a great fit there if the Chargers go all in on Harbaugh, although I think the other way around works for both teams. Ben Johnson plus trading up for a QB seems good on paper, but not sure Pierce is significantly worse than most options beyond that.
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This thread two weeks ago: wow pierce is clearly a great coach. Davis would be the biggest idiot to not hire him! This thread now: yeaaaah so why should Davis keep pierce? The raiders just need a lot more star power than just some interim. Goons own.
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really queer Christmas posted:This thread two weeks ago: wow pierce is clearly a great coach. Davis would be the biggest idiot to not hire him! If you can get Harbaugh, keeping a rookie coach would be stupid
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really queer Christmas posted:This thread two weeks ago: wow pierce is clearly a great coach. Davis would be the biggest idiot to not hire him! we were caught up in the moment!
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really queer Christmas posted:This thread two weeks ago: wow pierce is clearly a great coach. Davis would be the biggest idiot to not hire him! I think you keep Pierce over any other bad retread or 1st year coach. You do not keep him over a winning HC who's been great everywhere he's gone. Sounds like Harbaugh's gonna play the Chargers off against the Raiders and see who'll give him the most
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Simplex posted:So you've got Andy Reid in KC, Payton in Denver, Chargers supposedly all in on a Belichick or Harbaugh level hire. There's no way you can stay pat with your okayish interim if you're Vegas You don't dismiss the viable candidacy of a solid interim coach for such a nothing reason. If Harbaugh interviews and seems committed (unlike the Minnesota interview a year or two ago) then sure, he's a proven success several times over. But if he isn't keen on the Raiders then there is no legitimate headline-making hire, so... gauge Pierce on his merits and interview chops and plan for the future, rather than believing you need to win the off-season coaching hire showdown?
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kalensc posted:You don't dismiss the viable candidacy of a solid interim coach for such a nothing reason. I know it’s a different sport but I’m thinking about Monty Williams accepting that massive gently caress off contract to coach the Pistons even though he wanted to just take the year off and wanted a veteran team and the hilarious results it’s had (team sucks rear end, he is playing no hopers over rookies who could maybe be developed, kind of seems like he’s phoning it in).
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mcmagic posted:If you can get Harbaugh, keeping a rookie coach would be stupid Yeah Its this, if my choices were like Ben johnson, or a retread I'm taking Pierce, if i can get Harbaugh it's harbaugh.
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