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Alternatively, make exile trigger 'dies', but also keyword flicker, and explicitly have it not trigger "dies" effects.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Brimg back buried for exiled creatures, clearly. I always liked "Bury x" as a description on a spell. I think there was some old removal that did that? Just sounds cool in this poster's opinion
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Weird Pumpkin posted:I always liked "Bury x" as a description on a spell. I think there was some old removal that did that? Bury used to mean "Destroy, can't be regenerated." It got axed in 6th edition when the rules were overhauled to their current form (The stack, removal of interrups and instants, etc)
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Judging by Wrath of God's text, it started in Revised and became a pretty badass "Bury all creatures" in 4th and stayed that way through 5th. It also meant sacrificing something against your will, like, as a drawback, at least during Mirage as Phyrexian Dreadnought shows. I seem to remember an edict effect saying bury but Diabolic Edict in Tempest says sacrifice, and I don't want to look at every card in tempest and mirage blocks to find what I am thinking of right now.
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Abhorrence posted:Bury used to mean "Destroy, can't be regenerated." It got axed in 6th edition when the rules were overhauled to their current form (The stack, removal of interrups and instants, etc) Oh I had no idea! I didn't play back then really, though I had some cards. At the very least I didn't know the rules even remotely properly I bet. I figured it was just a more descriptive way to say destroy I think my very first deck was some nonsense that had a bunch of circles of protection in it when I was maybe in junior high? God that's so incredibly long ago rip Edit: oh man it had mana flare in it too I think. It makes you get double mana, how could it be bad?!? Weird Pumpkin fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jan 5, 2024 |
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HootTheOwl posted:You were not ready to have the conversation i'm waiting for the bit to complete so we can see how this is all just a way to ban blood moon
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exile becomes dies would immediately break blood artist effects wouldn't it? there wouldn't be any clean answer to them ever
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Jan 5, 2024 01:01
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ilmucche posted:exile becomes dies would immediately break blood artist effects wouldn't it? there wouldn't be any clean answer to them ever Or things like the scam instants
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Jan 5, 2024 03:53
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Would also mess heavily with any of the undying/Persist creatures.
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ilmucche posted:exile becomes dies would immediately break blood artist effects wouldn't it? there wouldn't be any clean answer to them ever Then we escalate to shuffling back into the deck as removal, until that becomes ubiquitous and dies is expanded to include that, then it's upgraded to return to hand then shuffle in cards named ~, until dies is expanded to include leaving the battlefield in any way, then removal flips cards face down before destroying them, and the cosmic ballet goes on.
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Jan 5, 2024 15:22
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Or wotc could just print less loving exile removal that isn't enchantment based
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Weird Pumpkin posted:I always liked "Bury x" as a description on a spell. I think there was some old removal that did that? You're probably thinking of this. 
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Wasn't part of the rule with "bury" that the creature went to the bottom of the graveyard or am I imagining that?
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Jan 5, 2024 16:42
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Judgy Fucker posted:Wasn't part of the rule with "bury" that the creature went to the bottom of the graveyard or am I imagining that? It was not, you are
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That would have been cool, back when it mattered. gently caress your ashen ghoul!
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Judgy Fucker posted:Wasn't part of the rule with "bury" that the creature went to the bottom of the graveyard or am I imagining that? Bury always just meant "can't be regenerated" as far as I know.
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Jan 5, 2024 16:46
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Weird Pumpkin posted:imo legacy is a better format than modern because the powerful universal answers also have extremely bonkers threats and powerful combo enablers to go with them I admittedly haven't played any legacy - not for lack of access (on mtgo with manatraders). Paper is a little out of reach since I'm rebuilding my collection from scratch. And Unholy Heat is just ridiculous. I can't complain about the evoke elementals because with Grief sticking around Hardened Scales becomes a better deck and that's my absolute jam. We hate amulet titan over here. We hates it.
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Bring back regenerate and let them regenerate chance on being sent to exile.
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Cons of Hoot's scheme: thousands of cards break, either becoming far better or far worse basically by accident; r&d have fewer options when designing with no new avenues; aggro strategies continue to drown under midrange value piles; introduces a precedent to wildly change the rules with no clear benefits but significantly more confusion. Pros od Hoot's scheme: leyline binding's meta share decreases by .2%
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https://x.com/_Memo_4302/status/1743307395458105793?s=20 https://x.com/Pingmeisterpong/status/1743246263670227134?s=20 Don't play video cam magic for stakes.
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https://twitter.com/j1va_97/status/1743257818516332852?t=eTDB8FsQEJxLbGq69hxuAw&s=19
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Sickening posted:https://x.com/_Memo_4302/status/1743307395458105793?s=20 You know when would be a good time to cheat at Magic? When my own camera is on and recording me. lmao I love good comedy
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kung fu jive posted:You know when would be a good time to cheat at Magic? When my own camera is on and recording me. People who will cheat on camera are just the most degenerate of cheaters. So compulsive that they can't help themselves. A cheater who cheats on camera might as well get a lifetime ban as they can't stop themselves at cheating as much much as an alcoholic can't stop after a single drink. Its pretty sad.
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Sickening posted:https://x.com/_Memo_4302/status/1743307395458105793?s=20 Okay I'm not seeing the first one, the second video, like........did that person just have a little tray to hold the card he or she wanted to just put into their hand????? Jiro fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jan 5, 2024 |
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Jan 5, 2024 20:34
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Jiro posted:Okay I'm not seeing the first one, the other one like........did that person just have a little tray to hold the card he or she wanted to just put into their hand????? The issue is the shuffling. If you ever see someone shuffling these ways for games with stakes, you should be concerned.
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https://x.com/bryantacook/status/1743310777585410281?s=46 I’ve had some fun playing on webcam, but tournaments should 100000% be done in a digital client.
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i'm guessing in the shuffle clip the guy can feel his dockside extortionist to cut to it so either the card sleeve is scuffed or bent or something. cheater's plan is so when he goes for the brazillian cut, the dockside is on top of the middle pile and he's using people tendencies to pick the 2nd pile. pretty sure he also peeks the bottom of pile #1 to make sure its not dockside. the way he grips and drops dockside right before he cuts is also a weird grip. anyways the shuffling at the very least is suspicious. i don't play 100 card formats but assuming you play those formats shuffling shouldn't be that difficult.
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Some people have problems with shuffling 100 card decks if they have small hands, but that's not what's happening here
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Some people have problems with shuffling 100 card decks if they have small hands, but that's not what's happening here 100%. I don't expect perfection, but someone shuffling is wanting to view the contents of their deck while shuffling to in order to loving cheat.
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I'll give one million dollars to the person who can design a feasible system to make priority passing in digital multiplayer magic not a complete assfuck
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The way MTGO handles it is fine, what is your problem with it? The one change I'd like made, although I don't know if it is even possible without breaking something, is not letting floating mana reset priority. Even in paper that leads to some pretty annoying games, and it's like 'soft banned' (for whatever that's worth lol) from some tournaments.
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Sickening posted:100%. I don't expect perfection, but someone shuffling is wanting to view the contents of their deck while shuffling to in order to loving cheat. Need an automated machine card shuffler that can handle double sleeved cards with dragon shield outer sleeves.
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fadam posted:I’ve had some fun playing on webcam, but tournaments should 100000% be done in a digital client. Arena doesn't have commander and mtgo is missing a whole bunch of cards.
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kung fu jive posted:I admittedly haven't played any legacy - not for lack of access (on mtgo with manatraders). Paper is a little out of reach since I'm rebuilding my collection from scratch. I'm honestly super jealous, scales looks really fun to play. I started modern with storm which was not great then and is totally unplayable now. Now I bounce between tribal decks, if only I'd started with a better deck lol. At least I've got all the fetches and most of the shocks at this point, so if I decide I want to play something viable I have a lot of options that aren't too crazy expensive (so long as they don't involve TOR... and don't involve extremely critical mythics that will come with MH3 which.. well..) Judgy Fucker posted:Wasn't part of the rule with "bury" that the creature went to the bottom of the graveyard or am I imagining that? This would be extremely cool and very flavorful.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Arena doesn't have commander and mtgo is missing a whole bunch of cards. I don't think it is missing anything significant for CEDH, but that's a good point. I think Cockatrice has basically everything.
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Didn't the warhammer cards make a pretty big splash? I know that Boshnroll keeps mentioning this "Triumph of St Katherine" which I have not seen or know what it is since I only watch digital magic lol
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Didn't the warhammer cards make a pretty big splash? That's for Legacy, TSK and some spider robot thing for Painter decks are both meta cards in paper that aren't available on MTGO IIRC. I don't think any meta CEDH decks run any of the WH40k cards (but I think there's an Esper commander that is supposed to be pretty good). Tivit was the biggest missing piece for a while, but it has been in. Lacking 100% card availability isn't nothing, and I can see why TOs would value it.
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fadam posted:I don't think it is missing anything significant for CEDH, but that's a good point. Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward is more relevant than the entirety of LCI.
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The real question is why not use some sort of digital tabletop, like Tabletop simulator.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward is more relevant than the entirety of LCI. Isn't he on MTGO? That's crazy if he's not. EDIT: Looks like he's on but bugged and disabled? Maybe one day. fadam fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Jan 5, 2024 |
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