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poisonpill posted:Where did all that money go If you have actual industries, that's an opportunity for labor to gain power. Send the factories oversees to use cheap semi slave labor to break the unions. Break up production so that the parts for a plane are sourced from 30 different states instead of a central industrial area. Do away with pensions, lower salaries, and force lower skilled workers to try to do the work. Worship the small business owners so that any remaining capacity is decentralized. Actually building something that works would require having actual industry. If you have real industry, the skilled workers can bargain to keep more of their value. To keep the owners from just grifting everything, the government would have to exercise some control over factory owners. Since the government nominally answers to the common people, that control could lead to rights and environmental regulation and what not. Maybe someone else could explain it better, but the real enemy of the United States is it's own labor force. Those people must be kept down so that the elites can continue to suck up excess profits. It's not sustainable because you cannot maintain an industrial society under those conditions.
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To synthesize the above two posts, it was a source of frustration for the nobility in the Later Middle Ages and Early Modern Era that increasingly sophisticated military production strengthened urban craftsmen to the point that they were able to form powerful guilds and secure their privileges, in their context, political power. In Italy, where warfare was almost continuous, this so strengthened the urban centres where the goods needed for military campaigns were produced, that they were able to seize political power entirely, reporting to the Pope or Holy Roman Emperor without being subject to any feudal nobility.
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Fell Mood posted:Maybe someone else could explain it better, but the real enemy of the United States is it's own labor force. Those people must be kept down so that the elites can continue to suck up excess profits. It's not sustainable because you cannot maintain You know the current wave of AI-generated trash is really highlighting that capitalists would much rather live in a cesspool than cede a single iota of power to labor, and that extends to everything, not just highly organizable factory labor. Not being able to maintain a military that can actually fight is well in line with failing municipal utilities, internet services that don't work anymore, the creative world being flooded with machine learning diarrhea, and planes that randomly have important pieces explode in midair. Frosted Flake posted:To synthesize the above two posts, it was a source of frustration for the nobility in the Later Middle Ages and Early Modern Era that increasingly sophisticated military production strengthened urban craftsmen to the point that they were able to form powerful guilds and secure their privileges, in their context, political power. In Italy, where warfare was almost continuous, this so strengthened the urban centres where the goods needed for military campaigns were produced, that they were able to seize political power entirely, reporting to the Pope or Holy Roman Emperor without being subject to any feudal nobility. 
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Frosted Flake posted:To synthesize the above two posts, it was a source of frustration for the nobility in the Later Middle Ages and Early Modern Era that increasingly sophisticated military production strengthened urban craftsmen to the point that they were able to form powerful guilds and secure their privileges, in their context, political power. In Italy, where warfare was almost continuous, this so strengthened the urban centres where the goods needed for military campaigns were produced, that they were able to seize political power entirely, reporting to the Pope or Holy Roman Emperor without being subject to any feudal nobility. Those filthy commoners disrespected their noble betters? How ghastly! The printing press was a mistake.
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DancingShade posted:Those filthy commoners disrespected their noble betters? How ghastly! This is what Liberals actually believe
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Could the US MIC produce a decent crossbow?
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Halloween Jack posted:Could the US MIC produce a decent crossbow? sign a nine-figure contract with me and my llc first so that we can research how to bring the multipurpose joint tactical mechanical bolt thrower to fruition
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a book is just a tool, sadly one for blunting the memory and zeal for study of those it is used on now an oral tradition of tens of thousands of lines of poetic verse, thats a real solid system of knowledge transfer [slaps fender] never steer you wrong
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Halloween Jack posted:Could the US MIC produce a decent crossbow? I could imagine a real killer sizzle reel with high speed low drag operators sneaking through a compound and silently taking out tangos with their crossbows like in a video game
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Cerebral Bore posted:if you build a tank that doesn't work the government will give you even more money to fix the problems that you yourself created this is what happened with the British MoD and the Ajax. General Dynamics built a vehicle that gave the passengers tbi's and then told the MoD that if they don't want that to happen they'll have to be given more money to make a version where that doesn't happen. And they got it.
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Halloween Jack posted:Could the US MIC produce a decent crossbow? they managed to make those tomahawks the seals use to desecrate corpses, so that’s a start
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KomradeX posted:This is what Liberals actually believe Sort-of, because remember they also see that as the genesis of capitalism and are always talking about innovative Northern European burghers versus incurious Southern European aristocrats. So, they believe that the merchants deserve their place at the top of a hierarchy because of the invisible hand as opposed to attaining their station from birth, or something.
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Regarde Aduck posted:this is what happened with the British MoD and the Ajax. General Dynamics built a vehicle that gave the passengers tbi's and then told the MoD that if they don't want that to happen they'll have to be given more money to make a version where that doesn't happen. And they got it. lol that rules quote:In June 2021 it was revealed that trials of Ajax variants were halted from November 2020 to March 2021 due to excessive vibration and noise, leaving crews suffering from nausea, swollen joints and tinnitus. Test crews were then limited to 105 minutes inside and 20 miles per hour (32 km/h). The excessive vibration while moving was also damaging electronic systems and preventing armament from stabilising. Suspension faults on the Ajax variant meant turrets could not fire while moving.[25][26] The hulls were of inconsistent lengths and had non-parallel sides, which means the vibration problems do not manifest in a uniform manner making it exceedingly difficult to determine if vibration is from a fundamental design problem or build quality failures. can’t even build a tank with parallel sides for 5.5 billion
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Fell Mood posted:If you have actual industries, that's an opportunity for labor to gain power. Send the factories oversees to use cheap semi slave labor to break the unions. Break up production so that the parts for a plane are sourced from 30 different states instead of a central industrial area. Do away with pensions, lower salaries, and force lower skilled workers to try to do the work. Worship the small business owners so that any remaining capacity is decentralized. Its been in the DNA of this country since the very beginning. America was formed on the principle that land owners should have the absolute freedom to do anything they wanted, and paradoxically since you can't have absolute freedom if everyone is free, the land owners began to find ways to ensnare everyone else in chains. Capitalism was ultimately embraced by America because it was the best way to ensure absolute freedom for a select few by denying it to everyone else. Clip-On Fedora has issued a correction as of 06:45 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Clip-On Fedora posted:Its been in the DNA of this country since the very beginning. America was formed on the principle that Land owners should have the absolute freedom to do anything they wanted, and paradoxically you can't have absolute freedom if everyone is free, the Land owners began to find ways to ensnare everyone else in chains. absolute freedom doesn't mean poo poo unless you have other people who are absolutely unfree
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bedpan posted:absolute freedom doesn't mean poo poo unless you have other people who are absolutely unfree Yep!
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Regarde Aduck posted:this is what happened with the British MoD and the Ajax. General Dynamics built a vehicle that gave the passengers tbi's and then told the MoD that if they don't want that to happen they'll have to be given more money to make a version where that doesn't happen. And they got it. Some uk goons with a podcast did a whole episode about this piece of garbage. Search for "Podcasting is Praxis: Tanks for nothing."
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Is there a podcast or authoritative book on the development of the F-35? And if not, why not?
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poisonpill posted:Is there a podcast or authoritative book on the development of the F-35? And if not, why not? Best I can do for you is this SA thread on the F35 from 2015 https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3627558
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Clip-On Fedora posted:Its been in the DNA of this country since the very beginning. America was formed on the principle that land owners should have the absolute freedom to do anything they wanted, and paradoxically since you can't have absolute freedom if everyone is free, the land owners began to find ways to ensnare everyone else in chains. Capitalism was ultimately embraced by America because it was the best way to ensure absolute freedom for a select few by denying it to everyone else. It’s very funny to me that Americans learn this from childhood such that they’re obsessed with the document rebellious barons made the king sign as an example of “freedom”, when it’s really about feudal privilege and their ability to do with their land, property and peasants as they wish without owing the crown, and so the nation, anything. I know American children probably learn about the Magna Carta in a vacuum with no context of the Barons’ Revolt and feudal law, it’s just very funny what “freedom” and “liberty” mean to Americans and how that warps history. On the one hand, meaningless dates to memorize by rote, so it probably bounces off, but on the other it’s pretty crazy to look at the Barons’ Revolt or any of these other episodes in Whig history, the Revolutionary War, for example, and adopt the liberal ideology they’re intended to imbue. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 07:31 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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the only thing we learn about the Magna Carta is that it was signed in 1215
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the only thing we learn about the Magna Carta is that it was signed in 1215
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Raskolnikov38 posted:the only thing we learn about the Magna Carta is that it was signed in 1215 By bad King John, who was a cowardly lion, and poorly advised by Sir Hiss.
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it makes sense in a country where lots of companies have figured out how to make executives and shareholders fantastically rich without the companies themselves actually needing to profit that similar innovations have allowed the MIC to make impossibly huge sums of money for executives and shareholders without making any weapons.
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Frosted Flake posted:No. What happened as the centralized state started to erode was that the Church and regional Dux took over infrastructure, so we see rebuilding of walls and bridges. The bridge in Merida was rebuilt by the local bishop and a Goth general, for example. They typify the new coalition, Germanic military authority and Christian civil authority, emerging to seize the reins of power. Connections between regions definitely weakened though. People are going to glomp on to whoever is the first person to actually materially improve their lives with local infrastructure so hard and so fast that you can establish a hereditary fiefdom off of it. What I'm saying is that if Trump's Infrastructure Week had actually happened rather than been dumb grift he'd have won.
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poisonpill posted:Where did all that money go It's an iterative process. You grift some money to build a somewhat functional even if ridiculous expensive tank but that's already in the bank. How do you improve this quarter result. Edit: Oldest Man typed it up already and I missed two pages genericnick has issued a correction as of 11:54 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Car Hater posted:DRM for ammunition The 6.8x51mm cartridge is basically this.
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Orange Devil posted:People are going to glomp on to whoever is the first person to actually materially improve their lives with local infrastructure so hard and so fast that you can establish a hereditary fiefdom off of it. the only problem with infrastructure week is theres nobody to build anything except the loser rear end companies that are already busy taking 30 years to pour a new highway exit ramp.
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Orange Devil posted:People are going to glomp on to whoever is the first person to actually materially improve their lives with local infrastructure so hard and so fast that you can establish a hereditary fiefdom off of it. 100% It happened on a smaller scale with Robert Moses, Huey Long, FDR and Fred Gardiner just because they built stuff during the Depression.
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Ansar Santa posted:Internet-of-things pike. Horse DRM. Arquebus bricked by over-the-air update. Bombards-as-a-service. Proprietary crossbow bolts
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Ansar Santa posted:Internet-of-things pike. Horse DRM. Arquebus bricked by over-the-air update. Bombards-as-a-service. Proprietary crossbow bolts Contemporaneously China had repeating crossbows, hand cannons, a whole bunch of different artillery and bombards, glaives and fire-lances.
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Orange Devil posted:People are going to glomp on to whoever is the first person to actually materially improve their lives with local infrastructure so hard and so fast that you can establish a hereditary fiefdom off of it. Isn't that basically Peron?
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Orange Devil posted:Contemporaneously China had repeating crossbows, hand cannons, a whole bunch of different artillery and bombards, glaives and fire-lances. The Gunpowder Age: China, Military Innovation, and the Rise of the West in World History A first look at gunpowder's revolutionary impact on China's role in global history The Chinese invented gunpowder and began exploring its military uses as early as the 900s, four centuries before the technology passed to the West. But by the early 1800s, China had fallen so far behind the West in gunpowder warfare that it was easily defeated by Britain in the Opium War of 1839–42. What happened? In The Gunpowder Age, Tonio Andrade offers a compelling new answer, opening a fresh perspective on a key question of world history: why did the countries of western Europe surge to global importance starting in the 1500s while China slipped behind? Historians have long argued that gunpowder weapons helped Europeans establish global hegemony. Yet the inhabitants of what is today China not only invented guns and bombs but also, as Andrade shows, continued to innovate in gunpowder technology through the early 1700s—much longer than previously thought. Why, then, did China become so vulnerable? Andrade argues that one significant reason is that it was out of practice fighting wars, having enjoyed nearly a century of relative peace, since 1760. Indeed, he demonstrates that China—like Europe—was a powerful military innovator, particularly during times of great warfare, such as the violent century starting after the Opium War, when the Chinese once again quickly modernized their forces. Today, China is simply returning to its old position as one of the world’s great military powers. By showing that China’s military dynamism was deeper, longer lasting, and more quickly recovered than previously understood, The Gunpowder Age challenges long-standing explanations of the so-called Great Divergence between the West and Asia.
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poisonpill posted:I could imagine a real killer sizzle reel with high speed low drag operators sneaking through a compound and silently taking out tangos with their crossbows like in a video game
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Orange Devil posted:Contemporaneously China had repeating crossbows, hand cannons, a whole bunch of different artillery and bombards, glaives and fire-lances. it's ridiculous how wide open China's tech tree is, on top of a powerful econ bonus. One of the best AOE2 civs.
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Orange Devil posted:People are going to glomp on to whoever is the first person to actually materially improve their lives with local infrastructure so hard and so fast that you can establish a hereditary fiefdom off of it. Ansar Santa posted:Internet-of-things pike. Horse DRM. Arquebus bricked by over-the-air update. Bombards-as-a-service. Proprietary crossbow bolts
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I think factory towns are a normal and necessary part of an industrialized society. China built loads of them. If you have a factory complex that needs tens of thousands of workers, it makes sense to make sure those people can live close by, and then it makes sense they can buy their groceries, educate their children, do sports and other recreational activities etc etc close by. Otherwise you are putting a huge tax on their wellbeing by imposing a shitton of commute time on them, which from a capitalist perspective is time they could be working, and from a socialist perspective is an unnecessary drain on quality of life.
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Orange Devil posted:Contemporaneously China had repeating crossbows, hand cannons, a whole bunch of different artillery and bombards, glaives and fire-lances. China ſtole their carriage deſigns from Martin Lockeheede
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