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We are all Bohemian.
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What about gypsy danger
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Jan 4, 2024 13:24
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The Mighty Moltres posted:Bohemia is an area in the Czech Republic. Yes. And Egypt is an area in Egypt.
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Jan 4, 2024 13:26
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Taxi Driver Travis could have lived if he just wasn't twenty-six years old.
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Jan 4, 2024 13:30
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CelticPredator posted:What about gypsy danger Makes me so uncomfortable to say its name because I'm a wuss lol
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Jan 4, 2024 13:30
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CJacobs posted:Makes me so uncomfortable to say its name because I'm a wuss lol In TYOOL 2024, let's be a wuss.
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Jan 4, 2024 13:36
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Here's some media that did age pretty well. The mystery science theater robot Gypsy wasn't named after the Romani people, but apparently Joel's pet turtle. After receiving complaints the name was shortened to GPC. https://twitter.com/JoelGHodgson/status/1157855281617022976
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Jan 4, 2024 13:37
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Pacific Rim takes place next year so I think it’s okay to say it Edit her name is gipsy danger.
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Jan 4, 2024 13:37
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CelticPredator posted:Pacific Rim takes place next year so I think it’s okay to say it The screenwriter tried to argue that he named the big robot after the WW2 de Havilland Gipsy buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut quote:In the original screenplay for Pacific Rim, Gipsy Danger's key signifier and namesake was the image of a pinup decal featuring a "buxom Gipsy riding a bomb". Respectively, its pilots, Raleigh Antrobus and Mako Mori, were referred to as "Roma 1" or "Roma 2" 
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Jan 4, 2024 13:44
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There was an episode of Angel where he and Spike go to Italy and every time Angel's curse is mentioned, the Italian guide would say "Gypsies, Urgh! Filthy people!" and spit on the ground. I thought it was super strange at the time but years later I visited Italy and that's just a normal Italian
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Jan 4, 2024 13:49
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My sister adopted a new puppy last year and they named her Gypsy. I never mustered up the courage to call her out on it, and now I feel like it's too late.
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Jan 4, 2024 13:51
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I had a GD hat and it was my favorite. I hope Pac Rim makes a come back.
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Jan 4, 2024 13:54
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CJacobs posted:Here's some media that did age pretty well. The mystery science theater robot Gypsy wasn't named after the Romani people, but apparently Joel's pet turtle. After receiving complaints the name was shortened to GPC. Awww, as someone who is just getting into MSTK3000 now (we didn't have it in my country, growing up) it's nice to see that Joel is Actually Good
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Jan 4, 2024 14:06
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The Mighty Moltres posted:We are all Bohemian. Bohemian...like you?
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Jan 4, 2024 14:06
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GoutPatrol posted:Bohemian...like you? Bohemeeez these nutz
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Jan 4, 2024 14:13
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Master Twig posted:My sister adopted a new puppy last year and they named her Gypsy. I never mustered up the courage to call her out on it, and now I feel like it's too late. The n-word used to be a popular name for dogs up until at least the 1950s (and that has some loving layers to it), most notably the dog which was the mascot of the Dam Busters air squadron in WW2. There were complaints as recently as 2001 over modern movies about the Dam Busters either dropping all mention of the dog or changing its name to 'Trigger'.
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Jan 4, 2024 14:15
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If they ever get around to doing another Fyre Fest in the Bahamas they should name it Bahamian Rhapsody.
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Jan 4, 2024 14:18
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The n-word used to be a popular name for dogs up until at least the 1950s (and that has some loving layers to it), most notably the dog which was the mascot of the Dam Busters air squadron in WW2. There were complaints as recently as 2001 over modern movies about the Dam Busters either dropping all mention of the dog or changing its name to 'Trigger'. I know Lovecraft’s legendary racism makes him easy fodder for this thread, but there was a cat in his story “the Rats in the Walls” (iirc) named “[n-bomb]-Man”.
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Jan 4, 2024 14:25
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I thought that was his actual cat's name.
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Jan 4, 2024 14:29
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Leave posted:I thought that was his actual cat's name. I’m not gonna sell him short, it could’ve been  But I remember it from the story.e: lmao it was both. You literally cannot underestimate his level of racism.
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Jan 4, 2024 14:35
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I imagine every time someone he knew got a cat he's like "ooh I've got a great cat name" They're all like omg stahp dude.
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Jan 4, 2024 14:41
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The n-word used to be a popular name for dogs up until at least the 1950s (and that has some loving layers to it), most notably the dog which was the mascot of the Dam Busters air squadron in WW2. There were complaints as recently as 2001 over modern movies about the Dam Busters either dropping all mention of the dog or changing its name to 'Trigger'. I saw complaints last week. England is a cursed and blighted place.
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Jan 4, 2024 14:44
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Icon Of Sin posted:I know Lovecraft’s legendary racism makes him easy fodder for this thread, but there was a cat in his story “the Rats in the Walls” (iirc) named “[n-bomb]-Man”. Lovecraft if anything gets too much flak for what was entirely normal for the literal Jim Crow era, the only reason he stands out is because he was wordy about it. His views, down to sympathy for the Nazis, were entirely mainstream in America, and even then he realised the New Deal was actually helping people.
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Jan 4, 2024 15:00
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Barry Foster posted:Awww, as someone who is just getting into MSTK3000 now (we didn't have it in my country, growing up) it's nice to see that Joel is Actually Good I've heard the opposite re. Mike, tho.
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Jan 4, 2024 15:05
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Lovecraft if anything gets too much flak for what was entirely normal for the literal Jim Crow era, the only reason he stands out is because he was wordy about it. His views, down to sympathy for the Nazis, were entirely mainstream in America, and even then he realised the New Deal was actually helping people. Yeah, Lovecraft was more racist than his liberal artist friends. He was a grown man during the Tulsa race massacre and the red summer that erupted in like sixteen states, I'm confused on why people always want to point him out like he was abnormal. It feels like whenever I have a friend travel out of the south and they meet someone racist, they're always shocked like "I went to Boston and the people there were really racist! I thought That was only in Mississippi!", or "The cool couple we hung out with all week during our honeymoon in France went to a really homophobic protest! Can you believe it?". No duh, poo poo people are everywhere, we don't live in the one special place that bad people come from.
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Jan 4, 2024 15:10
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Lovecraft if anything gets too much flak for what was entirely normal for the literal Jim Crow era, the only reason he stands out is because he was wordy about it. His views, down to sympathy for the Nazis, were entirely mainstream in America, and even then he realised the New Deal was actually helping people. From what I understand, Lovecraft was considered racist even by the standards of the time, though in an eye-rolly "Yeah, yeah, we get it, you hate the *insert slur here*, can ya shut up about it for five minutes?" sense, rather than the modern day "  ...the gently caress did you just say?" sense. Then again, he's also had at least one story where the horrifying reveal wasn't that the protagonist was actually distantly related to some horrifying monster, but that the monsters were... BLACK!Guy was also terrified of literally everything, and wrote a horror story about the dangers of AC. That has nothing to do with his racism, I just want to humiliate the racist gently caress.
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Jan 4, 2024 15:40
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Lovecraft if anything gets too much flak for what was entirely normal for the literal Jim Crow era, the only reason he stands out is because he was wordy about it. And because his racial purity views and phobia went beyond even what the Nazis found reasonable. He wrote more than one story where the sanity-destroying revelation at the end is that the protagonist is 1/32nd black. And let's not forget his famous poem, On The Creation of N*ggers. Or better yet, let's. Lovecraft did soften his views in later life, after his Jewish wife took him to the city and he actually met a black person. But he still wound up as at best a Jim Crow liberal, and that was a step up from where he started.
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WaywardWoodwose posted:Yeah, Lovecraft was more racist than his liberal artist friends. He was a grown man during the Tulsa race massacre and the red summer that erupted in like sixteen states, I'm confused on why people always want to point him out like he was abnormal. Lovecraft wrote to his correspondents pretending to be an old man in the KKK and often described actual minority groups he saw in town with the same kind of flair usually reserved for describing unknowable monsters from the deep. He described the way they lived like disgusting squid nests and poo poo. Also he was very upset over learning he had welsh ancestry.
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Jan 4, 2024 15:47
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Nuebot posted:Also he was very upset over learning he had welsh ancestry. lol 
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Jan 4, 2024 15:54
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With such a baseless hatred against them, it’s like the gypsies are the Jews of Europe
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Jan 4, 2024 16:06
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Samovar posted:I've heard the opposite re. Mike, tho. Oh. Oh no. Good thing he isn't involved in the reboot? At least I know Bill Corbett is good people
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Jan 4, 2024 16:08
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Nuebot posted:he had welsh ancestry. The cyclopean geometries of a wet night in Swansea, a horror too great to bear.
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Jan 4, 2024 16:10
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bunnyofdoom posted:Oh. Oh no. I’m tired and I’m going to sleep but Mike is, as far as I know, fine. He just is in proximity to some bad ideas.
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Jan 4, 2024 16:13
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Jedit posted:And because his racial purity views and phobia went beyond even what the Nazis found reasonable. He wrote more than one story where the sanity-destroying revelation at the end is that the protagonist is 1/32nd black. And let's not forget his famous poem, On The Creation of N*ggers. Or better yet, let's. Yeah. He eventually got into progressive politics and his personal correspondence speaks of how embarrassed he was of his earlier racist views, which he had come to see as a form of social control used to keep the masses divided and distracted from the economic injustices of capitalism, but he still never really came any further than "let's coexist civilly at arm's length" on racial issues.
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Jan 4, 2024 16:20
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I feel like we wouldn't be litigating and rationalizing Lovecraft's weird gross opinions if people just read more Weird Fiction. There were dozens of other authors from his time period who also wrote prolifically about greebly space monsters with at least equal deftness and skill. And most of them were, well, still usually pretty old-timey racist tbh, but not "set myself on fire because my dad hosed a gorilla" bizarre about it. Like, nobody is bringing up what offensive name A. Merritt gave his cat, or what Algernon Blackwood thought about Hitler or whatever. Why devote this much mental energy to Lovecraft?
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Jan 4, 2024 17:04
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the holy poopacy posted:Yeah. He eventually got into progressive politics and his personal correspondence speaks of how embarrassed he was of his earlier racist views, which he had come to see as a form of social control used to keep the masses divided and distracted from the economic injustices of capitalism, but he still never really came any further than "let's coexist civilly at arm's length" on racial issues. He and Robert E Howard were pen pals because they wrote for similar genre pulps, and Lovecraft's views were so extreme to REH that he deliberately and consciously abandoned his own rural West Texas Jim Crow era racism because he was so repulsed.
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Asterite34 posted:I feel like we wouldn't be litigating and rationalizing Lovecraft's weird gross opinions if people just read more Weird Fiction. There were dozens of other authors from his time period who also wrote prolifically about greebly space monsters with at least equal deftness and skill. And most of them were, well, still usually pretty old-timey racist tbh, but not "set myself on fire because my dad hosed a gorilla" bizarre about it. Agreed. We (goons) talk so much about his racism that we don’t even bring up the fact he was a socialist, which is an even worse thing to be
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Jan 4, 2024 17:27
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oldpainless posted:With such a baseless hatred against them, it’s like the gypsies are the Jews of Europe More like altschmerzfrei.
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Jan 4, 2024 17:45
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My great grandmother had a cat named Sambo and I didn't think anything of it as a kid but I'm pretty sure this super old lady from the south might have been a little racist?
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Asterite34 posted:
Why do more people talk about John Lennon beating his wives than about any of the other 60s rockstars who probably did the same? The others weren't in the Beatles. Lovecraft is much much better known in the mainstream than Blackwood or A. Merritt and a lot more influential.
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