|
lmao more boeing quality.
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 05:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 15:48 |
|
|
Platystemon posted:Seattle Times, Jan. 5, 2024 at 6:00 am: To be somewhat fair to Boeing it’s identical to the Max 8 and 9, but Midjack posted:lmao more boeing quality.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 05:49
|
|
|
From FlightAware, it looks like the max altitude was 16k feet. I wonder if the plug fractured once the cabin pressurized and was then able to fit out the hole? Assuming that the plugs are the same as the other emergency exits that are physically too large to go out, only in.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 07:29
|
|
|
Man, what a timely failure. They are/were starting to get clearance to sell the Max in China again. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/20/boeing-wins-key-clearance-from-chinas-aviation-regulator-on-737-max-deliveries-report-says.html
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 07:41
|
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:To be somewhat fair to Boeing it’s identical to the Max 8 and 9, but It’s a bad design flaw that regulators have decided isn’t dire enough to ground the fleet over, but Boeing should not be allowed to introduce it to new models. There are limits to grandfathering, folks.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 07:59
|
|
|
Wombot posted:From FlightAware, it looks like the max altitude was 16k feet. I wonder if the plug fractured once the cabin pressurized and was then able to fit out the hole? Assuming that the plugs are the same as the other emergency exits that are physically too large to go out, only in. The picture looks like the entire frame ripped out, which I imagine bypasses that safety principle. The most astonishing part of the story is that there was an empty seat on a plane.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 10:57
|
|
|
https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7320798084869393710
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 11:03
|
|
|
I believe the plug is installed by Spirit when they send the fuselage over on the train from Wichita. There were a few fuselage issues last year that required massive rework on a whole lot of planes and now this... Plus there was the contract dispute and strike. I'm super anxious to know what the failure point was, whether an installation error or part defect or what. Just really grateful there were no major injuries and it happened during the initial climb out. I was involved in a few delivery prep jobs on that plane after factory completion, so it's unsettling seeing something I once was around in an incident. Vertical Fin issue around April 23: https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-supplier-spirit-aero-flags-31-mln-hit-737-fuselage-defect-2023-05-03/ Aft Bulkhead issue around August 23: https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/new-boeing-737-max-supplier-defect-delay-aircraft-deliveries-2023-08-23/
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 13:25
|
|
|
I've learned from this thread that Alaska Airlines is a trainwreck, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was their fault somehow. Thank god nobody was in that window seat.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 13:48
|
|
|
Whoever was sitting right next to the gaping hole in the airplane probably really regretted putting their coat in the overhead.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 13:59
|
|
|
EasilyConfused posted:I've learned from this thread that Alaska Airlines is a trainwreck, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was their fault somehow. LOLling RN at deviant ollam making such a big fuss about delta points on youtube to the point of moving all his business to alaska. I wonder what he is thinking right now.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 14:35
|
|
|
If it’s not Boeing I ain’t going (out a window)
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 14:40
|
|
|
Scam Likely posted:Whoever was sitting right next to the gaping hole in the airplane probably really regretted putting their coat in the overhead. It was a teenage boy who lost his shirt out the hole, but was otherwise fine (physically anyways).
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 16:47
|
|
|
maybe one of the yokels that shoots at the plane train scored a critical
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 17:31
|
|
|
SlowBloke posted:LOLling RN at deviant ollam making such a big fuss about delta points on youtube to the point of moving all his business to alaska. I wonder what he is thinking right now. Alaska had really good agreements with several other airlines so even if your plane didn't have the eskimo on the side they were a good place to earn the points.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 17:37
|
|
|
Midjack posted:Alaska had really good agreements with several other airlines so even if your plane didn't have the eskimo on the side they were a good place to earn the points. Alaska is enabling me to fly Fiji Business to Sydney and back in August for 110k miles and ~$150 round-trip from/to LAX, so yeah. I have to "suffer" economy on an A350 for the NAN>SYD and SYD>NAN leg, but I'm sure I'll survive. That said, now that I've exhausted my "bank" of Alaska miles I have to admit I'm not terribly enthusiastic about rebuilding it. United has service to LAX on a 777-200 to/from IAD and even the nicest narrow body can't beat the luxury of having actual room to get up and stretch if you want to.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 17:45
|
|
|
https://bsky.app/profile/fatapollo.bsky.social/post/3kidg57j4c22xhttps://bsky.app/profile/fatapollo.bsky.social posted:So get this.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 19:51
|
|
|
Flux Wildly posted:If it’s not Boeing I ain’t going (out a window) It's wild (and a bit sad) that Boeing has (largely through its own fault as a corporation, it must be said) clearly got issues throughout its project management, engineering and QC. Growing up as a plane-crazy youngster, Boeing had this aura of quality and engineering integrity, buoyed up by instances of famous instances where 707s, 737s and 747s had suffered a huge amount of structural/mechanical damage and kept (at least sort of) flying. The reputation was definitely in contrast to, say, the DC-10. What was the other old saying? "The ideal airliner would be designed by Lockheed, built by Boeing and marketed by McD-Douglas". That doesn't seem to be the case now.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 20:11
|
|
|
BalloonFish posted:What was the other old saying? "The ideal airliner would be designed by Lockheed, built by Boeing and marketed by McD-Douglas". So we have an airliner designed by McDD, built by subcontractors of Boeing, and marketed by NTSB mandatory reporting.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 20:22
|
|
|
babyeatingpsychopath posted:So we have an airliner designed by McDD, built by subcontractors of Boeing, and marketed by NTSB mandatory reporting. Marketed by Airbus’s backlog
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 20:45
|
|
|
BalloonFish posted:That doesn't seem to be the case now. It definitely isnt I'm going to see if the plug is installed by spirit. I would not be surprised
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 22:08
|
|
|
the FAA has grounded all -9's until inspections can be performed
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 22:18
|
|
|
`Nemesis posted:the FAA has grounded all -9's until inspections can be performed All, or just the 171 of the same configuration that they announced earlier today? https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-statement-temporary-grounding-certain-boeing-737-max-9-aircraft A significant amount of those have already been inspected and are cleared to fly again. If they expanded to all, that would be a really bad sign that they found a repeat issue that affects more than just that config. Which would be real bad for Boeing, but real good for anyone holding a short on their stock.
|
|
#
?
Jan 6, 2024 23:26
|
|
|
We have an... interesting fellow at one of our other factories who's flown cross-country to receive training with my group, he worked for Boeing for years, and refuses to fly on their aircraft, so he has to call the poor travel agents to find him a string of puddle-jumpers across the US every time he flies out. I bet he's feeling smug right now.
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 00:47
|
|
|
How many bolts +/- is he holding?
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 01:11
|
|
|
Elviscat posted:We have an... interesting fellow at one of our other factories who's flown cross-country to receive training with my group, he worked for Boeing for years, and refuses to fly on their aircraft, so he has to call the poor travel agents to find him a string of puddle-jumpers across the US every time he flies out. "I'm not owned, I'm not owned!", I continue to insist as I climb into my fourth CRJ-200 of the day. That said, I'd imagine the A220 is this dude's salvation.
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 01:23
|
|
|
So is it hate or fear?
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 01:31
|
|
|
Saukkis posted:So is it hate or fear? Both!
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 01:36
|
|
|
You'll never guess which Boeing 'craft he worked on! SLS
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 01:52
|
|
|
BIG HEADLINE posted:"I'm not owned, I'm not owned!", I continue to insist as I climb into my fourth CRJ-200 of the day. It shouldn’t be hard to avoid Boeing on Delta these days.
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 02:14
|
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:It shouldn’t be hard to avoid Boeing on Delta these days. 520 Boeing aircraft out of a current fleet of 978: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_fleet Something tells me there's gonna be a longer wait on those 100 MAX 10s, though. >.>
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 02:27
|
|
|
Scam Likely posted:Am I an rear end in a top hat for sometimes wearing my backpack on my chest during landings just in case we have a rapid unschedule deplaning? The backpack contains my life's work. You should assume any physical object you bring with you is forfeit. But mostly: whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 04:09
|
|
|
BIG HEADLINE posted:520 Boeing aircraft out of a current fleet of 978: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_fleet Yeah but DL has the good ones! Just stay away from the max and dreamliner and you'll be good.
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 04:46
|
|
|
There’s not much good about the 739
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 04:53
|
|
|
BIG HEADLINE posted:520 Boeing aircraft out of a current fleet of 978: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_fleet I just completely forgot that MSP is mostly airbus because that’s their airbus maintenance base and that biased things a bit for me I suppose. Also 717 shouldn’t count as Boeing… while that’s from the final bad years of MD they didn’t seem to gently caress up the DC-9 much. (Can’t say the same for Alaska…)
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 05:01
|
|
|
KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:There’s not much good about the 739 it’s not as long as the 737-10M will be
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 05:43
|
|
|
If anyone saw a door fall out of the sky, the NTSB would like to know! https://twitter.com/avgeekjake/status/1743849387024073166?s=46
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 06:48
|
|
|
a patagonian cavy posted:it’s not as long as the 737-10M will be Good news because the max 10 will never get produced
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 06:54
|
|
|
In another set of messages, employees questioned the design of the Max and even denigrated their own colleagues. “This airplane is designed by clowns, who are in turn supervised by monkeys,” an employee wrote in an exchange from 2017.
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 07:54
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 15:48 |
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:If anyone saw a door fall out of the sky, the NTSB would like to know! Has the NTSB tried going door to door?
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2024 08:01
|
|