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solarjetman posted:Not actually arguing against Belichick here - 3 of his 6 rings were with a young game-manager Brady, he did a zillion amazing things during his Brady stretch, and in his post-Brady years he is much older than Shanahan was in his post-Elway years - but there are parallels, so:
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gvibes posted:Two years. drat yeah, two years. He was so iconic (derogatory) I just assumed it was a bit longer
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CharlestheHammer posted:At the very least they won’t have the same offensive staff that ruined the old QB Bears are the Jets are the Bears. They both do the same stupid poo poo year after year.
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the bears are functionally a dead team and should just be contracted. same poo poo every year.
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I like to imagine the bears owner as Mr. House from Fallout.
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he looks like he's been named the Ceremonial Mayor of a parade! He looks like he's a train conductor on a children's TV show!
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Woozie66 posted:https://twitter.com/BradBiggs/status/1745109201821528520?t=G6UvQH8L-bEIgyZa2A7gIg&s=19 holy poo poo haha hahahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I posted about it to the Eagles doomers in the NFC East thread but got drowned out by Cowboys fans who posted crying Sirianni.jpg because they don't understand their own meme, but... I don't see what firing Sirianni accomplishes if you think he's just a random yes man. Assuming that's the case, he's just going to get replaced by another puppet and then you're back to square one. This isn't a defense of him or a suggestion to keep him, just that if you're really of that mindset and not just screaming into the void, what are you, as a fan, even hoping for at this point? I'm not too bothered by the thought of him hanging on one more year with a different staff given that the defense was the much bigger problem this year. For all of the offenses issues, Philly was still 7th in ppg. The defense was 30th. Hiring Patricia was lovely enough but even with Desai struggling, replacing him with Patricia was just baffling and reeks of desperation. Eagles opponents scored something like 21.5 ppg with Desai at the helm, for a schedule that included a bunch of playoff teams. Patricia's D gave up almost 27 per game against much worse competition. And why on earth would you promote to DC a guy who your team scored 41 points against in the Super Bowl with a backup QB? You already know he's trash. If the decision was with Sirianni then... yeah, that's not a bad reason to heat his seat up. If he's just some puppet then it doesn't really matter and you just have to hope the next guy.
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I think it is silly to consider Sirianni a puppet. The guys face is incredibly punchable, he willingly hired a rapist, and his offenses have been absolute trash without Steichen calling plays. Sirianni had never called plays before but insisted on calling them when he became the Eagles HC; the offense stunk. He handed playcalling over to Steichen and the offense went to the moon. This year the offense has coasted on talent: good QB, top 3 OL, top 3 WR duo, great TE, talented RBs, great gimmick for short yardage situations. You can put up a lot of PPG when you out-talent everyone. tl;dr Sirianni was propped up by his coordinators last year and now the team stinks with them and like... CJGJ being the main FA that left the team.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:What is it about the Bears' DNA that prevents them from having a good offense? Saw a take posted in this subforum that the organization hangs their entire identity on the 85 Bears, who were notable for their defensive play. Gonna be really funny when the Bears finally figure out how to run a modern offense, only for the pendulum across the league to swing back to defensive play.
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Quiet Feet posted:I don't see what firing Sirianni accomplishes if you think he's just a random yes man. getting a yes man with connections to build a better staff. Howie and Lurie can't assemble an entire coaching staff on their own, and Sirianni is obviously tapped out after his first raft of coordinators and position coaches also the team doesn't trust him. you'd like a yes man that doesn't lead to his QB and top WR giving cryptic comments every single press conference and doesn't have veteran defensive leaders going on the radio to say you're panicking and making a rash coordinator switch
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indigi posted:getting a yes man with connections to build a better staff. Howie and Lurie can't assemble an entire coaching staff on their own, and Sirianni is obviously tapped out after his first raft of coordinators and position coaches So you’re saying they need an older CEO type coach with connections who’s open to giving up personnel duties? Hmm. HMMM
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indigi posted:getting a yes man with connections to build a better staff. Howie and Lurie can't assemble an entire coaching staff on their own, and Sirianni is obviously tapped out after his first raft of coordinators and position coaches Sirianni had to hire both new coordinators after Steichen and Gannon got poached late, Gannon after the Cardinals tampered and hosed the Eagles out of their original choice. You give him an offseason to right the ship because Sean Desai in particular was nobody's first choice - by the time they were even able to hire him, it was a matter of picking through the scrap pile.
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C-Euro posted:Saw a take posted in this subforum that the organization hangs their entire identity on the 85 Bears, who were notable for their defensive play. The Bears were “play defense and run the ball with a conservative offense and lovely QB play” long before 1985.
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fartknocker posted:The Bears were “play defense and run the ball with a conservative offense and lovely QB play” long before 1985. I mean, that was like 95% of the league back then, tho.
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One of the merits of hiring a head coach who's the playcaller (especially offensive) is that you don't have to worry about staff turnover as much. If you're CEO head coach of a successful team your coordinators and assistants are going to keep leaving and you'll have to keep replacing them. That kind of steady turnover can take a toll.
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Black Lighter posted:Sirianni had to hire both new coordinators after Steichen and Gannon got poached late, Gannon after the Cardinals tampered and hosed the Eagles out of their original choice. You give him an offseason to right the ship because Sean Desai in particular was nobody's first choice - by the time they were even able to hire him, it was a matter of picking through the scrap pile. There's a lot of stuff up in the air, the internal battle seemed to be Denard Wilson (now with Baltimore) vs Sean Desai. It's unclear if it was Nick or Howie who ultimately made the decision, but Denard was angered enough to leave. Apparently Wilson was also the desire of the players as well. Then there's the decision to bump Desai for Patricia. Also again unclear if that was FO mandated or coming from Nick organically.
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Quiet Feet posted:I don't see what firing Sirianni accomplishes...
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He wears fun t-shirts sometimes
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Black Lighter posted:Sirianni had to hire both new coordinators after Steichen and Gannon got poached late, Gannon after the Cardinals tampered and hosed the Eagles out of their original choice. You give him an offseason to right the ship because Sean Desai in particular was nobody's first choice - by the time they were even able to hire him, it was a matter of picking through the scrap pile. he picked desai and patricia, that's two chances already. both sucked poo poo Cash Monet posted:If you're CEO head coach of a successful team your coordinators and assistants are going to keep leaving and you'll have to keep replacing them. That kind of steady turnover can take a toll. sure but it wasn't steady turnover. it was literally one offseason, and he hadn't developed anybody in the building into a worthwhile promotion choice. complete failure so if he doesn't have the players' trust, doesn't have the skills to develop internal candidates, doesn't come up with schemes or gameplans, doesn't call plays, can't stop a historic collapse, can't get the players to buy in, and is sub 500 at choosing coordinators,
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Harlock posted:There's a lot of stuff up in the air, the internal battle seemed to be Denard Wilson (now with Baltimore) vs Sean Desai. It's unclear if it was Nick or Howie who ultimately made the decision, but Denard was angered enough to leave. Apparently Wilson was also the desire of the players as well. My guess - based on nothing but vibes and the fact that Pedersen got fired over wanting to choose his coordinators - is that Howie had more say in all of this than Sirianni. Everything with Patricia especially feels like a front office getting enamored with a big name and bringing him on no matter how transparently bad an idea it was.
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I don't think Sirianni has as much pull with hiring staff as perhaps other NFL coaches do. Doug was fired in part due to a conflicting vision of how he wanted to staff the team compared to the front office. I don't know what this means for his future, or anything really. But I'm going to guess Sirianni was brought in with certain expectations, and this might actually help him survive if he tows the line. I will say that when he did call plays in the start of his first season, he was godawful at it. edit: beaten kinda shyduck fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 10, 2024 |
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This is who the Panthers need to hire.quote:
Let him fill out his staff and front office, let him play defensive football for the next few seasons and just try to get the team stable.
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FizFashizzle posted:This is who the Panthers need to hire. Came here to post this. He did a great job this year and seemed to get every ounce of talent out of the defense. That's the kind of guy you want coaching your team. I doubt he's flashy enough for Tepper though.
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FizFashizzle posted:So you’re saying they need an older CEO type coach with connections who’s open to giving up personnel duties? I don't know if this is what you're specifically referencing (you have a few of these down the line) but Rivera to Philly would be hilarious. And only more funny if it actually worked...which...I don't know, that might work to some extent.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Unless they give Eberflus a contract extension no way they're going to be able to recruit a decent offensive staff for a lame duck year. Maybe you will get an up and comer who also thinks coups are cool
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FizFashizzle posted:This is who the Panthers need to hire. He consistently has managed to get defenses to outplay their talent level on truly horrible teams. Give him a shot and just let them stabilize things.
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https://x.com/tompelissero/status/1745162266746499483?s=46&t=OK6AvWM-NBtlIQDYnQH66w Holy poo poo
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Holy poo poo. That one is a shocker.
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What the gently caress. I mean I kind of get it, but what the gently caress.
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Uhh, holy poo poo.
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I kinda get it but also wow
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Way better coaches than Saleh getting fired every day now lol
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Flexing over my repeated comments about how no coach ever has started a season at age 73.
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Oh he's staying in the org. This just seems like he wants to take a step back from coaching.
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Dexo posted:Oh he's staying in the org. Was about to post this, he might be doing the Parcells thing
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