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Part 152: Episode 5, Final Day, Trial Former: Sketchy Sketch I kind of miss the mechanic last episode where Phoenix would discard evidence that was no longer needed. There's no way that all of this stuff is still relevant.  Anyway, I initially thought that Ema's last statement had a contradiction in it, but between the pressing and the new line of testimony we got, the game pretty clearly wants us to focus on this list first.  Or rather, what's on the back of it. Music: Silence   Mr. Edgeworth.  Sound: Desk Slam  Sound: Objection  Phoenix dunking on Edgeworth to score drama points. Kind of mean when he's trying to help us out here, but I think we owe him a couple jabs.Music: Objection!  Huh!?Sound: Stab  Sound: Desk Slam  Hey, I'm not the bad guy! Sound: Whack That may well be... Sound: Realization  This is... the evidence list for the SL-9 Incident? Please turn it over, Your Honor. Sound: Objection  Sound: Wipe  Sound: Drama Pound I like this reveal. It nicely mirrors the end of the second episode, where we solved the final contradiction by turning over the bloody note to reveal the receipt for the lamp. We didn't have control over the evidence in that case, but we do in this one! I wonder if someone got to this point without actually finding the picture on the back?  Yes, what is that? Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Gallery  Sound: Realization Edgeworth already regrets helping us. What's the meaning of this!?Sound: Whack  Sound: Drama Pound  Me...? Important note: Pictured is Edgeworth showing his own copy of the list. Or what I earlier thought was a copy... Huh...? Sound: Realization What?Sound: Light Bulb  It would appear, Mr. Edgeworth,  These two lists... fit together to form one.  So you see, Mr. Edgeworth. It's quite obvious what happened. Two years ago... Sound: Realization What...Music: Silence  Sound: Stab 2  Sound: Gallery  Sound: Gavel Order! Order!  When Ema first told us the story about how she tried to talk about what she saw but couldn't, and instead drew a picture, the game showed an image of her on the witness stand in an empty courtroom. I guess it was never explicitly said that she tried to testify at trial and couldn't, but it was certainly implied there. However this interaction happening during questioning makes a lot more sense. quote:The previous two panels were pretty different in the original translation. They don't even make any sense:  (Wait a minute...)Sound: Wipe  Sound: Desk Slam Your Honor! Sound: Light Bulb  If the evidence list was torn in half... Sound: Objection Huh. It never remotely occurred to me that the picture was torn in half, too. It seemed pretty complete. I guess earlier I was thinking that Ema drew the picture on the list after it had been torn in half (since I thought it happened at the trial, not during questioning). Music: Investigation - Core ...!Sound: Light Bulb  Yes, that's quite conceivable.Sound: Stab Mr. Edgeworth? Sound: Light Bulb  MMMMMMMMMMMMM!!! Is something wrong?Sound: Realization (Do you even have to ask?)Sound: Realization  The game pauses on Edgeworth's shocked reaction as the screen shakes for a few moments. Sorry, Your Honor.Sound: Realization   It's that... that... thing!Sound: Objection Sound: Wipe  Sound: Drama Pound What the hell is that doing in Ema's picture!? Wait, so I do vaguely remember the prologue video showing a silhouette of the Blue Badger in a window. But how could Ema have seen the Dancing Blue Badger two years ago? Didn't Gumshoe just create the thing recently? Even the stuffed mascot that the Chief Detective had seemed like it was a recent thing, but looking back I guess the game never explicitly said that. What if, instead, Ema really saw the thing the Blue Badger is named and modeled after - a police badge? Music: The Blue Badger ~ I Want to Protect You ... That's that... that thing! Sound: Realization  Could it really be an unrelated doodle from someone else? quote:Original line: "Apparently the Head of Criminal Affairs used this for his blueprint." Other than the job title change, the new line seems like it portrays the chief as more... whimsical, with his design? (I guess he was out of scrap paper...) ... Sound: Select Jingle We never actually mentioned where we found our half of the list. Or looked at what evidence was withheld on that half of the list. Maybe later?  Hmm. If I look at this thing sideways, those two marks in the corners look an awful lot like the upper edges of the large window in Gant's office. Sound: Gavel Music: Silence Very well. Witness. Ema was pretty silent on if that other half of the picture was part of her drawing or not. ... Huh?Sound: Light Bulb  Oh, Y-yes sir, Your Honor! (What's wrong with Ema?) Trying to remember if she really saw the Blue Badger that night or not?   Sound: Testimony 2 Music: Questioning - Moderato   I wonder if Ema really saw Darke stabbing Marshall, or if they were reversed? Or if someone else was in there? After that I must have fainted. Music: Silence Not a whole lot there, is there?    Well, I don't see any contradictions here.  ... The defense may now begin its cross-examination. Sound: Testimony 2 Music: Questioning - Moderato (That's strange...) (And yet...) Sound: Realization Uh, there is?  This is the picture I drew two years ago. Did you draw this picture right after the incident? Um... I think I drew it two or three days later. During that time the investigation team was reorganized. Detective Goodman was placed in charge... (Two or three days later...) (The memory should still have been fresh in her mind.) Excuse me, witness,  The flash of lightning was so bright all I could see were shadows.  No... I couldn't see him clearly. Sound: Realization You were knocked to the floor? Darke had a tight grip on me, but when Mr. Marshall jumped on him, Sound: Thud 4  Sound: Wipe (Poor Ema... I'm just glad she wasn't hurt.) What happened after the lightning flashed? After that I must have fainted. You mean, you didn't see the actual murder take place? No. I-I'm sorry... but the trauma of the situation understandably caused the witness to faint.Sound: Desk Slam  Sound: Objection  What!?Sound: Stab 2 Hey, I'm not the bad guy here! Anyway, this picture... I don't usually show screenshots for the testimony statements during crosses, but this line is the first one that accompanies a picture instead of just a headshot of the speaker. Probably relevant... Sound: Desk Slam  Of course! This is the exact scene! It wasn't influenced in any way from your talks with the detectives?Sound: Desk Slam  Sound: Realization No, no. Of course not.Sound: Stab (I'd better watch out, or he might find some way to cut MY salary!) so I don't think anyone's story would have influenced me... Mr. Wright. Sound: Realization Apparently? Huh?Sound: Light Bulb  Oh, well... ... That's all for the presses. Phoenix clearly thinks there's something wrong with this picture. I'm not sure I'm seeing something definitive, but what do we have that could possibly show something wrong with this picture?
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I'm surprised you've already forgotten about the way you pointed out the discrepancy between the drawing and the way that Neil was stabbed in the back rather than the front.
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GilliamYaeger posted:I'm surprised you've already forgotten about the way you pointed out the discrepancy between the drawing and the way that Neil was stabbed in the back rather than the front. I haven't forgotten, though I saved that comment for the start of the next update. I'll sometimes defer comments to not bias the poll too much. 
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I did the thing where I noticed something the game didn't want me to yet and selected that option.
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The videotape was such a wonderful piece of evidence. It really drives the badger's horrifying surrealism into the player, and all that pays off here when the player uas the exact same reaction to Emma's drawing as the characters.
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DKII posted:
You know, the continued joke about Gumshoe getting his pay cut to such a severe extent that he can barely afford food feels a bit too mean-spirited for my liking, but I'll admit there are moments that the gag gets me.
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The truth behind the blue badger is my favorite part of this case. 
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I do love how the Blue Badger vexes Edgeworth so.
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It's becoming more and more obvious that the Blue Badger was the real murderer all along.
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Image removed. I have not played whichever game it came from.
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I'm pretty sure that image counts as a spoiler.
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Yeah, I'd remove that, as poignant as Edgeworth being forever haunted by the Blue Badger is.
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https://vxtwitter.com/fnafluffy/status/1742816123244933337
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This is great but beware potential spoilers in the replies!
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Description of the link: real life dude upset at being denied probation does a flying tackle at his judge, set to ace attorney music.
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Yeah..... Even if we want to tackle and beat the poo poo outta the the judge when he is being a loving idiot I think the IRL thing is lionizing this dude too much
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FoolyCharged posted:real life dude upset at being denied probation does a flying tackle at his judge I can't imagine why he was denied.
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Should have tried a dropkick instead, smdh
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I can't imagine why he was denied. Yeah, he seems like such a nice guy. Personally, I felt it was pretty mild for a court breakdown. He needed to scream, make some funny faces, and rip off some article of his outfit before going flying at the minimum.
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Part 153: Episode 5, Final Day, Trial Former: Shadows  I thought we'd be presenting this autopsy report last time, but apparently we're supposed to save it for now. I think the main idea here is: If Neil Marshall was stabbed in the back, is that positioning really possible from that picture? Music: Silence Sound: Desk Slam  contains a blatant contradiction!Sound: Realization What?Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Whack Sound: Gavel Mr. Wright. Music: Logic and Trick  Oh shoot, and I already used my lifeline to poll the audience a couple minutes ago.  We have a penalty on this choice already, too! I don't really see anything distinctive about either figure, so I'm pointing at the knife to try and argue that it's at the wrong angle.  Sound: Desk Slam Music: Silence  Sound: Drama Pound Take a look at the knife the man is holding. Sound: Light Bulb Oh, gently caress. I wasn't looking at the drawing literally enough and just got lucky here. I thought it was just a bad rendering of a knife. I guess even a kid's drawing could show a knife with a pointy tip. So, according to the autopsy report, Neil Marshall was stabbed once and the knife's tip was broken off inside the victim; so how was the knife already broken here? quote:Note that presenting the SL-9 knife itself is not a valid option on the cross; only the autopsy report lets us progress. Even I don't have to look closely to see that, Mr. Wright. But Mr. Wright, look at the evidence! Sound: Realization If I recall... quote:Pointing at anywhere else in the picture gives us a generic failure:  Just the kind of conclusive evidence that had eluded the team for so long...  I'm afraid it's not so simple, Ema.Sound: Realization Sound: Desk Slam And where, pray tell, could you possibly see a problem!? Sound: Desk Slam If the victim was only stabbed once, Sound: Drama Pound Sound: Objection Music: Objection!  Sound: Stab 2 Sound: Desk Slam  Sorry, but I'm afraid that's not possible. The tip of the knife was found inside the victim's body.Sound: Desk Slam  Sound: Objection Sound: Gavel That's right! But what does this mean?Sound: Desk Slam  The only possible explanation is the witness's memory is mistaken! I believe you were annoyed at the time. But she was sure she remembered correctly!  Sound: Realization  Have you forgotten already?I do enjoy the rapid-fire objections going back and forth here. I think we're finally making some progress!  Sound: Realization I also love that after flirting with having a suspiciously-updated autopsy report thrown at us mid-trial in the second episode, we are again dealing with a possibly-forged autopsy report here. It's like the game has come full circle. You're treading on thin ice, Wright...Sound: Light Bulb All I'm saying,Music: Silence  Sound: Drama Pound I'm counting that as forging the autopsy report that referred to the broken knife tip being found in Neil Marshall's body.  You can't deny the possibility! No... Sound: Damage 2  Sound: Gallery  Sound: Gavel x 3 Order! Order! Order! Your Honor... Please allow me to once again go over the events that took place the day of the murder.Music: Logic and Trick   Neil Marshall questioned Joe Darke along with Damon Gant.  Sound: Stab 2  Sound: Realization Music: Suspense Hmm... I... I'm not lying... Sound: Whack ... If that's true... then there's no other way around it. Sound: Realization Or at least, not what Ema saw in that instant in her picture. ...!Sound: Light Bulb  What are the chances of there being two broken knives? (Another broken knife besides Joe Darke's...) Look, I know Ema's not mistaken, but this looks like a false choice and there's no penalty here so I'm going with the "wrong" answer on this one. (Broken knives don't just grow on trees...) (There's no way there was another one!) Well, Mr. Wright? Sound: Realization Music: Silence ... I knew it. ...!Sound: Light Bulb (That flash of lightning burned an unforgettable image in her mind...) (There's no way that Ema could be mistaken!)Music: Suspense quote:If we'd picked the second option about there being another broken knife, we just skip straight ahead instead of Phoenix taking the long way there.  it can't just be explained away by a simple observational error. Mr. Wright...Sound: Desk Slam  Sound: Gavel I assume then, If so, please feel free to enlighten us. (The murder weapon was already broken prior to the murder... There's only one way!) All right, so I've been thinking about alternative murder weapons for awhile, under the assumption that Neil Marshall was stabbed with Joe Darke's knife after he was already dead (just like what happened two years later with Detective Goodman). Really ever since we found that the suspicious suit of armor and it's pointy-stabby thing didn't have a luminol reaction, and was on the opposite side of the room from the massive pool of blood. There's only one other stabbing implement that was around that night. And it happens to also have a broken tip...  And Phoenix's recap helpfully reminded everyone about Neil Marshall receiving an award with a broken knife and taking this picture, earlier that same day... The answer lies in the past... Two years in the past. Sound: Objection quote:Now, you might think that presenting the King of Prosecutors Trophy would also work here, but remember that the current trophy does not have a broken knife on it anymore. So it's just another wrong answer, and gets the same reaction as everything else in our massive evidence list. Music: Silence  Sound: Light Bulb Well, now we know why Gant took the broken knife out of the trophy after this incident. What is it, Mr. Edgeworth!? Sound: Realization Notice the award Prosecutor Marshall is holding.Sound: Wipe  Sound: Wipe  Sound: Realization Sound: Desk Slam  That being the case... Sound: Drama Pound Sound: Objection Music: Investigation - Core  Sound: Gallery Sound: Gavel x 3 Order! Order! Order!  When he chased after Joe Darke, he pulled out this knife. Being a prosecutor, he did not carry a pistol. Sound: Objection You know, I never really thought of it that way. I thought maybe Neil Marshall had left the trophy in Gant's office after the picture, and was going to pick it up after questioning Joe Darke. Not that he took it into the questioning room with him. But that... That can't be! Oh? And why not, Mr. Edgeworth? then the murderer and the victim would be reversed!Sound: Drama Pound What do you mean?Sound: Realization Sound: Desk Slam I mean...Sound: Wipe  Sound: Objection This revelation isn't much of a surprise, once we learned that Ema only really saw shadows and not distinct faces. Oh... Sound: Stab 2  Sound: Gallery I wonder if ticket prices at Phoenix's trials have gone up lately. He probably generates a lot more excitement than most defense attorneys. Sound: Gavel x 3 But the prosecutor was the one who actually died!Sound: Whack That's true... (What's going on here?)We're still missing something. How did we go from Neil raising a knife to stab Darke, to Neil lying murdered on top of an unconscious Darke?   Music: Silence  Sound: Objection  Sound: Shock 2 x 4  Sound: Whack Music: Investigation - Core Witness...? Mr. Edgeworth! What is it? His list? The one with that... picture scribbled on the back? Sound: Realization  Sound: Realization Music: Silence What!?Sound: Light Bulb You drew that?Sound: Light Bulb That's right. Music: The Blue Badger ~ I Want to Protect You  I must have locked this part away deep inside me...Sound: Gavel Music: Silence  Would you please tell us what you've recalled, Ms. Skye? Yes, Your Honor. (First the knife mix-up, and now... the Blue Badger?) (This should be interesting...)Sound: Realization  Sound: Testimony 2 Music: Questioning - Allegro Looks like we've earned the tempo change here. Let's see what Ema has to say now. When I saw that man raise his knife... I think I... I knocked away the man with the knife.  Music: Silence ...Can we prove a contradiction in any of that? This is certainly most unusual...Sound: Desk Slam Try impossible!Sound: Whack  Now there's an odd typo. I'm going to assume by "until this year" they mean more "in the last year", since we did see a stuffed animal version of the Blue Badger in Criminal Affairs in Episode 4 a couple months ago (but last calendar year). quote:That typo actually got introduced in the re-translation. Original line: "The Head Detective of Criminal Affairs didn't even design him until this year!" They changed "didn't" to "hadn't" for some reason, but forgot to change "design" to "designed". (That would mean he didn't even exist two years ago...)Sound: Realization   Sound: Objection  Sound: Whack Sound: Desk Slam Lana's looking a little desperate now. We must be getting close to the truth. Music: Suspense Lana!Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Whack  Sound: Damage 2  Why can't you just leave it at that!?Sound: Whack Chief Prosecutor Skye. !Sound: Light Bulb We've already come this far.Music: Silence  Sound: Realization Sound: Gavel Silence! The defense will now begin its cross-examination. (It seems we're finally getting to the core of the matter.) Sound: Testimony 2 Music: Questioning - Allegro (The Blue Badger didn't even exist two years ago...) (So what exactly did Ema see?) (is to put the pieces of the puzzle together...)Sound: Realization When I saw that man raise his knife... When you say, "that man," I assume you refer to Joe Darke? You... "think"?Sound: Realization All I could really see were shadows. is also documented in the Prosecutor's Office reports. So then you... I panicked, and rushed toward both of them. Sound: Whack What else could I have done!? He was about to stab Mr. Marshall! But as we've just theorized, Sound: Realization Well, I didn't know that at the time! When that Darke guy knocked me down, quote:Original line: "all I could think was, "I've got to help Mr. Marshall!"" Interesting edit there, to be intentionally less-specific on the figures' identities... I think I... I knocked away the man with the knife. What do you mean, you "think"?Sound: Realization It... it all happened so fast... And I was in shock! So far our leading theory is that Ema somehow caused Marshall's death, and Gant was using that fact to blackmail Lana. Ema confusing Darke and Marshall would at least partially explain how that act could have happened.  With so much happening in a matter of seconds, a little disorientation is only natural. I knew I had to stop the man with the knife. This line could've used a revision; "young lady" would fit the context better. Just then there was another flash of lightning, and that's when I saw... the Blue Badger! Are you sure about this? Sound: Light Bulb But... And that was just this year...Okay, now I think he's just referring to the actual dancing monstrosity, not the plushie mascot in general.  I know it sounds strange. I was surprised too when I saw him at the Police Department. Sound: Realization  Now I finally remember!Sound: Light Bulb (Oh brother. Just when you thought that thing had caused enough commotion...) He wasn't in the room, but I'm sure I saw his shadow! His shadow? I've got an idea here. Gant's office had a large window on each side. What if, for this second lightning flash, the light actually came from the other side of the office this time? Then Ema actually saw a shadow cast onto her window, from something behind her? That's right... but I still remember it. He had three creepy horns... This is pointless! The witness must be mistaken!Sound: Desk Slam That may well be...Sound: Desk Slam  So really... What else could cast a shadow that looks like the Blue Badger? Oh? And I suppose you have an explanation? Sound: Desk Slam (What was it Ema saw when that lightning flashed?) Anyone have any ideas? Well, might as well act as if we did...  (Yet she's certain she saw its "shadow"!)Sound: Desk Slam Music: Silence Ladies and gentlemen... there indeed was something that looked similar to the Blue Badger...Sound: Realization  Sound: Objection quote:What if we admitted that we weren't sure about what Ema might have seen?  Sound: Light Bulb It's worth the bluff just to see Ema smiling again. Sound: Gavel In this room? Very well, Mr. Wright.Music: Logic and Trick  Of course, now we're going to have to back up our bluff with some evidence... Please show us this mysterious "Blue Badger" look-alike! I have to admit, I did not figure this one out until looking through the Court Record again. 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quote:You know, I never really thought of it that way. I thought maybe Neil Marshall had left the trophy in Gant's office after the picture, and was going to pick it up after questioning Joe Darke. Not that he took it into the questioning room with him. That is a little weird to imagine. I guess he had it nearby when Darke bolted, and immediately ripped off the knife/sword to go after him. Though I imagine such a sculpture would usually be either one piece, or welded together. I think the current conundrum had me the most stumped in the entire trilogy.
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It shows that this case was written after the third game and they really got the groove right. Look at this update, count the dueling objections. Six (mostly) consecutive objections between Nick and Edge, plus the initial one to kickstart poo poo from the cross examination
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DKII posted:
I like to imagine Edgeworth has been so flummoxed over the Blue Badger he just tripped over his lines here.
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This is all complete nonsense. Obviously the Blue Badger teleported back in time to the day of the murder.
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Truthkeeper posted:This is all complete nonsense. Obviously the Blue Badger teleported back in time to the day of the murder. Doctor Blue
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:chief of detectives And that detective's name? Larry Butz.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:let's not get carried away This is a possibility. I think my favorite reporter for the Weekly World News did an article on the Blue Badger and she never makes her stories up…
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It was clearly the attorney badge, which Phoenix was holding up, trying to admire it during the lightning flashes.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:let's not get carried away
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Woebin posted:I'd play a Phoenix Wright / X-Files crossover game . Scully just constantly objecting with possible scientific explanations for various phenomena.
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That it is so obvious what the silhouette actually is makes me slightly disappointed that this is the reason for that very weird piece of evidence. For pacing reasons, I guess it is better that the Blue Badger head outline isn't more of a red herring. I dunno, I guess it is like a Chekhov's Gun situation, except the gun turns out to be just a starter pistol that's used for its intended purpose.
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Prowler posted:That it is so obvious what the silhouette actually is makes me slightly disappointed that this is the reason for that very weird piece of evidence. For pacing reasons, I guess it is better that the Blue Badger head outline isn't more of a red herring. I dunno, I guess it is like a Chekhov's Gun situation, except the gun turns out to be just a starter pistol that's used for its intended purpose. I know, the attorney badge is finally getting its chance to shine, the shape is a perfect match.
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I mean, clearly, you just present the Blue Badger. It's pretty obviously that? They even shoved it in your face all day yesterday.
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Part 154: Episode 5, Final Day, Trial Former: One Possibility Fairly unanimous this time. (I cut out the options that didn't get any votes.)  Between the two handles and the skinny bottom, this jar does seem to have three knobby protrusions... Music: Silence Sound: Desk Slam  Sound: Realization But that's... Er, what exactly is that?Sound: Light Bulb I believe it's some sort of jar. Sound: Whack Indeed it doesn't. As it stands now, it's just a plain jar. Sound: Light Bulb Our viewpoint...?quote:Nothing else will work here: quote:We don't actually have to present the jar while pressing on Ema's last statement in order to continue. We can also directly present the jar on either of Ema's last two statements without pressing at all! Music: The Blue Badger ~ I Want to Protect You  Sound: Realization Before I go further, I wanted to point out and applaud a really subtle hint from the last update. During the cross, when reaching the end of the testimony, Phoenix thinks to himself: (I've gathered all the evidence. All that's left now...) (is to put the pieces of the puzzle together...)That reference to putting "the pieces of the puzzle together" could be a subtle reference to the jar, which we had to assemble from broken pieces like a puzzle!  That last comment will be the end of my positivity for awhile. This puzzle should be simple, but instead is simply terrible.  We're given the same ability to rotate the jar as in our examine-evidence mechanic. The goal is to line up the jar so that its silhouette resembles the Blue Badger photo above. Simple, right? Music: Silence  Sound: Damage 2 Allow me to remind the defense its case hinges on the witness's drawing. Sound: Whack (I've got to find just the right angle!) Music: The Blue Badger ~ I Want to Protect You Come on, Mr. Wright! You can do it! Sound: Realization Okay, so I guess we didn't line that one up quite right? Now imagine that same scene about twenty more times, because this angle is nearly impossible to get precisely correct enough for the game to allow us to continue.  It doesn't help that it seems like there are multiple angles that could work. This one is not the right one for sure.  Yeah, I know.  Maybe a little less of a tilt?  Look, I'm trying, okay!  I really thought I had it with this one. Maybe the upward-pointing prong is slightly off-center? (Pay no attention to the cropping, I had some recording glitches doing this puzzle over and over...)   I think I was short on tilt this time. The top prong isn't prominent enough I guess?   This one had even less tilt. Plus it's a little off-center. I was getting desperate. At least there are no penalties here.   I thought this one was perfect, frankly.   I hope that using the stylus in the original DS version was more forgiving than me trying to use either the mouse or the keyboard here. From what I read, the HD port has a lot more precision in the jar rotation, and the game didn't loosen up its allowable angles enough to compensate. And the entire time you're presenting angle after angle, that infernal Blue Badger music is playing, mocking you. This attempt looks almost identical to my last one, but for some reason this one was successful.   Sound: Realization Frankly after 10-15 minutes wrestling with that puzzle, I don't even remember why we were doing it. This game just lost all the goodwill I had going for it after a pretty rocking final day. One of the worst gameplay sins a puzzle game can commit is having the player know the answer but be unable to convince the game of it.  Sound: Damage 2 Back to regular gameplay, and may the gimmick puzzles die with this episode. Music: Silence  Sound: Gallery Sound: Gavel x 3 Order! Order! The defense has proven its claim.  Sound: Desk Slam What's your point!? What do you mean?I've kind of lost the plot, really. I think at this point I was thinking that Gant had snuck in, grabbed the jar, and smashed Marshall over the head with it? And then stabbed him with Darke's knife afterwards, and faked the autopsy report to say he died from the stabbing?  That doesn't change anything!Sound: Drama Pound So, we need some way to prove that Ema seeing the jar is relevant to what happened... Music: Investigation - Core I'm afraid that's where you're wrong, Mr. Edgeworth. Sound: Desk Slam Weird little mid-panel slam, but I dig it. What do you have in mind for us, Phoenix? Indeed? Very well, then. Please tell us... Uh, what is different? Is the jar the murder weapon? Allow me to take these in turn. At a very specific angle, I might add, Mr. Wright. Yes, well, knowing this, where could she have seen this jar? Where...? quote:So, Phoenix is talking about the location here, despite us picking a different option. As Phoenix said, he is actually going to tie all three options together in the same response. Meaning no matter what we picked, we get the same scene here.  Sound: Realization Sound: Desk Slam But the body was found lying near Lana Skye's desk! The witness testified so herself!Sound: Desk Slam  You see... The struggle between Darke and Marshall did not take place in Lana Skye's office! Sound: Drama Pound Awww, gently caress gently caress gently caress, this game faked me out again! It really was the suit of armor and its sharp sword all along! And Gant and Lana's falsified evidence included cleaning up / faking the crime scene! Wait, oh poo poo! We just heard Ema testify that she knocked the man with the knife back... the man was Neil Marshall... she knocked him into the armor's sword and killed him directly!!! Are you implying the murderer moved the victim's body?Sound: Wipe  Imagine the game scrolling from Gant's side to Lana's side during this line; it was too big a file to capture as an animation. Yes. Sound: Whack Exactly.Sound: Realization !Sound: Light Bulb  The only logical conclusion... is that there was a "reason." Do you know what that reason was, Mr. Wright? (I've finally figured it out...) Sound: Wipe  Sound: Wipe Phoenix is about to ruin a teenager's life to save a client who doesn't want to be saved. Music: Silence Please recall the witness's testimony. In the next instant, the jar was hit and flew through the air. I wasn't really reading the situation as the jar randomly flying into the air on its own, but okay. That would have to have been... the impact the man made when he was knocked into the wall?Sound: Realization   I don't remember the armor being that close to the shelf in Gant's office. Maybe he moved everything around after the incident. what would he have hit?Sound: Realization  Sound: Light Bulb  Sound: Objection Music: Suspense Yes. The idea of some of the SL-9 evidence being fabricated is a good way to hide this twist from the player while still telling a fair mystery story. The game shows the armor and the sword from the moment we get into Gant's office, and isn't shy about pointing out how Gant and Lana covered up, fabricated, and manipulated the evidence in the case, and yet I still took the blood pool being on Lana's side of the office at face value. Well played.  Sound: Realization No... Mr. Wright... You can't be thinking...Sound: Light Bulb Yes. Another possibility?Sound: Desk Slam Of course the perpetrator would have had no idea, but nevertheless! Myself, I've been advancing the dialogue almost on autopilot at this point. Ema's involvement was a lot more direct than I was thinking, and I hadn't fully processed it yet. Mr. Wright? What's the matter?Sound: Realization If events took place as the defense theorizes... then the outcome is obvious. In that moment... Music: Silence Sound: Whack      The silence following Ema striking Neil Marshall in the dark is amazing here. You mean... Mr. Marshall died... because of... me...? Sound: Guilty  Sound: Thud 4  So it was the witness who took the victim's life... and then proved so with her own testimony! This is unprecedented! Sound: Gallery The witness stand is empty; I guess that was Ema fainting earlier.  Sound: Objection  Sound: Drama Pound Music: Telling the Truth  What... What are you saying!? I'm sorry, Ms. Skye, but given the circumstances... Joe Darke murdered Prosecutor Marshall!Sound: Desk Slam  We've finally gotten Lana to show some emotion. Not exactly how I would've preferred to do it. Imagine that, coming from you. !Sound: Light Bulb  The reason you moved Prosecutor Marshall's body... Sound: Realization So originally I was thinking Gant was more directly involved in Neil Marshall's death, thus why he was willing to kill Detective Goodman to keep it covered up. Murdering a detective just to hide some evidence tampering seems a little extreme? Maybe if the truth got out, Lana would be able to talk about all kinds of shady poo poo that Gant had done the last two years since then, and Gant was really trying to keep Lana under control? I assure you, Mr. Edgeworth, I have no idea what you're talking about.Sound: Whack  I'm afraid you're going to have to have proof. Tell me... Sound: Desk Slam I can think of one thing... E-evidence?Sound: Light Bulb I'm willing to bet you don't. If we don't have evidence, then we'll have to rely on testimony. Sound: Realization  Both parties involved in the incident are dead. ...!Sound: Light Bulb (We certainly can't get dead people to testify.)Not without Maya here, anyway.   Music: Silence  Hmph. Touché, Ms. Skye. Sound: Realization ...!Sound: Light Bulb (You mean, there's still another possibility?) What do you mean, Mr. Edgeworth?Sound: Whack How many times have we been down to one last possibility now?  Sound: Realization Okay, didn't see that one coming. Anyone remember seeing a message anywhere? Music: Suspense For better or for worse, Mr. Marshall did not die instantly.  in one manner or another. That's.... That's impossible!Edgeworth you're going to make us be the ones to back up your bluff, aren't you? Sound: Gavel Well, Mr. Wright? This is the only possibility left to you. (I've got to think back to the Court Record!) I really have no idea here. (No...) That's not really what I was saying. I just don't remember seeing anything like that. Another nice parallel to the second episode, though, with Redd White faking the evidence that Mia had written out "Maya" as her killer's name. Well.Music: Silence It looks like this is as far as we can go with this.Sound: Realization Mr. Wright. You disappoint me. I'm not pretending not to know what's going on to protect Ema... I'm just geniunely clueless... That's not better, is it? My feelings...?Sound: Light Bulb If we overlook the victim's message... one he would have written literally with his last breath, Sound: Desk Slam Well then you present this message if you're so sure about it! Music: Suspense  (This is it.) (I can't afford any more mistakes.)Sound: Realization quote:If we say we have some evidence up front, we just skip the previous scene and move straight into the next one. Sound: Desk Slam  Mr. Wright!Sound: Whack  Sound: Drama Pound Do not be mistaken, Ms. Skye.Sound: Realization ...!Sound: Light Bulb  There is only one thing we seek: the truth.Sound: Desk Slam No matter how painful it may be.Sound: Gavel Now then, Mr. Wright.I was kind of hoping they'd forgotten about us.   Well, I've got nothing. Looks like there's a penalty on this decision, too. Where's the message?
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God that puzzle was such horseshit, I agree. I wanted to warn you but wasn't sure if it would conflict with the spoiler policy
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It's easily the worst puzzle of the case. At least the evidence room tape had a kind of hypnotic madness to it. I initially wrote part of the case, but then I remembered megaphone meekins.
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