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mobby_6kl posted:She didn't recognize their authority to give orders The rioters thought the cops were secretly on their side and just saying what they were supposed to say to keep up kayfabe. Which was probably the case for some of them, but not the guys that are the last line of defense.
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Given that the bar for cops being allowed to shoot people is currently about 2 feet underground, I don't see this lawsuit going anywhere.
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InsertPotPun posted:what does this mean? like...in the realm of reality how can you make this argument? "she wasn't violent before she got to the violence therefore she was never violent" is...AN argument i guess? She wasn’t violent when she was too far away from anyone to be violent to them, and by the time she was in the same room as anyone to be violent to them, she had a hole in her head preventing her from doing any violence. QED she was never violent.
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KillHour posted:Given that the bar for cops being allowed to shoot people is currently about 2 feet underground, I don't see this lawsuit going anywhere. “Your Honor, as you can clearly see, the victim was a whh-ite woman…”
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KillHour posted:Given that the bar for cops being allowed to shoot people is currently about 2 feet underground, I don't see this lawsuit going anywhere. Yeah, but on the topic of the Onion: https://www.theonion.com/judge-rules-white-girl-will-be-tried-as-black-adult-1819594949
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I'm reminded something from the askbox of an old webcomic:quote:Q: Can I join the comic, and fondle Mrs. Harper? This is basically how the insurrectionists are trying to argue. It was all just a peaceful protest. But if they'd gotten close enough to kill any Congressmen, then it wouldn't have been a peaceful protest.
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Jean-Paul Shartre posted:She wasn’t violent when she was too far away from anyone to be violent to them, and by the time she was in the same room as anyone to be violent to them, she had a hole in her head preventing her from doing any violence. QED she was never violent. This post is a better argument against the cops in this case than anything using the word "Ambushed". "The cops should have either left or used a non-lethal response" is a far better argument than "I have no idea why the police were scared, they just randomly shot a person for no reason"
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StumblyWumbly posted:This post is a better argument against the cops in this case than anything using the word "Ambushed". Weren't there still congresspeople in the room at the time? I thought it wasn't quite evacuated yet. So leaving the room wouldn't have been a good option as far as keeping the mob away from elected officials goes.
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StumblyWumbly posted:"The cops should have either left or used a non-lethal response" is a far better argument than "I have no idea why the police were scared, they just randomly shot a person for no reason" Funny how "the cops should have used a non-lethal response" never comes up when cops murder unarmed minorities (an activity J6ers overwhelmingly support). Almost as if that's a bad faith argument.
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The rules lawyering with state/police brutality when it comes to bobbit is ridiculous. It is a right wing/anarchist whataboutism. Someone jumping through a broken door window while you are covering the escape of congressional members who were literally 30 feet down the hall in plain view, after numerous warnings and threats for minutes as they hacked down the door? Yeah you better expect you're getting perforated, no questions asked. You can't violently force your way into a military base and expect the MPs to come out and politely pepper spray you. There's plenty to discuss regarding to ACAB, but trying to argue this very specific scenario is bad faith and the only acceptable genuine explanation is to say she should not have been shot because the concept of the state and laws should not exist.
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Friendly clarification that Babbitt is the current gently caress Around Find Out champion for J6. Bobbitt cold sliced off her husband's wang and flung it out of a window.
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Judge rejects Giuliani’s request for ‘indefinite extension’ of deadlines in Georgia election casequote:The presiding judge in Georgia’s election interference case over the 2020 presidential election has rejected Rudy Giuliani’s request for more time to file pretrial motions.
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Oh I though Giuliani had been disbarred already. Apparently his disbarment is still going through: https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/giuliani-urges-ethics-board-reject-dc-disbarment-bid-over-election-case-2023-11-02/
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It would almost be funnier if he weren't disbarred specifically because he must practice law 14 hours a day to cover his settlements.
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dr_rat posted:Oh I though Giuliani had been disbarred already. Apparently his disbarment is still going through: He’s in a weird limbo but also not really. The disbarment procedures can take aaaaaaaages, but it’s a pretty foregone conclusion and he can’t do any lawyering until it’s concluded anyway. He’s de facto disbarred. It’s like his law license is in jail, waiting until its sentencing happens to go to prison.
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Scags McDouglas posted:It would almost be funnier if he weren't disbarred specifically because he must practice law 14 hours a day to cover his settlements. Who is the sad sack getting court mandated terrible legal council in this situation?
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Rand Brittain posted:I'm reminded something from the askbox of an old webcomic:
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Gyges posted:Who is the sad sack getting court mandated terrible legal council in this situation? Could we make it Trump? The legal arguments would be about the same quality as he’s got now, but Rudy is a funnier kind of incompetent.
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Ynglaur posted:You forgot to add, "In the name of [whatever]". a this is mYY-uh You Niiited States Declarative Appeal of whAtever
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Scags McDouglas posted:Friendly clarification that Babbitt is the current gently caress Around Find Out champion for J6. if she venerates babbitt, drop like bad habit if she venerates bobbitt, be calm as a hobbit
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Peanut Butler posted:if she venerates babbitt, drop like bad habit
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It's amazing that he isn't even willing to lie about this poo poo. He's just out there saying, "yes, I want to overthrow the government. " https://twitter.com/HeatherCherone/status/1743686568827601219 Trump said "So what?" when told the rioters wanted to lynch Pence. https://abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-probe-uncovers-new-details-trumps-inaction/story?id=106131854 Charlz Guybon fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jan 7, 2024 |
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I forgot Giuliani was still under criminal indictment and has no money. How is that supposed to work out for him? Also the photo in that last tweet doesn’t look real.
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I mean doing more legal work for trump, unless he manages to bring down more charges on himself, won't actually change anything about his financial situation. Rudy 100% currently isn't smart enough to remember to be asked to be paid in advance.
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What are the penalties for practicing law without a license (or a suspended one)?
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Gyges posted:Who is the sad sack getting court mandated terrible legal council in this situation? Oh, oh, I've got you covered. Donna Adelson, there's still time. He would have been perfect for every Markel defendant. I'd also select Franke / Hildebrandt if they didn't just plea. Special consideration to Lindsay Shiver except I doubt Rudy can practice in the Bahamas.
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DarkHorse posted:What are the penalties for practicing law without a license (or a suspended one)? Varies by state but is generally an actual crime. In NY you can get prison time for it
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Although as you can chose to represent yourself without a license, if you're charged you can be lawyer one more time and they can't do anything about it! The secret legal hack they don't want you to know!!!
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I don't think this will surprise anyone https://twitter.com/AmoneyResists/status/1744098714266849721
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Then you can't prove Trump approved any of the more inciting tweets. The defense rests. 
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Just verbally poo poo on the tweets in court and Trump will jump up to claim and defend them; they’re great tweets, the most perfect tweets
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Piss tape is limited hangout
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Scags McDouglas posted:Friendly clarification that Babbitt is the current gently caress Around Find Out champion for J6.  actually she threw it in the garbage disposal
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It’s entirely possible that the Special Counsel’s office actually does know exactly which tweets Trump sent. It’s not like Trump is good at infosec. He does the mob boss poo poo and doesn’t say poo poo, but he’s not exactly tech-savvy. They subpeonaed the hell out out of twitter and we live in a panopticon dystopia of technology, it’s not hard to tell what device did a thing and correlate that with whether or not the President had it.
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Installing a keystroke logger on the president’s phone would be illegal. But monitoring the output of (one of) the keyloggers a foreign country installed on his phone would be proper counterespionage procedure, right?
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Trump civil trial question. It was mentioned the Trump lawyers joined in doing dumb poo poo in regards to the law clerk during the trial (either to appease Trump or to create avenues for appeals). I know the judge didn't take the bait, does he hand down his verdict and then go after them?
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No, but also what would you consider "go after them" to entail?
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sebmojo posted:
Naw it was def out a car window into a field. Someone even found it in time for it to be reattached and he did some porn. Unless I missed a joke in which case, whoooosh
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Scapegoat posted:Trump civil trial question. It was mentioned the Trump lawyers joined in doing dumb poo poo in regards to the law clerk during the trial (either to appease Trump or to create avenues for appeals). I know the judge didn't take the bait, does he hand down his verdict and then go after them? I’m pretty sure they got fined for stupidity just like he did. Which is how it’s done in civil court.
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Paracaidas posted:No, but also what would you consider "go after them" to entail? I thought there was chatter of disciplinary action.
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