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mystes posted:I think the idea is just that to be convicted in a court they first have to be impeached and convicted by congress. Yeah, but this isn't anything that can actually happen. A President could have half of congress be removed, assassinated, or otherwise and that's perfectly fine until said congress impeaches and convicts him first? I mean, I guess they CAN rule that, but RIP congress members if Trump gets re-elected again, they'll all be murdered day one.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:07
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jokes posted:it's actually that boomers as a generation are a death cult that believe and hope that the world ends with them It's loving this^ American Boomers and a good number of Xers were told they are the last generation before Jesus comes back constantly during the Cold War, now oh wow they believe it and want the world to end before they die, so they can see the not themselves suffer from their gated community in the sky. Death Cult
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Jan 9, 2024 21:07
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Dapper_Swindler posted:to be fair. I think most people will and will many will vote against trump. its just most people dont follow politics that much and its not real until it is. much like with roe. yeah, i'm holding out hope for that
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Jan 9, 2024 21:07
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Bottom Liner posted:He's currently facing 91 felony charges, so convicting him for some of those is probably step two. He’s facing those charges for you! If he wasn’t standing between the Biden Crime DOJ and you, everyone in America would be facing those 91 charges! He’s so brave!
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Jan 9, 2024 21:09
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Trump losing in 2024 doesn’t mean its over. The veil has been pulled back and the GOP knows how to energize and sync with a base to get them into office and power. Trump will try again until his dying days, and once he’s gone, there will be another ghoul in his place. The MAGA crowd demands a leader - they’ve seen how far they can really get with their riots and intimidations in other parts of the country. Someone will lead that crowd, they will be here forever because it took one giant idiot to push “stolen election” and “fake news” forward as excuses for loses rather than actual demographics defeating them and verifiable truths. The U.S. government is like living in a house where there are no locks on the doors or windows - it’s easy for someone to get in and stay there and make a mess. It’s going to be a constant vigil to keep them out. Or maybe it goes the other way once Trump is convicted and sent to prison and cries like a dog, or when he passes away, everyone just moves on and the whole MAGA movement passes like a fart in the wind. Who knows! Just go out and loving vote like it’ll be the last time, because it just might.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:09
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Jan 9, 2024 21:15
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AI is getting pretty passable.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:16
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Ringo Star Get posted:Trump losing in 2024 doesn’t mean its over. The veil has been pulled back and the GOP knows how to energize and sync with a base to get them into office and power. Trump will try again until his dying days, and once he’s gone, there will be another ghoul in his place. There will always be another ghoul but I believe the MAGA movement will end with Trump. In exactly the same way as Lyndon LaRouche, Trump’s followers will not swap over to a new messiah, and will keep supporting their dead hero even after death. They will winnow down over the years and quietly move away from the cult, until they get taken in by a new grifter rear end in a top hat. Assuming, of course, Trump loses in 2024 and dies from a heart attack.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:17
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Ringo Star Get posted:Trump losing in 2024 doesn’t mean its over. The veil has been pulled back and the GOP knows how to energize and sync with a base to get them into office and power. Trump will try again until his dying days, and once he’s gone, there will be another ghoul in his place.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:17
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Good news/bad news: This year will be the year. Either we rise up and reject Trump, or we don't. Him dying before the election or going to jail would simply things, but if not, 11/2024 will be our inflection point. For now.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:17
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I’m still thinking that Trump was basically a once-in-a-lifetime event that the GOP will (hopefully) have a motherfucker of a time trying to ever replicate. The old guard’s been blowing their wad for nearly a decade now trying to get someone, anyone else set up as The Next Big Thing After Trump, and so far they just keep shooting blanks no matter what they try.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:22
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rotinaj posted:There will always be another ghoul but I believe the MAGA movement will end with Trump. In exactly the same way as Lyndon LaRouche, Trump’s followers will not swap over to a new messiah, and will keep supporting their dead hero even after death. They will winnow down over the years and quietly move away from the cult, until they get taken in by a new grifter rear end in a top hat. If anything I think the biggest threat to emerge from the Trump era is the GOP, having demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that they will throw the country into dictatorship the very second they have the leverage to do it, and there are essentially zero elements of the GOP that would put up any resistance. At least for myself, the "it won't happen here" mentality was based on a belief that the two parties are uninterested in rocking the boat enough to upset the power dynamic they already benefit from. It's clear to me now that the GOP is looking to flip this bitch over and tip us all into the water. Not a lot we can do about it, other than to acknowledge it. Which US society still completely sucks at.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:22
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Now, I thought we had achieved a huge victory electing Bill Clinton, but then W. Then I thought we had achieved a huge victory electing Obama, but then Trump. But, if Trump loses in 2024, I do think he's done, as his movement. He's unique, as is MAGA. It ends with him. And while if he's still alive in 2025, no doubt he'll still be ranting and raving. But can he realistically pose a threat in 2028? Seems highly unlikely, but I've been wrong before!
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Jan 9, 2024 21:26
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I hope we don't have 7 days of waiting for the results of the election either. I just want it all do e in one night.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:27
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As lovely as everything is now and as much as it hosed me up mentally I still pause and think that maybe it's best that we tested these boundaries with a dumbass ringleader like Trump, rather than a cult leader with the actual prowess and intelligence to get the job done. Assuming he doesn't ultimately succeed. Maybe it will give us the introspection as a country to establish more boundaries beyond an honor system. lol jk
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Jan 9, 2024 21:27
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Jelly posted:As lovely as everything is now and as much as it hosed me up mentally I still pause and think that maybe it's best that we tested these boundaries with a dumbass ringleader like Trump, rather than a cult leader with the actual prowess and intelligence to get the job done. Assuming he doesn't ultimately succeed. I feel like you have a definite point here The us succeeded at a stress test when Barry Goldwater lost the election, and succeeded at a stress test when Trump did not do a coup on Jan 6 There have been many failed stress tests but it is nice to see some had failed
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Jan 9, 2024 21:31
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Regalingualius posted:I’m still thinking that Trump was basically a once-in-a-lifetime event that the GOP will (hopefully) have a motherfucker of a time trying to ever replicate. 
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Jan 9, 2024 21:34
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Grey Cat posted:Thank god AI isn't there yet, no way Trump could pull this claim off currently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM This is 3 years old now
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Jan 9, 2024 21:36
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kazil posted:Nah, it's specifically about Mark Ruffalo posting obvious AI pictures of Trump with underage girls, and then publicly apologizing for posting it. The right are using it as a gotcha. Oh ok, I tend not to read the actual Trump posts because they're all the same and make my head hurt. dervival posted:I swear that almost this exact statement was said right after the Reagan administration We just got into watching Fargo and Bruce Campbell as a pre-Presedential Reagan already showing signs of dementia made me lol. Also lol that Nick Offerman is literally the same character from Parks and Rec only he's a lawyer and doesn't have a mustache. Frank Frank fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Jan 9, 2024 21:36
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Ringo Star Get posted:Trump losing in 2024 doesn’t mean its over. The veil has been pulled back and the GOP knows how to energize and sync with a base to get them into office and power. Trump will try again until his dying days, and once he’s gone, there will be another ghoul in his place. yeah but they've tried very hard to install their own ghouls and they can't get anyone who lights fires in hearts like trump we're very lucky in that he's a Special Ghoul, the kind they can only find once every 40 years or so; their last one was Reagan.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:37
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if this was Fallout game, Trump would be a named ghoul in the Overseer's Office of a vault who has a special drop, and all the other dudes would just be ghouls
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Jan 9, 2024 21:38
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The Republican party seems to respond to celebrity status more than anything else.so I won't be surprised with President Dwayne Johnson.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:38
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rotinaj posted:Assuming, of course, Trump loses in 2024 and dies from
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Jan 9, 2024 21:39
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Barcley posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM lol Lemme know when a deepfake doesn't get debunked and sends someone to jail. To my knowledge this has not happened. Grey Cat fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Jan 9, 2024 21:40
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I feel like when trump dies all the centrists who like him will lose their spirit and go back to not caring about politics anymore. It’ll take a while before they can get someone who will rile up the normies like he can again.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:41
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Frank Frank posted:Oh ok, I tend not to read the actual Trump posts because they're all the same and make my head hurt. Out of my way, tool of the state!
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Jan 9, 2024 21:41
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rotinaj posted:I feel like you have a definite point here In my genuin heart of hearts, I think trumps big shot was january 6th and when he lost that and the other poo poo. he was done. the chuds will bend the knee to him until the end but he has lost alot of folks who would have grudginly voted for him had he not been a moron and a gently caress up. StrangersInTheNight posted:yeah but they've tried very hard to install their own ghouls and they can't get anyone who lights fires in hearts like trump yeah. i think the next republican who wins is gonna be a boring vaguely socialialy liberalish moderate type if the GOP manages to unfuck itself.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:41
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StrangersInTheNight posted:yeah but they've tried very hard to install their own ghouls and they can't get anyone who lights fires in hearts like trump Trump is rather different in that he muscled his way into the GOP. I don't think it's going to take nearly as long once he's gone before some other ghoul pulls that off again. edit: basically this: Hollismason posted:The Republican party seems to respond to celebrity status more than anything else.so I won't be surprised with President Dwayne Johnson.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:43
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Apollodorus posted:Out of my way, tool of the state! That line got a genuine laugh out of me. He had a couple other one-liners while he was drunk-lawyering that were p good too.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:44
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redshirt posted:Now, I thought we had achieved a huge victory electing Bill Clinton, but then W. The teaparty crazies rolled right into the maga crazies and while the cult won't have a figurehead for a bit it's still going to truck on and be crazy and get elected in places where there are only crazy candidates. More traditional republicans will quietly retire, attempt to change party affiliations, or join the crazies. They won't go away, because despite everything they still fill a third to a half of the house of representatives every election, and every small victory they claim emboldens them to continue. This will never be over in america. They view it as a literal holy war, one they have to win no matter the cost. You can't beat that at the voting booth, but you can lessen its impact. The important thing is to always stay vigilant no matter who is in the white house.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:45
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There will never be an end to this bullshit unless there is judicial reform. Even if they lose the house and senate the GOP will try to erode democracy every chance they get in places like the 5th circuit in Texas and as long as it gets appealed to the supreme court there are no guard rails on the country even after trump. If anything this has just exposed how little political will there is to hold people accountable for breaking our country if the person has sufficient power / popularity. We have red states even openly defying the supreme court on the voting rights act. Who is going to enforce this poo poo its just a gentleman's handshake. I don't see that changing regardless of what happens to Trump the norms are broken. They are showing they want the government to fail right now with the house refusing to govern and wanting to shut down the government. This isn't a Trump issue 2 of the 3 branches of our country is broken and the 3rd the executive branch only works depending on who is in office that year going forward.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:47
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Jelly posted:As lovely as everything is now and as much as it hosed me up mentally I still pause and think that maybe it's best that we tested these boundaries with a dumbass ringleader like Trump, rather than a cult leader with the actual prowess and intelligence to get the job done. Assuming he doesn't ultimately succeed. I remember watching V For Vendetta and feeling vaguely insulted, talked-down-to, by the unsubtlety of the metaphor. I mean hell the guy's loving name was Adam Sutler lmao. And all I could think at the time was okay, W is a dumbass and these wars are doing more harm than good, but this is not an incipient Nazi Germany we're in, just look around us. The pop culture conversation is lively and two-sided, and nobody would dream of actually setting fire to our institutions over ideology. An on-the-nose allegory like this only serves to cry wolf. Couldn't happen here. Fast forward a few years and welp.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:47
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Data Graham posted:I remember watching V For Vendetta and feeling vaguely insulted, talked-down-to, by the unsubtlety of the metaphor. I mean hell the guy's loving name was Adam Sutler lmao. And all I could think at the time was okay, W is a dumbass and these wars are doing more harm than good, but this is not an incipient Nazi Germany we're in, just look around us. The pop culture conversation is lively and two-sided, and nobody would dream of actually setting fire to our institutions over ideology. An on-the-nose allegory like this only serves to cry wolf. Couldn't happen here. loving same. alot of weird W era stuff aged way way better with trump then W(gently caress W too though obviously)
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Jan 9, 2024 21:49
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Barcley posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM Oh my god what did they do to TV's Frank!
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Jan 9, 2024 21:52
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Data Graham posted:I remember watching V For Vendetta and feeling vaguely insulted, talked-down-to, by the unsubtlety of the metaphor. I mean hell the guy's loving name was Adam Sutler lmao. And all I could think at the time was okay, W is a dumbass and these wars are doing more harm than good, but this is not an incipient Nazi Germany we're in, just look around us. The pop culture conversation is lively and two-sided, and nobody would dream of actually setting fire to our institutions over ideology. An on-the-nose allegory like this only serves to cry wolf. Couldn't happen here. if it helps V for Vendetta's story was more of a reaction to late 70s/early 80s British politics, and while the movie tried to update the tone and the themes it was still largely about that.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:52
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Data Graham posted:I remember watching V For Vendetta and feeling vaguely insulted, talked-down-to, by the unsubtlety of the metaphor. I mean hell the guy's loving name was Adam Sutler lmao. And all I could think at the time was okay, W is a dumbass and these wars are doing more harm than good, but this is not an incipient Nazi Germany we're in, just look around us. The pop culture conversation is lively and two-sided, and nobody would dream of actually setting fire to our institutions over ideology. An on-the-nose allegory like this only serves to cry wolf. Couldn't happen here. and not only that, but all the people who turned out to be Nazis, are the ones who like to wear the Guy Fawkes masks
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Jan 9, 2024 21:52
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Also, disregarding that America was sliding into fascism was the theme of the day in the mid-00s, I remember trying to tell people that 4chan bothered me and everyone being like lol well a bunch of eternally online weebs are never going to have any real power in anyone's lives and welp The 00s are full of media trying to warn us, and people reacting to that media by disregarding it, saying it's over-reacting and we're 'beyond those times'. The only good thing about all this is it's firmly shut the mouths of everyone who claimed people raising the alarm were just overly anxious SJWs, but I'd honestly have rather been wrong. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Jan 9, 2024 21:54
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Dapper_Swindler posted:loving same. alot of weird W era stuff aged way way better with trump then W(gently caress W too though obviously) It's interesting how, comparatively, leftist commentary making light of what we now see as budding evidence of impending disaster has aged tremendously poorly. If you told me in 2007 that we'd both be looking wistfully at W. and remembering the Daily Show as milquetoast to a damaging fault, I'd have laughed in your face.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:54
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I for one think that presidents should just not do crimes if they don't want to be prosecuted for them at a later time
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Jan 9, 2024 21:56
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Toxic Mental posted:I for one think that presidents should just not do crimes if they don't want to be prosecuted for them at a later time I don't think this is the place for unpopular takes.
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Jan 9, 2024 21:57
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