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it's not a problem simply contract the icbm modernization overhaul to spacex
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poisonpill posted:The free market wins out every time over our adversaries because it’s the most efficient and innovative username post combo
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the lost tech era of America is so drat funny it really is our best chance at disarmament
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Owlbear Camus posted:it's not a problem simply contract the icbm modernization overhaul to spacex Air power rests at the apex of the first triad of victory, for it combines Mobility, Flexibility, and Initiative.
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:the lost tech era of America is so drat funny i love that 40k's imperium and 2nd-3rd succession war era battletech called this phenomenon, but instead of centuries it happens within living memory gradenko_2000 posted:Air power rests at the apex of the first triad of victory, for it combines Mobility, Flexibility, and Initiative. literal true fact: when i was in the usaf around the turn of the century they were really trying to adapt "total quality management" to running a military branch
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gradenko_2000 posted:Air power rests at the apex of the first triad of victory, for it combines Mobility, Flexibility, and Initiative.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:it's also true of the softwarer/hardware at the base layer of most banks/airlines/etc. Yeah where I work the computer systems are over 50 years old, although the reason why nobody alive knows how to fix it is because the boss had them all executed so that none may reveal their secrets.
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Owlbear Camus posted:i love that 40k's imperium and 2nd-3rd succession war era battletech called this phenomenon, but instead of centuries it happens within living memory yeah but they trained people to go through all the rituals of maintainance etc.
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Owlbear Camus posted:i love that 40k's imperium and 2nd-3rd succession war era battletech called this phenomenon, but instead of centuries it happens within living memory In battletech it happened because of material attrition, like factories getting orbital striked and engineering facilities getting stepped on by giant robots In real life it happened because the system was incapable of sustaining itself at all
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Frosted Flake posted:What is the point of having a Deputy Secretary if the mandarins in the Secretary's office will just run things? If this is how they act when the SecDef get sick for a few days, how bad do you think the Joe is?
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cat botherer posted:Broke: nuclear triad It wouldn't surprise me if the submarine launched nukes were in a similarly bad situation.
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WrightOfWay posted:It wouldn't surprise me if the submarine launched nukes were in a similarly bad situation. yeah when the biden presidency started, the status quo was laughing at the obvious farce that is the f35. then there was the disastrous evacuation of afghanistan, the nato stockpile depletion in ukraine, and now the usn ship shortage in the red sea. to think the nukes are in any better shape, especially after obama unleashed the 101st mckinsey division on them, seems increasingly like cope.
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are there any good books giving a historic overview of guerrilla warfare? I read the first few chapters of max boot's and, man, dude lives up to his name. you can tell he's an american spook because out of the 50 or so chapters only one is on vietnam and there are zero about native americans (though there is one on the kkk during reconstruction). I forget the author whose book I skimmed the preface of before looking at the boot book, but it was even worse
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WrightOfWay posted:It wouldn't surprise me if the submarine launched nukes were in a similarly bad situation. Subs are going to be the nuclear arm that remains working the longest because subs just kill people if they stop working so they're always prioritized for maintenance and overhauls, and the people working on subs know they will die if they don't maintain them properly which is a pretty good incentive to do that vs someone at a missile silo in the Dakotas who can get jacked to the gills on meth five days a week and nothing bad happens
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didnt this very thread have a former nuclear sub service person in here explaining the subs are not in fact alright?
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fanfic insert posted:didnt this very thread have a former nuclear sub service person in here explaining the subs are not in fact alright? I'm sure they're all fine c: My experience is from the seawolf class from more than 10 years ago. The 688 and Ohio classes have deeper experience pools to draw from, so they might be better off, but not by much I reckon based on current crew shortages.
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It doesn't matter if the silos and subs don't actually work, for as long as plausibly some of them work, the deterrent is intact.
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by that logic none of them need to actually exist, so long as we have spreadsheets that say they do in fact exist. we can keep cutting checks to contractors for maintenance, obviously, but cut our manpower requirements down to zero. the perfect liberal solution
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fanfic insert posted:didnt this very thread have a former nuclear sub service person in here explaining the subs are not in fact alright? they're not but if you look at the last couple years of the sub readiness report vs surface fleet readiness report, its going to be years more before we should expect to see subs degenerate to the level of the surface navy where the nuclear deterrent becomes non-credible because you can't believe that the missiles will actually launch vs silos and bombers where theyve been maintained by evangelical meth heads for the last couple decades and they totally work bro trust us
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poisonpill posted:by that logic none of them need to actually exist, so long as we have spreadsheets that say they do in fact exist. we can keep cutting checks to contractors for maintenance, obviously, but cut our manpower requirements down to zero. the perfect liberal solution Who's gonna call a nuclear bluff?
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Owlbear Camus posted:i love that 40k's imperium and 2nd-3rd succession war era battletech called this phenomenon, but instead of centuries it happens within living memory In Foundation the eventual collapse happens because of some sort of unclear institutional rot that gradually gets worse until the empire can no longer sustain itself. One of the (few) examples shown was the once silent magnetic trains now making noise as they flew along the tracks.
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Trabisnikof posted:lol at including the nuclear bombers as part of the triad still a bunch of u.s. nuke bombers are in overseas air bases. probably a second strike weapon i guess
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Nothus posted:If this is how they act when the SecDef get sick for a few days, how bad do you think the Joe is? It's very funny that Kamala could probably make the case that Joe is incapacitated and become president but she's on too many benzos to stage a palace coup.
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Kamala has been replaced by a hologram because she stopped showing up at the office.
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Hatebag posted:a bunch of u.s. nuke bombers are in overseas air bases. probably a second strike weapon i guess "in bases" being more literal these days https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/crashed-b-1b-bomber-carcass-visible-at-south-dakota-base
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The Voice of Labor posted:are there any good books giving a historic overview of guerrilla warfare? The short answer is no, because more than most forms of warfare, it's culturally specific. Guerrilla warfare is about people, what they believe, where they live, how they are organized. That means that studying the groups of people involved, like the Ashanti or Spanish Guerrillas in the Peninsular War is useful, but their methods of warfare, what worked to defeat them, or if and how they succeeded, depends on their geography. By that I don't only mean, for example, in Malaya, the areas surrounding the rubber plantations where the MNLA operated from, but also that Chinese Malays were a landless subset of the population, which confined them to certain areas defined by their economic activity. A guerrilla group from that population would, naturally enough, be co-located. The same is true for the hill tribes and desert nomads in the French colonial experience, and as you alluded to, the very specific societies of the Great Plains Indians. For the sake of comparison, the Cherokee and Iroquois, being Eastern Woodland Indians, did not wage war in a way at all recognizable to their later cousins on horseback. So, a general historical survey of guerrilla warfare would have to explain away why one group raided on horseback and the other with snowshoes, flattening the dynamic most closely related to the population itself, because, well, they both carried out raids. I suppose a large enough historical survey could try to separate these sort of things, but if you just look at the books written for soldiers of the colonial powers, almost every group of people in Africa fought in remarkably different ways. Some were avid users of guns, some fought on horseback, some from ambushes, other preferred pitched battles etc. Yes they were all Africans, and they were engaged in asymmetrical conflicts with European powers, but there wasn't a sort of shared military experience between them.
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The Oldest Man posted:"in bases" being more literal these days https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/crashed-b-1b-bomber-carcass-visible-at-south-dakota-base lol they ejected while landing and turned the bomber into a bomb 
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Grilled Beef posted:lol the Ukrainians claim that Abrams tanks they recieved were taken directly from storage without repairs and cant be sent into battle due to various mechanical failures
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It's really cool how the combined military might of about 50% of the world's GDP has just turned completely into smoke when faced with an actual near peer conflict.
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Where did all that money go Toud think you’d end up with some functional military equipment by accident after spending trillions of dollars over years. it seems harder to not build anything. Can someone help me out here. why not just build a tank that works? why can the defense contractors not make a tank? didn’t congress require the army to keep those factories open?
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poisonpill posted:Where did all that money go I don't know if it's a subset or all of them, but the answer is https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#26a3d5ea3d78
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poisonpill posted:Where did all that money go A lot of McMansions and luxury cars in NoVA and Texas
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poisonpill posted:Where did all that money go My hunch is they have to keep building the biggest, most fancy looking, scifi looking weapon and these weapons don't necessarily work as good weapons.
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Nothus posted:A lot of McMansions and luxury cars in NoVA and Texas No, the US would never let people siphon off our military to fund personal dachas
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Retromancer posted:It's really cool how the combined military might of about 50% of the world's GDP has just turned completely into smoke when faced with an actual near peer conflict. poisonpill posted:Where did all that money go great question Bel Shazar posted:I don't know if it's a subset or all of them, but the answer is https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#26a3d5ea3d78 Nothus posted:A lot of McMansions and luxury cars in NoVA and Texas wrong answers though if i write down "money" on a piece of paper and sell it to a guy for a dollar, and then a second guy buys a ten year an insurance contract with a third guy betting fifty dollars that the piece of paper i sold isnt worth anything, and then the third guy bundles the expected insurance contract income into a security and sells pieces of it to five hundred different additional guys for a dollar each in exchange for incomes shares that the second guy and many other second guys are paying the third guy for the next ten years, thats five hundred and fifty one dollars of gdp it's not that all that gdp was misallocated somehow its that most of it is entirely fake bullshit
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