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The Oldest Man posted:something that gets me every time is that the last known living wild passenger pigeon was shot I looked up the reference so I could share: quote:54. Ectopistes migratorius. Passenger Pigeon. Once an abundant summer resident. Several pigeon roosts in Pike county were well known to old settlers. On March 24, 1900, a solitary individual was shot by a small boy near Sargents, close to the boundary line of Pike and Scioto counties, and mounted by the late wife of ex-Sheriff C. Barnes, of Pike county. This is the only authentic record for twenty years.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 06:25 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 00:29 |
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Remember that show deadliest catch and how they'd overfill the boats with crab to the point that by the time they got to port a large amount of the crabs would be dead and unable to be sold. Finally, Deadliest Catch can be cancelled due to all the crabs going extinct.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 06:27 |
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Unless posted:my favorite version of this is when the solution to pollution was dilution so now we can’t eat fish more than twice a week without getting mercury poisoned its insanely hosed up that we treated the entire ocean as a giant heatsink for our all of out trash that it's permanently polluted with insane amounts of oils, heavy metals, and micro/nano-plastics that are completely destroying the ability for most live to thrive and that's just pollution, to say nothing of temperatures! even if we magically cut co2 entirely overnight, a ton of ocean life is done for just from trashing them so badly. straight up in our lifetimes, and and not that far away, we'll see the complete extinction of whales, and probably other species like dolphins to follow. they already can't reproduce anymore and the last ones are on their way out.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 06:42 |
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Xaris posted:its insanely hosed up that we treated the entire ocean as a giant heatsink for our all of out trash that it's permanently polluted with insane amounts of oils, heavy metals, and micro/nano-plastics that are completely destroying the ability for most live to thrive keep thinking about how long life has existed on this planet and then humans come along and gently caress it all up in the blink of an eye
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 06:44 |
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all life finding equilibriums over millions of years only to get obliterated in 150 years. crazy
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The Oldest Man posted:Good air source heat pumps will work pretty efficiently down to -13F, after that, hope you got resistive electric backup another option is to start your house or apartment on fire.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 07:09 |
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err posted:all life finding equilibriums over millions of years only to get obliterated in 150 years. crazy even 150 years is being pretty fuckin' generous, more like 100
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 07:16 |
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Jizzny Princess posted:Remember that show deadliest catch and how they'd overfill the boats with crab to the point that by the time they got to port a large amount of the crabs would be dead and unable to be sold. The intent was right there in the name so I think you mean "completed"
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 08:51 |
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more like Dead Catch amirite
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 08:57 |
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Death crab for cutie
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 09:18 |
Dude where's my crab
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 09:39 |
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Remember when Red Lobster had the all-you-can-eat crab and then they ran out of crab?Jizzny Princess posted:https://twitter.com/ScienceNotDogma/status/1743361723938304305 Lol this is the exact same thing that happened to the Atlantic cod fishery. Once they fished the cod out the whole structure of that ecosystem reorganized itself (or, "collapsed" is probably a more apt term) so there basically wasn't a place for them anymore in the trophic levels, so the numbers never recovered
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 11:16 |
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I am reading about those crabs and, apparently, before they had to cancel the season for the first time last year the council in charge of setting the quotas had more than double the amount of crab (from 19 to 45 million pounds) allowed to be caught in just 3 years (2017 - 2020), while knowing their population was at risk due to climate change. And then they are all suprised pikachu about the goddamn "missing" crabs. What crabs you assholes?
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 12:39 |
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Dokapon Findom posted:Lol this is the exact same thing that happened to the Atlantic cod fishery. Once they fished the cod out the whole structure of that ecosystem reorganized itself (or, "collapsed" is probably a more apt term) so there basically wasn't a place for them anymore in the trophic levels, so the numbers never recovered ecosystems are unbelievably cool.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 12:44 |
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I choose to believe that the Aliens from The Abyss gave the crabs sanctuary
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 14:11 |
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just glad i got to eat a lotta (edit: cheap!!!) snowcrab before... well, you know... what else should be on my list? i saw dolphin and whale mentioned - anything else?
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 15:42 |
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 15:53 |
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OIL PANIC posted:just glad i got to eat a lotta (edit: cheap!!!) snowcrab before... well, you know... Try and monch on some manatee before it goes away
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 16:04 |
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do NOT attempt to cook coral
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 16:05 |
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SixteenShells posted:do NOT attempt to cook coral Well duh it's already souis vide
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 16:07 |
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Zodium posted:oh? societies began to ossify around authority at some point... for reasons i don't think the book really makes crystal clear. chauvinism? chance? timing and industrialization? the authors don't actually seem super concerned, they seem more focused on demonstrating that things were not always the way they are now, and there's nothing inherently biological/etc. about how we structure our societies. which i find pretty hopeful. what i don't find hopeful, and what I'm thinking about with that post, is that we don't have space and time to play and leave and disobey anymore. literally, politically, and as a matter of survival. the threatening pressures of climate change make those things impossible; we all must get on the same page, immediately, or else. and it's just not something that's happened in the past. people disagreed, left, did their own thing, to either fail or flourish. People still have those desires, which we have dealt with for millennia now, but there's no room for them anymore, nor is there time. obviously that's gonna lead to some... problems. i'm not fleshing this out super well. it's beyond "well, people don't just get along." it's such a good book that i took too long to get through, and i probably need to read again or find some lectures by david wengrow to understand more fully.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:00 |
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not to worry friend, basically everyone is already on the same page and working together to realize our design of some millennia. we’re gonna get there
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:26 |
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https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1742985101896720426 When is this supposed to happen? I just checked the weather forecast for Boise and looked at the animation on Zoom.earth and don't see this.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:29 |
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Zeta Taskforce posted:https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1742985101896720426 https://www.aer.com/science-research/climate-weather/arctic-oscillation/ Seems to be coming later this next week.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:34 |
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that model is two days old. they're already projecting something more.... ahem, mild.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:34 |
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Xaris posted:i've got a new intel cpu and rtx 3090 ti i can lend you for a week, that'll keep you toasty PNW getting vermont weather, vermont getting, I dunno, mud. cool
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:36 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:even if it's off by some and it "only" gets to -20C that's still about as cold as it was outside of Moscow in December 1941 (sorry, that's my only frame of reference for "catastrophically cold winter") That’s not a map of temperatures, that’s a map of temperature anomalies. So it isn’t saying “it will be -50F” it is saying “it will be 50F degrees colder than average for that date”
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:37 |
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:yeah i dunno that i've given this enough thought, but one of the big ideas in the book is those three freedoms, and how they have shaped the development of human societies. there was once an ability to "play" with societal structure, sometimes have those structures vary within a society dependent upon season, etc. but that always required a certain amount of space/resources, lest you then impinge on another society's play space... i think you're fleshing it out very well, i just haven't had the wherewithal for posting much lately. so really it's me who isn't fleshing things out very well. in any case, the idea that a tendency which is initially helpful eventually reaches a critical point and becomes harmful, but now you can't go back so you have to figure something new out to go forward from there or die, is essentially dialectical materialist thinking. and there is every possibility we won't be able to do that this time. eventually we'll fail and die. that was always a possibility, in fact, it's a certainty. but there's also no other way than to try, because there's no going back.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:41 |
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Karcinisation, n. The convergent tendency of all fish species to be processed into imitation crab meat.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:55 |
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Cabbages and Kings posted:PNW getting vermont weather, vermont getting, I dunno, mud. Pretty much. I'm originally from the NEK about 15 miles from Canada. They had a brown Christmas for about the third time in my life. Boston is supposed to get 8 inches of snow tonight and tomorrow and its going to mostly miss my parents. So now Boston is getting Vermont weather.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 17:57 |
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plasticizers? in my foods? yes, universally. but fear not, consumer reports will help you identify lesser evils: quote:A serving of Pizza Hut's Original Cheese Pan Pizza, for example, had half the phthalate levels of a similar pizza from Little Caesars.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 18:18 |
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The fossil record of sharks goes back further than the fossil record for trees, but I know which one is going to last longer
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 19:21 |
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the sea is the universal sewer plastic mass is expected to outweigh all fish biomass in the oceans before 2050
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 19:22 |
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Hubbert posted:the sea is the universal sewer we can do it faster than that
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 19:24 |
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silicone thrills posted:Death crab for cutie
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 19:28 |
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Hubbert posted:the sea is the universal sewer The solution to pollution is dilution.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 19:29 |
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also i was gonna make a joke like "gently caress crabs they taste gross" but i remember all the conversations i had this summer where i was like "the bugs. Where. are they" and people quite earnestly told me they were happy because they hate bugs
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 19:29 |
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cash crab posted:also i was gonna make a joke like "gently caress crabs they taste gross" but i remember all the conversations i had this summer where i was like "the bugs. Where. are they" and people quite earnestly told me they were happy because they hate bugs I wonder how much they hate hunger
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 19:31 |
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emgeejay posted:https://twitter.com/seanw_m/status/1743076975567130818?s=46&t=m6fGiglUP1-mz5m0sRqpiw From a few pages back, but what is this? I'm in northern California and my Accuweather® forecast isn't going below 40° for the next few weeks. I don't see even a mild cold front coming in.
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 19:42 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 00:29 |
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it’s a model from two days ago showing something potentially funny that is unlikely to happen now
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# ? Jan 6, 2024 19:45 |