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I liked the short lived 2010s cartoon where everyone was kinda pointy. It had some fun ideas like the episode where they got their powers scrambled, and Reed was completely willing to let him and Ben stay that way while fixing Sue and johnny because he knew Ben cared more about his looks than Reed did. There were also funny moments in that episode like when Sue uses her new fire powers to try to stop falling rubble and turns it into fireballs making things worse, and Johnny has this exchange with her: "You tried to make a forcefield didn't you?" "Shut up..." Also their personalities were affected, so there was a moment where Johnny makes a quip about someone else, quickly apologises because a bit of Sue is coming through, then blurts out "No, no, it was FUNNY dammit..."
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Jan 7, 2024 16:19
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muscles like this! posted:The funniest actor age thing is in Morbius where there's a flashback to 20 years before (IIRC it explicitly says 20 years) with Morbius as a little kid. Except 20 years ago Jared Leto was a grown rear end man. Motherfucker is in his 50s. I believe Panic Room was twenty years before Morbius so there you go.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:e: Even if you didn't know any of the backstory behind the making it is clear that the movie was basically a patchwork of edits and reshoots. Characters have hazy backstories and motivations, so stuff just kind of happens. Like Morbius needs to do his research in international waters for reasons so his friend loans him a boat except it is also full of mercenaries?
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There are several obviously unrealized plot threads I seem to recall Chekov's Robotic Arm, or possibly Schrodinger's robotic arm Which was in a bat lab for reasons Honestly its a big blur and I have no idea
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Probably the biggest is that Morbius creates three vials of vampire making juice. He uses one, the villain uses on and then the third is never referenced again.
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muscles like this! posted:Probably the biggest is that Morbius creates three vials of vampire making juice. He uses one, the villain uses on and then the third is never referenced again. He was probably gonna turn Vulture into a vampire or some poo poo in Morbius 2.
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It is especially goofy because the movie ends with the love interest being turned into a vampire the traditional way through bites. So the vial is kind of pointless.
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Jan 7, 2024 18:13
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I'm wondering if they just wanted another Super Soldier Serum Vial Macguffin for the Spider Villain Verse But probably it's just an editing artifact
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Vampire and/or werewolf movies in this day and age seem prone to getting massacred on the cutting room floor by people who apparently don't watch the finished product.
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Jan 7, 2024 18:23
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Best Fantastic Four on screen is in Venture Bros. Ben is a walking callus, Sue’s skin turns invisible when she gets stressed, Human Torch is on fire all the time and feels pain, and Richards is exactly the same.
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Jan 7, 2024 18:24
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Colbert is a very good Not Reed, but that's the episode with the Grand Galactic Inquisitor so it gets extremely overshadowed.
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Phanatic posted:Best Fantastic Four on screen is in Venture Bros. Ben is a walking callus, Sue’s skin turns invisible when she gets stressed, Human Torch is on fire all the time and feels pain, and Richards is exactly the same. The Terrific Trio in Batman Beyond were pretty good too. Man that show could easily have just coasted by updating the original rogues gallery but it didn't.
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the holy poopacy posted:It's pretty simple, the FF are largely defined by their family dynamic and that's not something that action movie execs are interested in.
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The X-men should co-opt some of Fantastic Four's camp if you ask me. "Claws OUT!" *SNIKT* Xavier, raising fingers towards his temple: "It's brainin' time." Far in the background, Cyclops feels unseen.
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Baron von Eevl posted:Colbert is a very good Not Reed, but that's the episode with the Grand Galactic Inquisitor so it gets extremely overshadowed. IGNORE ME
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Jedit posted:The other issue with an FF movie is that you need to make Reed Richards likeable when he's by definition a massively arrogant prick who canonically is only not evil because Sue loves him. Just don't write him like that. Who cares? Reed Richards should be like Hank Hill
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Phanatic posted:Best Fantastic Four on screen is in Venture Bros. Baron von Eevl posted:that's the episode with the
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Every movie based on events that happened in real life stars actors that are too loving old for the roles they are playing. Fuckin always. 40 year olds playing 28 year olds. 30 year olds playing 17 year olds. War movies are the worst offender. By far. And I have to constantly hear people on the internet talking about how so and so would be perfect to play so and so in a movie about such and such and they always always always think someone should be cast who is way too old
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:War movies are the worst offender. By far. Definitely. The Tom Hanks role in SPR would have been more accurate if it had been played by Tom Hanks circa Big.
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Phanatic posted:Definitely. The Tom Hanks role in SPR would have been more accurate if it had been played by Tom Hanks circa Big. World War 2 was largely fought by weak, spindly children who made the cast of Superbad look like the Expendables by comparison. And more people should know about that!
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Phanatic posted:Definitely. The Tom Hanks role in SPR would have been more accurate if it had been played by Tom Hanks circa Big. Would of been better if he'd been played by the same character too. Shouldn't of wished to be big during war time buddy!
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Thanks for the honest Mobuis reviews everyone.Ghost Leviathan posted:Vampire and/or werewolf movies in this day and age seem prone to getting massacred on the cutting room floor by people who apparently don't watch the finished product. I think it comes from watching so many edits that, even when they watch the final version, they forget that they cut out things that would have made the scenes they left in make sense. They know "evil agent was locked in a box with rats as a child" so when the scene comes up where the evil agent just stops following the protagonist into a basement where there are rats, it makes perfect sense. To them. Everyone else is just left wondering why the bad guy stopped chasing the hero when he had them trapped. Or filmmaking schools need to start teaching theory of mind because the rich failsons who become producers are so emotionally and intellectually stunted.
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metztli posted:Tony Stark and Doctor Strange are both massively arrogant pricks who are humanized in part by love interests. I'm pretty sure they could make a palatable version of Reed, even though he is colder than either of those other characters. The trick would be making Sue an absolute powerhouse who will not put up with his poo poo at all and Reed shows he's trying really hard to be true to himself while also not loving that relationship up; could be compelling with the right actors. Any FF movie needs to include this scene: 
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Thanks for the honest Mobuis reviews everyone. What it actually is, is clueless studio executives frantically turning a dial labelled "demographics" while looking at their marketing ghouls, hoping to hit that magical billion dollar sweet spot.
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Biplane posted:What it actually is, is clueless studio executives frantically turning a dial labelled "demographics" while looking at their marketing ghouls, hoping to hit that magical billion dollar sweet spot. "Add a scene where only Chinese is spoken, I don't care why. Make it work"
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Every movie based on events that happened in real life stars actors that are too loving old for the roles they are playing. Fuckin always. 40 year olds playing 28 year olds. 30 year olds playing 17 year olds. War movies are the worst offender. By far.
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Having old people play young people helps making me, an old person, not feel that old. Why, I could almost pass for someone who still goes to high school *sucks in dadbod gut*
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Biplane posted:What it actually is, is clueless studio executives frantically turning a dial labelled "demographics" while looking at their marketing ghouls, hoping to hit that magical billion dollar sweet spot. was that what happened with Disney's Wish? some execs thinking, how can we make a Disneyverse that isn't Kingdom Hearts because that will be next year... in terms of old people playing younger ones, wasn't there some old dude in Japan who got into porn because he hit up the right producer and said that as an older man, seeing all these fit young dudes made him not identify with the porn, so make the actor an old dude, now we got a new target audience!
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maybeadracula posted:I think Wish was definitely a case of working backwards from an executive mandate instead of starting with a story idea and moving forward i recall something online about a rough draft of Wish where Asha was the princess and the wishing star was an actual starboy? The art looked like something from Tangled style. And then we got Wish. It seriously looks like an AI movie.
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Cowslips Warren posted:was that what happened with Disney's Wish? some execs thinking, how can we make a Disneyverse that isn't Kingdom Hearts because that will be next year... I haven't seen wish, but yes, 110%.
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Cowslips Warren posted:i recall something online about a rough draft of Wish where Asha was the princess and the wishing star was an actual starboy? The art looked like something from Tangled style. I personally think the art style is fine, they should always be willing to try different things. I kind of liked the texture The story was just ok and the songs ranged from forgettable to horrible repetitive poo poo and nonsense misunderstandings of idioms. "Throw caution to every warning sign" is some Archie Bunker level poo poo
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Thanks for the honest Mobuis reviews everyone. That happens a lot, also stuff gets cut because executives don't understand or care why the scene is there or think any exposition will 'confuse' people, and so you end up with movies and shows that refuse to explain basic context while overexplaining the obvious.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That happens a lot, also stuff gets cut because executives don't understand or care why the scene is there or think any exposition will 'confuse' people, and so you end up with movies and shows that refuse to explain basic context while overexplaining the obvious. Was watching something recently about editing now days, and they were talking about how much more of a Hollywood film is actually done in editing and post now even compared to ten years, and saying it partly because executives love to be able to just change poo poo around. Particularly for things like the marvel stuff where everything just shot in front of a green screen anyway. But yeah obviously an executive getting poo poo changed in post won't care if the changes cause issues with other parts of the movie. Not what they're concerned about. That's other peoples problem. Edit: the only time I can remember hearing about a producer care about that sort of stuff to the opposite extent, was when I was listening to an interview with either the writer or the director of one of the later hellraiser movies, and they were talking about when the script was wrote they include extra hellraiser lore stuff. A producers reads it and then comes in and starts asking them all the detailed questions about how their lore fit into the existing hell law, and he was apparently just cross referencing it with tiny details from the previous films. The writer/director guy said they were just thinking, wait is this producer like the one person on earth who really cares about hellraiser lore stuff? Also this is like a direct to DVD movie were making here. WTF? Apparently the producers did actually have some pretty good constructive notes though so. The rare good producer story I guess. dr_rat has a new favorite as of 06:57 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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