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SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk
Speaking of going back.
Guess who is going back in February.
Yes his wife and kids will also be going.
No I don't know how they are handling the paperwork this time.

At least this time he'll actually know where the gently caress he is.

Plus they do seem genuinely happy again these days.

SerthVarnee fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jan 4, 2024

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bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
mainland, not singapore?

lol

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

i was in china last year and it was good

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



SerthVarnee posted:

Speaking of going back.
Guess who is going back in February.
Yes his wife and kids will also be going.
No I don't know how they are handling the paperwork this time.

At least this time he'll actually know where the gently caress he is.

Plus they do seem genuinely happy again these days.

The power of love

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


MarcusSA posted:

Where are you flying from??? I just checked LAX to Beijing and it was $1000-1200

From a place where it was $1000 last time. And still is to go to Tokyo, sooo.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Just heard China is wimping out on their antilootbox stuff, booooooooooooooo

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Tunicate posted:

Just heard China is wimping out on their antilootbox stuff, booooooooooooooo

It affected tencent’s bottom line so they folded like bad seaweed lmao

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Why visit China when Vietnam is, like, right there? Vietnam rules, and its an actual socialist country

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Yeah I've heard lots of good stuff about Vietnam.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

ElGroucho posted:

Why visit China when Vietnam is, like, right there? Vietnam rules, and its an actual socialist country

Yeah I’ve heard nothing but really good tings about Vietnam.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

ElGroucho posted:

Why visit China when Vietnam is, like, right there? Vietnam rules, and its an actual socialist country

have you been? i heard mostly ok stuff, any sights?

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

SerthVarnee posted:

Speaking of going back.
Guess who is going back in February.
Yes his wife and kids will also be going.
No I don't know how they are handling the paperwork this time.

At least this time he'll actually know where the gently caress he is.

Plus they do seem genuinely happy again these days.

I can’t believe they worked it out

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
so far

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

MarcusSA posted:

Yeah I’ve heard nothing but really good tings about Vietnam.

Just gonna quote the wiki but "Vietnam has high levels of corruption, censorship, environmental issues and a poor human rights record; the country ranks among the lowest in international measurements of civil liberties, freedom of the press, and freedom of religion and ethnic minorities."

All of which the people I met from Vietnam who moved abroad were more than happy to corroborate. One party states suck mega rear end universally.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
theyre basically in the happy fun stage of the soviet-japanese-chinese investment-fuelled-high-growth-without-handing-out-too-much-power-to-plebians cycle, like early 2000s prc or 1980s japan or 1960s ussr

Big Ass On Fire
Jun 16, 2023

It's a good place to visit , or was a couple decades ago. Living there would be a different story.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Lol actual socialist country. Yep, definitely not ""socialist"" with Vietnamese characteristics. E: Excuse me the Vietnamese term is apparently "socialist-oriented market economy".

I'd like to go some day, I don't have any friends there I haven't seen for years though.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Socialish

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
vietnam is going to turn out no better than china did, don't kid yourself. that said, there is probably still a good 10-ish years of Happy Times before things start getting truly dark, so if you want to go make some friends, get some work, and have some fun then now's a fine time for it.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Vietnam rules but yeah there's no pretending that it's anything other than an SEA autocracy that rolled the same dice as all the others (1-3 for eagle on cap; 4-6 for star on cap)

Tunicate posted:

Socialish

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
they are way more jazzed about americans cuz they had one war w america which they won and 20 wars with china with a more mixed record, and the 21st is coming along one of these days

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Lots of scams on the Cambo Viet border Involving cops soldiers and forced locals, apart from that a cool and good place

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

Grand Fromage posted:

Lol actual socialist country. Yep, definitely not ""socialist"" with Vietnamese characteristics. E: Excuse me the Vietnamese term is apparently "socialist-oriented market economy".

I'd like to go some day, I don't have any friends there I haven't seen for years though.

"If every family has a small business or shop then the workers own the means of production, right? :hmmyes:

Renreeja
Oct 11, 2007

Just looked up the MMA Xu guy cause of this thread, lol what a legend, zero fucks

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Shadow bank Zhongzhi has gone bankrupt welp welp

Big Ass On Fire
Jun 16, 2023

Top tier article on Taiwan's political history and upcoming election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67920287

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

I saw some KMT lad was handing out tide pods and a bunch of people got sick thinking they were candy lol.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Gaius Marius posted:

I saw some KMT lad was handing out tide pods and a bunch of people got sick thinking they were candy lol.

God that’s so 2018

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

Big rear end On Fire posted:

Top tier article on Taiwan's political history and upcoming election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67920287

Almost as if Taiwan is historically and geographically it's own country and should be recognized as such, considering it's completely separate politics, language, food, art, culture, and even genetically etc. and the "Republic of China" concept should just be ditched as an outdated and unneeded idea

Stop the hoopla already

Toxic Mental fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jan 10, 2024

Big Ass On Fire
Jun 16, 2023

CCP is in a tough spot. As attitudes shift away from we are part of China to we are Taiwan they increasingly only have a violence option. Their best possible bet today is to woo the people and the government to somehow want to become China. Maybe that's laughable today. Any violent outcomes are pretty grim to imagine.

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
CCP is in a tough spot. They could either relinquish their claim on a sovereign nation or they could start World War III

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Seriously. The CCP holds the cards here and has the agency. People would be pissed if they stopped claiming Taiwan, but I don't think that would endanger the government.

There was a time where a one country two systems deal might have been possible. Then the CCP stomped Hong Kong into the dirt and eliminated any chance of that. They could have chosen to honor their treaties, stop menacing Taiwan all the time, and have the potential for a peaceful integration in the future. They weren't interested.

Big Ass On Fire
Jun 16, 2023

Not sure if I'm interpreting snark correctly or what but just so it's clear, I am not suggesting China has a legitimate claim. I'm saying they do not appear to be backing down from this claim and in fact recently said it was off the table to Biden, and recent events in Ukraine have shown us what can happen in an invasion today between 2 forces with vaguely similar doctrines/hardware/backing. They're in a tough spot because they desperately want to fold Taiwan into China, are not backing down from this goal, and without the people of Taiwan wanting that to happen it's going to be ugly.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Not even sure why China would want a country that doesn't want anything to do with you. Seems a bit dumb

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
Imperialism, mainly

free hubcaps
Oct 12, 2009

Tai posted:

Not even sure why China would want a country that doesn't want anything to do with you. Seems a bit dumb

A mountainous, heavily forested country that has spent decades preparing for the eventuality of a Chinese invasion, no less.

ili
Jul 26, 2003


What's a better way to show the rest of the world that China is back, baby, and led by the biggest baddest swinging dick motherfucker around?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


It's mostly just revanchism, can't have the shame of losing territory to rebels, but there is a bit of a practical strategic thing since China's coast is completely surrounded by hostile countries that could theoretically cut off sea access. Conquering Taiwan would eliminate that. Of course, you could also just build up peaceful relations with your neighbors and not go to war with them, in which case you don't have to worry about it. That's silly though.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Tai posted:

Not even sure why China would want a country that doesn't want anything to do with you. Seems a bit dumb

everything within the first island chain is pretty shallow so chinese nuclear subs can be tracked viably by the americans. if you launch off the east coast of taiwan, you can launch without being tracked, so their submarines can do submarine things much more effectively

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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Big rear end On Fire posted:

Top tier article on Taiwan's political history and upcoming election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67920287



Hmm, a Taiwan and a 1

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