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In times like these, I always like think about one of Lovelock's more imaginative and dreadful takes on the future. Paraphrased from Gwynne Dyer's Climate Wars, forgive my phoneposting: quote:[...] in Lovelock’s hundred-year scenario—or two hundred years, or however long it takes for the full effect of the 500-parts-per-million-plus carbon loading to be fully expressed in terms of higher global temperature—the great bulk of the Earth’s land surface turns to desert and scrubland, with only the Arctic basin and Greenland remaining as ‘the future centres of an appropriately diminished civilisation.’
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Jan 9, 2024 02:28
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More doom graphs: https://twitter.com/EliotJacobson/status/1744382036029190469 https://twitter.com/EliotJacobson/status/1744440161319211169
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Jan 9, 2024 03:02
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lmao during the college football championship game there was a commercial for... oil and gas, hyping up how necessary oil and gas is for hospitals. they can't save lives or do anything without oil and gas hell world
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Jan 9, 2024 03:24
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lol found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laTjYPf0ukk
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Jan 9, 2024 03:25
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im crack pinging over here all over again
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Jan 9, 2024 03:25
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i just got my drivers license renewed and it doesn't expire until 2032. lol yeah sure
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Jan 9, 2024 03:27
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https://twitter.com/Sammy_Roth/status/1744503743083921750?t=S3sJdaRNHMzIXzQS_LIkAQ&s=19
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Jan 9, 2024 03:30
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[Biosphere Collapse] Jeez. This is bad.
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Jan 9, 2024 03:31
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Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:lmao during the college football championship game there was a commercial for... oil and gas, hyping up how necessary oil and gas is for hospitals. they can't save lives or do anything without oil and gas technically they're right. modern hospitals could not exist without oil. everything is all mega plastics (from oil), everything uses tons of electricity, everything there is mined from congo or w/e and processed with oil machinery
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Jan 9, 2024 03:32
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Xaris posted:technically they're right. modern hospitals could not exist without oil. everything is mega plastic, everything uses tons of electricity, everything there is mined from congo or w/e and processed with oil machinery yeah it owns
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Jan 9, 2024 03:33
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Communist Cop posted:https://twitter.com/Sammy_Roth/status/1744503743083921750?t=S3sJdaRNHMzIXzQS_LIkAQ&s=19 Wow lol
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Jan 9, 2024 03:33
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The Protagonist posted:It's been touched on before in this very thread, probably ad nauseum, but there's probably something to be said about the common mythology of humanity's resiliency versus their resourcefulness Sure. Not in any form that Western whitey would consider civilized, though.
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Jan 9, 2024 03:35
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Communist Cop posted:https://twitter.com/Sammy_Roth/status/1744503743083921750?t=S3sJdaRNHMzIXzQS_LIkAQ&s=19 great comeuppance for this scam product and certainly this extends to all plastic bottle drinks.
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Jan 9, 2024 03:37
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plastinating our brains since conception
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Jan 9, 2024 03:54
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oh, don't cremate or bury me when i die i fully intend to be a Body Worlds exhibit, the plastination was free!
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Jan 9, 2024 04:10
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Despite often feeling “overwhelmed” by the problems facing humanity, President Obama revealed he also advises his own children to try and have an optimistic outlook—saying this is what “sustains [his] spirit.” The father of two revealed that his elder daughter, Malia, had come to him seeking advice on how to stay motivated trying to end global warming. He said young people are beginning to question, “What’s the point? Because the world is burning.” “I said to [Malia] we may not be able to cap temperature rise to 2 C, but here’s the thing, if we work really hard we may be able to cap it at 2.5 C instead of 3C. Or 3 instead of 3.5 C. “That extra centigrade might mean the difference between whether Bangladesh is underwater. It might make the difference as to whether 100 million people have to migrate or only a few. That matters; it makes a difference. “It’s worth fighting for. That’s a lot of people.”
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Jan 9, 2024 04:45
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lol lmao
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Jan 9, 2024 04:51
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Obama sitting in his 11.75 million mansion with inflation adjusted future cost of 200 billion, observing a world at 2.5c and saying 3.5c is definitely where we draw the line
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Jan 9, 2024 04:59
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isn't civilization basically toast at 3.5-4c I mean beyond the levels of hosed that we are at 1.5-2c
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Jan 9, 2024 05:03
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i heard that clouds stop forming at 8C, so as long as we keep it to 7.5C we should be fine
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Jan 9, 2024 05:17
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It's awesome that Obama also tells his daughter meaningless platitudes to reassure her. What does "work really hard" entail in his example? Forget for a moment that the end result of that unspecified work is still a bleak future which is ever-increasingly filled with chaotic perpetual disasters and death as the stable climate our agrarian society relies upon spirals wildly out of control, a future which again is only possible if we "work really hard." But what is the work? Because to me it seems like the work is directly at odds with the goals of global capitalism, and so while some optimistic fools are "working really hard" to fix things, others are actively making everything worse while living lavish disconnected lives of obscene wealth. Re-reading that, it actually sounds like he is just reassuring himself. "President Obama revealed he also advises his own children to try and have an optimistic outlook—saying this is what “sustains [his] spirit.”" His spirit is sustained by lying to his children. Amazing.
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Jan 9, 2024 05:26
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the planet's dead, cloud and so are you
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Jan 9, 2024 05:26
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telling your kids that 2.5c is ok, and fine just lmao
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Jan 9, 2024 05:27
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The Protagonist posted:It's been touched on before in this very thread, probably ad nauseum, but there's probably something to be said about the common mythology of humanity's resiliency versus their resourcefulness on the plus side I don't think we're going to have to wait too much longer to get an answer to this question e: looking at all the people I know having kids and mouthing "what the gently caress"
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Jan 9, 2024 05:28
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toggle posted:telling your kids that 2.5c is ok, and fine it is fine. for him.
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Jan 9, 2024 05:30
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Obama is a bad man, news at 11
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Jan 9, 2024 05:30
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The Protagonist posted:It's been touched on before in this very thread, probably ad nauseum, but there's probably something to be said about the common mythology of humanity's resiliency versus their resourcefulness I don’t get this, yes humans are able to tolerate a lot of bullshit. this thread might as well be an example. this is clearly maladaptive.
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Jan 9, 2024 05:50
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Stereotype posted:It's awesome that Obama also tells his daughter meaningless platitudes to reassure her. What does "work really hard" entail in his example? Forget for a moment that the end result of that unspecified work is still a bleak future which is ever-increasingly filled with chaotic perpetual disasters and death as the stable climate our agrarian society relies upon spirals wildly out of control, a future which again is only possible if we "work really hard." But what is the work? Because to me it seems like the work is directly at odds with the goals of global capitalism, and so while some optimistic fools are "working really hard" to fix things, others are actively making everything worse while living lavish disconnected lives of obscene wealth. A lot of people worked really hard to get Obama elected lmao
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Jan 9, 2024 05:51
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lmfao. unperma him
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Jan 9, 2024 05:54
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anyway my old man has mad cash on hand and im helping him navigate purchasing solar lol. insane amount of scammers caused by NEM2 being ez subsidy and now that NEM3 SDGE is tightening the choke so they're even more desperate. batteries are expensive af lol. like 12k for the first battery before rebates.
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Jan 9, 2024 05:57
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Homeless Friend posted:anyway my old man has mad cash on hand and im helping him navigate purchasing solar lol. insane amount of scammers caused by NEM2 being ez subsidy and now that NEM3 SDGE is tightening the choke so they're even more desperate. batteries are expensive af lol. like 12k for the first battery before rebates. pfft. I can get a battery for $20 at the weed store
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Jan 9, 2024 05:59
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Imagining a solar oven but it's an off grid vape
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Jan 9, 2024 06:02
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*thinks harder than I've ever thought before* we're hotboxing the planet
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Jan 9, 2024 06:21
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Hubbert posted:*thinks harder than I've ever thought before* we're hotboxing the planet I was in favor of climate change before but when you put it like that I’m way more in favor of it
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Jan 9, 2024 07:14
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Hubbert posted:it's been wonderful to watch people in this thread's various iterations transform from tepid marxist optimism to broke-brain doomerism lol hahaha remember 2017? good times
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Jan 9, 2024 09:13
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Hubbert posted:oh, don't cremate or bury me when i die want my skeleton put in the wilderness with random objects placed about in a humorous way like an environmental storytelling set piece
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Jan 9, 2024 09:24
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It's funny there were years of smug posts on these forums about how RCP 8.5 was impossible and that the Paris Accords would limit us to <1.5c because we couldn't even say something like 2c+ was plausible with any legitimacy and only lunatics would talk about such wild off the cuff apolaclyptic doomsday scenarios not backed by any science smart people would believe in Now Obama is talking about how we should try and limit the temperature increase to 2.5c-3c and the bar has been set at "Well we can limit the disaster more than zero amount" and nitpicking over the methodology and premise of RCP 8.5 even though we are headed right for the temperature ranges outlined by it.
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Jan 9, 2024 10:01
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Rectal Death Alert posted:It's funny there were years of smug posts on these forums about how RCP 8.5 was impossible and that the Paris Accords would limit us to <1.5c because we couldn't even say something like 2c+ was plausible with any legitimacy and only lunatics would talk about such wild off the cuff apolaclyptic doomsday scenarios not backed by any science smart people would believe in The D&D climate thread is finally completely dead because the oil shills like Thug Lessons finally realized they couldn't keep saying that poo poo with a straight face.
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Jan 9, 2024 10:25
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wish you hadn't reminded me thug lessons exists
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Jan 9, 2024 10:27
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Rectal Death Alert posted:It's funny there were years of smug posts on these forums about how RCP 8.5 was impossible and that the Paris Accords would limit us to <1.5c because we couldn't even say something like 2c+ was plausible with any legitimacy and only lunatics would talk about such wild off the cuff apolaclyptic doomsday scenarios not backed by any science smart people would believe in We'd even have those discussions here in the C-SPAM thread. Graph posting followed by ~lively debate~ TBH I kind of miss those days
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