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The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Covenant was pretty great

Got queer robots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skppRyDy2Ng

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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Jewmanji posted:

To be honest I'm not even attached to my original take. Alien and Aliens are classics, needless to say. I like Alien 3 enough, Alien 4 was bad, Prometheus was fun, and I didn't see Covenant but heard it was "ok".

However I do feel very strongly that anyone who likes the franchise should play Alien: Isolation.

I was getting drunk and playing the free play mode just to mess with the xenomorph. My favorite game of all time

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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feedmyleg posted:

In my experience, when people say "Hollywood doesn't make good movies anymore" they mean "Hollywood doesn't make good sci-fi/action blockbusters aimed at me anymore."

Sort of. They make movies aimed at way too many people which makes the film seem bland and disconnected

Who was black Adam for? That movie felt like an ai made it. It was silly, dark, gritty, light hearted, weird and just all over the place in a way that was in no ways appealing.

That four quadrant crap needs to go

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



feedmyleg posted:

In my experience, when people say "Hollywood doesn't make good movies anymore" they mean "Hollywood doesn't make good sci-fi/action blockbusters aimed at me anymore."

This is a weird thing to claim when multiple people in the industry, up to and including Mat Damon, have been very vocal about the hollowing out of film and how that means (among other things) movies that in the past could be more focused on appealing to a smaller but still significant cross-section of audiences don't get a shot now. You can either make $100+ million dollar tentpoles or crowdsourced/self-funded indies. Sometimes you can eek out something in the middle by working with bigger indie studios like A24 or going to one of the streamers. That's it.

Even if, in absolute numbers, Hollywood is making more movies every year that passes the majority of that output remains movies have to appeal to EVERYBODY (which sucks) or be very niche stuff. There's a lack of opportunity to make anything that isn't required to be everything to everyone or hypertargeted to generate buzz, awards appeal, etc. Could you get something like "The Bone Collector" or "District 9" or "How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days" made today? Those are all movies in the $30-50M budget range that ended up being solidly profitable over time, but didn't exactly put up great numbers in the theater on opening weekend (District 9 being the exception, but it fell off pretty hard in subsequent weeks).

I agree that the kneejerk reaction of "there aren't any good movies/tv/music/etc" anymore is often more about individuals not feeling appealed to, and lord knows I try to be aware that just because something isn't for me doesn't make it bad or not worthwhile. However in this case there's a clear body of evidence to support the sentiment, coming from both audiences and the creatives and the industry itself, so fixating on individual taste lets the studios off the hook for encouraging this status quo. Audiences have to be cultivated as much as creative endeavors, they don't just manifest into thin air. If audiences are told for years that their options are most generic IP slop, niche award show bait, or stories that should've been movies but got shoved into a streaming series format then there's only so much you can blame audiences for thinking whatever few other things might be out there aren't worth their time or money.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
Man, The Bone Collector. That movie ruled. The Fugitive is always my go-to example of this type of mid-budget movie. Imagine the made-for-Netflix version of a film like that nowadays, starring Chris Pratt and a bunch more explosions.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Barbenhimer was probably one of the greatest movie things to happen in a long time that sadly hollywood will take the wrong ideas from but it really put up the idea of movies not appealing to everyone suddenly gaining cross appeal interest and killing it

It was so dope. People felt obligated to go out of their comfort zone and try something they don’t normally go for

Maybe and hopefully liking it in the end

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
i think it was kinda tasteless

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Snooze Cruise posted:

i think it was kinda tasteless

lmao

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
i dunno maybe i am a hypocrite because i make jokes about 9/11, but i just think it was kinda eye rolley children's toy and war crimes were made into a meme which ended up being used in some marketing.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
Nolan Osama biopic when

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post

mycot posted:

Nolan Osama biopic when

I would be there day one, unlike Oppenheimer

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

mycot posted:

Nolan Osama biopic when

I would love for a totally serious Nolan directed movie where Osama Bin Laden plays Yoshi’s Island DS to pass the time and whacks it to furry porn

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Snooze Cruise posted:

i dunno maybe i am a hypocrite because i make jokes about 9/11, but i just think it was kinda eye rolley children's toy and war crimes were made into a meme which ended up being used in some marketing.

It was dope.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Also it was grassroots not made by a studio but by the fact that these two movies were coming out. People getting offended about it idk.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

I guess everyone is gonna skip over this kickass teaser? This got me really excited and then I found out it’s the new Oz Perkins movie and I am pumped.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Fans have hypothesized that the weird title is probably long legs

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.

Brocktoon posted:

I guess everyone is gonna skip over this kickass teaser? This got me really excited and then I found out it’s the new Oz Perkins movie and I am pumped.

The trailer has me unnerved in the right way.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Mat Cauthon posted:

This is a weird thing to claim when multiple people in the industry, up to and including Mat Damon, have been very vocal about the hollowing out of film and how that means (among other things) movies that in the past could be more focused on appealing to a smaller but still significant cross-section of audiences don't get a shot now. You can either make $100+ million dollar tentpoles or crowdsourced/self-funded indies. Sometimes you can eek out something in the middle by working with bigger indie studios like A24 or going to one of the streamers. That's it.

Even if, in absolute numbers, Hollywood is making more movies every year that passes the majority of that output remains movies have to appeal to EVERYBODY (which sucks) or be very niche stuff. There's a lack of opportunity to make anything that isn't required to be everything to everyone or hypertargeted to generate buzz, awards appeal, etc. Could you get something like "The Bone Collector" or "District 9" or "How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days" made today? Those are all movies in the $30-50M budget range that ended up being solidly profitable over time, but didn't exactly put up great numbers in the theater on opening weekend (District 9 being the exception, but it fell off pretty hard in subsequent weeks).

I agree that the kneejerk reaction of "there aren't any good movies/tv/music/etc" anymore is often more about individuals not feeling appealed to, and lord knows I try to be aware that just because something isn't for me doesn't make it bad or not worthwhile. However in this case there's a clear body of evidence to support the sentiment, coming from both audiences and the creatives and the industry itself, so fixating on individual taste lets the studios off the hook for encouraging this status quo. Audiences have to be cultivated as much as creative endeavors, they don't just manifest into thin air. If audiences are told for years that their options are most generic IP slop, niche award show bait, or stories that should've been movies but got shoved into a streaming series format then there's only so much you can blame audiences for thinking whatever few other things might be out there aren't worth their time or money.

Oh yeah, this poo poo sucks, the film industry's situation is hosed right now. I'm just saying that this particular complaint tends to ring extremely hollow because it's so generic. Basically every era after the beginning has had people say "Hollywood doesnt make good movies anymore."

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Alien isolation was too hard. I like games that are just a Skinner box where I get mental treats for pressing buttons, I don't want to have to strategise

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

The Peccadillo posted:

Covenant was pretty great

Got queer robots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skppRyDy2Ng

Nah, that movie was utter arse, and no amount of gay robots is going to change that.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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edogawa rando posted:

Nah, that movie was utter arse, and no amount of gay robots is going to change that.

Do you have any idea how utterly wrong you are? Have you thought about this?

You might want to reflect

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

CelticPredator posted:

Do you have any idea how utterly wrong you are? Have you thought about this?

You might want to reflect

Nah, movie was poo poo.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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edogawa rando posted:

Nah, movie was poo poo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a440-jN8drc

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GaqVWqEXU

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Nah you're wrong. Alien: Covenant was fine.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

MonsieurChoc posted:

Nah you're wrong. Alien: Covenant was fine.

Lots of crazy people coming out of the woodwork here.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

edogawa rando posted:

Nah, movie was poo poo.

It stunk and was boring. Prometheus at least was nice to look at.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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drat lots of insane people here today

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Another trailer thread fight brewing it's amazing

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
I like that my distaste for barbiehemmier has ended up being this red herring of what the real fight was going to be.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

Snooze Cruise posted:

I like that my distaste for barbiehemmier has ended up being this red herring of what the real fight was going to be.

A Simpsons episode plot

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
i also did not enjoy that particular film

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Peanut President posted:

i also did not enjoy that particular film

thats fair and totally okay!

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.
Covenant was pretty good. It had aliens, dumb humans, and sicko robots. What more could you want

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Neither Barbie nor Oppenheimer nor Alien Covenant had Nicholas Cage or Ray Livingston generated by a ps3. loving weak.
Sounds like a skill issue tbh

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Peanut President posted:

i also did not enjoy that particular film

mans never hated an alien movie in his life

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Colonel Whitey posted:

Covenant was pretty good. It had aliens, dumb humans, and sicko robots. What more could you want

Danny McBride in his cowboy hat with a pulse rifle or smartgun. Would've instantly made Covenant 100 times better if it had that. Just imagine a scene of Tennessee putting on all the smartgun gear and poo poo. Danny McBride would've owned that lmao.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill

Brocktoon posted:

I guess everyone is gonna skip over this kickass teaser? This got me really excited and then I found out it’s the new Oz Perkins movie and I am pumped.

Its interesting that I see a ton of people over the moon for Oz Perkins and I've never heard of him... looked him up and hes written 2 things that I've never heard of. Are they worth watching? People seem to love this guy.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Yeah, they're dope. Very much slow mood pieces that rely on steadily building tension, though, so if that's not your jam don't bother.

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Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Alien Covenant was not the worst Alien film. That's Alien3. But Covenant is still bottom of the barrel as far as the Alien series goes.

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