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Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


For me to poop on.

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Big City Drinkin
Oct 9, 2007

A very good

Fallen Rib
The whole “industry plant” thing is endlessly tiring because if you even point out it’s a thing people vehemently deny that it is and then accuse you of sexism.

The reason why most plants are women is because record label men with money who want to make more money know what sells. It’s gross but unfortunately true.

Also there are notable male fronted plants in the indie sphere (e.g the Strokes), but still it’s women who disproportionately bear the brunt of criticism in general, so of course it seems like they’re the only ones who could ever be plants. Also gross.

All that said, I love Wet Leg and the Strokes. The dinner party band is super mid though aside from Nothing Matters

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

skooma512 posted:

At that point, who even gives a poo poo? It's entertainment, so surprise, there's a lot of nepo-babies.

Is the music good? The end product doesn't lie and you generally can't get away with publishing bad music and still find success no matter who your dad is.

This remains an important truth in all this. Being related to a famous person is definitely an easier way to get your foot in the door, and there's less at risk if you fail, but people still have to like the end result to some extent. The real nepotism problem happens with behind-the-scenes roles, where you not only make more money but your job isn't even necessarily at stake if one or two projects bomb, because you're basically not allowed to be fired.

T Bowl
Feb 6, 2006

Shut up DUMMY
Now let's talk about how virtually all musicians who have great success grow up privileged. Gotta have free time to work on learning instruments and writing songs, gotta have money to buy expensive equipment.

The poor ones who still make it, hell yeah.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
i clicked on the nepo baby industry plant band video and thought it was boring. I guess they're getting called industry plants cuz how are they amassing so many views? Tiktok?

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!
With Wet Leg, a lot of it is misogyny, but they did appear incredibly polished and fully formed. That probably has as much to do with the fact that bands can't really build up a sound for 3 albums before crossing over any more. It happens (look at Wednesday and Rat Saw God), but where the stakes are initially much lower.

If Wet Leg have any sin, its how loving annoying and laboured that "Big D" line in Chaise Longe is. We get it, you sort of said "Dick" on the Radio 6 breakfast show, how subversive.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
Waxahatchee announced new album and tour.

Two Philly shows, one with gladie, one with snail mail, and while I like both, I’ve more recently seen gladie, as I missed out on the valentine tour so I might go for the snail mail night.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
My main concern for Wet Leg is drat that has got to be a lot of pressure for a follow-up album that has that many great tunes on it.

My fav is “Ur Mum”

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Disco Pope posted:

With Wet Leg, a lot of it is misogyny, but they did appear incredibly polished and fully formed. That probably has as much to do with the fact that bands can't really build up a sound for 3 albums before crossing over any more. It happens (look at Wednesday and Rat Saw God), but where the stakes are initially much lower.

If Wet Leg have any sin, its how loving annoying and laboured that "Big D" line in Chaise Longe is. We get it, you sort of said "Dick" on the Radio 6 breakfast show, how subversive.

I always find is funny with Wet Leg people point out they didn't do many gigs, between when they were formed and their first album and that's evidence they were just put together by a label. So between 2019 and 2022 not many gigs eh?

Bright Bart
Apr 27, 2020

False. There is only one electron and it has never stopped
My favourite EP from an unsigned artist that rocked but never amounted to anything more has to be DOM's S.B.G.G.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Phey_w41Q

It even had a single of sorts with Living in America, in that there was a version with Gucci Mane (who has had a soft spot for awkward white boys with stupid hair for decades now).

But I don't think dude was interested in promoting it or doing interviews. Then I understand he got side tracked with his work as a session musician/producer or whatever. And the music he did put out as DOM wasn't anything special.

If anyone else is a fan and can recommend something based on this style that'd be cool.

One of my favourite EP/LPs from an artist who isn't a professional musician has to be Ryan Gosling's Dead Man's Bones.

stoops
Jun 11, 2001

Bright Bart posted:

My favourite EP from an unsigned artist that rocked but never amounted to anything more has to be DOM's S.B.G.G.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Phey_w41Q

It even had a single of sorts with Living in America, in that there was a version with Gucci Mane (who has had a soft spot for awkward white boys with stupid hair for decades now).

But I don't think dude was interested in promoting it or doing interviews. Then I understand he got side tracked with his work as a session musician/producer or whatever. And the music he did put out as DOM wasn't anything special.

If anyone else is a fan and can recommend something based on this style that'd be cool.

One of my favourite EP/LPs from an artist who isn't a professional musician has to be Ryan Gosling's Dead Man's Bones.

I loved DOM, i thought his song Crazy Girl was awesome. I wouldn't be able to name another musician like that...maybe Ty Segall?

My favorite artist that never got to where I wanted them too was Oberhofer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM6jZX4vIV4

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Disco Pope posted:

With Wet Leg, a lot of it is misogyny, but they did appear incredibly polished and fully formed. That probably has as much to do with the fact that bands can't really build up a sound for 3 albums before crossing over any more. It happens (look at Wednesday and Rat Saw God), but where the stakes are initially much lower.

If Wet Leg have any sin, its how loving annoying and laboured that "Big D" line in Chaise Longe is. We get it, you sort of said "Dick" on the Radio 6 breakfast show, how subversive.

the difference with Wet Leg is that their music was actually good

oh god oh fuck
Dec 22, 2019

Ambitious Spider posted:

Waxahatchee announced new album and tour.

Two Philly shows, one with gladie, one with snail mail, and while I like both, I’ve more recently seen gladie, as I missed out on the valentine tour so I might go for the snail mail night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL3iHhERWJw

Happy she seems to be in a better place but the folky sound she's had since St Cloud doesn't hit the same for me as her previous three albums.

I did recently discover Allison Crutchfield's solo albums and I really love them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpYuZNaP7nE

thehoodie
Feb 8, 2011

"Eat something made with love and joy - and be forgiven"

oh god oh gently caress posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL3iHhERWJw

Happy she seems to be in a better place but the folky sound she's had since St Cloud doesn't hit the same for me as her previous three albums.

Weird, I feel the exact opposite. Though I love all her stuff. Excited for this new one!

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

oh god oh gently caress posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL3iHhERWJw

Happy she seems to be in a better place but the folky sound she's had since St Cloud doesn't hit the same for me as her previous three albums.

I did recently discover Allison Crutchfield's solo albums and I really love them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpYuZNaP7nE

I adore allison crutchfield’s solo stuff and am forever bummed I missed her at boot and saddle (rip) on the tourist in this town tour

https://youtu.be/vh6x9WhfCs4?si=im-Jx1BO5d0Pwxch

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Sprints Debut album is out now and it's pretty great. Maybe doesn't have quite the urgency and rawness of their eps which does take away from it a bit but still great.

Saw them live in Dublin at the end of last year and they are blistering live.

oh god oh fuck
Dec 22, 2019

thehoodie posted:

Weird, I feel the exact opposite. Though I love all her stuff. Excited for this new one!

Truly nothing wrong with it I just vibe more with the fuller indie rock sound

Ambitious Spider posted:

I adore allison crutchfield’s solo stuff and am forever bummed I missed her at boot and saddle (rip) on the tourist in this town tour

https://youtu.be/vh6x9WhfCs4?si=im-Jx1BO5d0Pwxch

I only found it by picking up one of her vinyls for ten bucks and I'm so glad I did

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
In Wet Leg's defence, they're from the Isle Of Wight and while there aren't a lot of places to play live there and it costs an absolute loving fortune to get a boat to the mainland, so they could very easily have done a load of gigs in pubs in Newport, Ryde and Cowes. See also Coach Party

ShaneMacGowansTeeth fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jan 9, 2024

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Isle of Wight looks bucolic as gently caress

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




priznat posted:

Isle of Wight looks bucolic as gently caress

Shame it's packed with absolute weirdos.

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


The Wet Leg girls had been making music independently for years beforehand.

Last Dinner Party: Nothing Matters is great but none of their other songs hit even close so far.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
I saw Wet Leg play a festival in 2022 and they killed that poo poo.

Big City Drinkin
Oct 9, 2007

A very good

Fallen Rib
The Isle of Wight is a geography plant

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
Waxahatchee tickets are 60 bucks-which is a bit crazy to me. I mean it’s not prohibitively expensive, but if it was like 30 or 40 I might have splurged for both nights instead of one.

spanky the dolphin
Sep 3, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHQrIMo0xak

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Ambitious Spider posted:

Waxahatchee tickets are 60 bucks-which is a bit crazy to me. I mean it’s not prohibitively expensive, but if it was like 30 or 40 I might have splurged for both nights instead of one.

I think I've seen her more live than any other artist. Been following since American Weekend and she pretty reliably released and toured almost every year in the 2010s so it was easy to rack em up. I have measured out my life in Waxahatchee shows. I even proposed to my wife while wearing a Waxahatchee shirt lol.



2021: $37
2020*: $30. This was cancelled due to the pestilence. The 2021 show was at the same venue and I don't think this was a credit, so they raised the price there too.
2019: $30
2017: $23.
2014: $15

T Bowl
Feb 6, 2006

Shut up DUMMY
Ticket fees in general have went up more than average inflation. Venues, artists, staffing, etc.. all tried to make up for lost time while dealing with their own inflation woes from COVID and then the prices stayed high like virtually everything else.

Unless you are a diehard and MUST go to a show, wait until the week before it and start checking the aftermarket sites. You can usually pay less, sometimes half as much.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Talking of aftermarket I've had good success with https://www.twickets.live/en/uk except for the fact search is bad.

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

Another new mgmt song,

https://youtu.be/CHQrIMo0xak?si=g2vSCf4rJ-3T3PvY

RedneckwithGuns
Mar 28, 2007

Up Next:
Fifteen Inches of
SHEER DYNAMITE

I don't know why but apparently Geese covered Justin Bieber and it slaps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIeb2sRbI8Y

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Frog are quite good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEt5ue4jSBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPW8TaZv-E

Costco Meatballs
Oct 21, 2022

by Pragmatica
Waxahatchee are playing Massey Hall (fancier venue, concert hall rather than club type venue) so I'm hoping maybe there's like an expanded string section or something for the extra money.

thehoodie
Feb 8, 2011

"Eat something made with love and joy - and be forgiven"

RedneckwithGuns posted:

I don't know why but apparently Geese covered Justin Bieber and it slaps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIeb2sRbI8Y

good opportunity to post my favourite "shouldn't be amazing but is amazing" cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8sh6MWssfI

RubberLuffy
Mar 31, 2011
new Good Kid

https://youtu.be/iLW92Xl68qA

new Aaron West & The Roaring Twenties

https://youtu.be/a3MBW4UQKXM

both are great

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist
Well, Spotify just played me Last Dinner Party into Lemon Twigs into the new Liam Gallagher/John Squire track.

I've officially been tagged as a middle-aged indie rock mark.

EDIT: Also (while only reinforcing the above), "Untidy Creature" is a loving beast.

The Modern Leper fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jan 14, 2024

resident
Dec 22, 2005

WE WERE ALL UP IN THAT SHIT LIKE A MUTHAFUCKA. IT'S CLEANER THAN A BROKE DICK DOG.

Bright Bart posted:

My favourite EP from an unsigned artist that rocked but never amounted to anything more has to be DOM's S.B.G.G.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Phey_w41Q

It even had a single of sorts with Living in America, in that there was a version with Gucci Mane (who has had a soft spot for awkward white boys with stupid hair for decades now).

But I don't think dude was interested in promoting it or doing interviews. Then I understand he got side tracked with his work as a session musician/producer or whatever. And the music he did put out as DOM wasn't anything special.

If anyone else is a fan and can recommend something based on this style that'd be cool.

One of my favourite EP/LPs from an artist who isn't a professional musician has to be Ryan Gosling's Dead Man's Bones.

I follow DOM on IG and keep hoping he’ll announce some nostalgia reunion shows. I think this CMJ 2010 lineup is when my music listening peaked

Gone Fashing
Aug 4, 2004

KEEP POSTIN
I'M STILL LAFFIN
never really listened to songs:Ohia until the last couple months and was very sad to find out what happened to Jason Molina

Nightmare Cinema
Apr 4, 2020

no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw3oXRQ698k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHQHYuiRPcQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o436vBCD9WA

Ay this is now my most anticipated LP of 2024

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012





King of the Slugs is a banger.

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Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC3UcCkNjA4

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