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repiv posted:capcom appears to be going through their back catalogue and patching in a new anti-tamper system designed to prevent modding (obviously not piracy because most of those games are already cracked) This is all that FGC announcer with the nude Chun Li mod's fault. Idiot revealed his porn mod in an official big tournament stream by accident and likely made all the Capcom suits freak out.
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Infinity Gaia posted:This is all that FGC announcer with the nude Chun Li mod's fault. Idiot revealed his porn mod in an official big tournament stream by accident and likely made all the Capcom suits freak out.
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Looked it up and they actually are making Dragon's Dogma 2 lol. Well, I rarely use content mods anyway
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Infinity Gaia posted:This is all that FGC announcer with the nude Chun Li mod's fault. Idiot revealed his porn mod in an official big tournament stream by accident and likely made all the Capcom suits freak out. lol i missed that this presentation was a couple of months after that incident so it probably is a direct response https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT5bwwvDv00&t=823s
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I'm going to mod Fly Into Free (Like A Dangan) into Dragon's Dogma 2 and if Capcom raises a finger to stop me they will have to step over their own graves to do so.
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Phlegmish posted:Looked it up and they actually are making Dragon's Dogma 2 lol. Well, I rarely use content mods anyway
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repiv posted:capcom appears to be going through their back catalogue and patching in a new anti-tamper system designed to prevent modding (obviously not piracy because most of those games are already cracked) It's extremely annoying, because many of these games are single player only, so it makes no sense. Its easy enough to circumvent, but it shouldn't even need to be done in the first place.
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SkeletonHero posted:I'm going to mod Fly Into Free (Like A Dangan) into Dragon's Dogma 2 and if Capcom raises a finger to stop me they will have to step over their own graves to do so. What if DD2 has a NEW weirdly unfitting j-rock opening theme?
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Infinity Gaia posted:What if DD2 has a NEW weirdly unfitting j-rock opening theme? I would be disappointed if it didn't.
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mods are a brand risk, especially now that playing video games has become a staple of broadcast entertainment the open source community has wrestled with this for decades, there aren’t technical solutions to be found that are worth their cost (if you care about user experience), afaik making people broadcasting modded things call out that they are playing a modded game might help, but ultimately someone’s going to (probably rightly) see it as a trademark issue and feel like they are bound to enforce I’m not even sure what the commercial performance right for video games is in the first place, to be honest
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Infinity Gaia posted:What if DD2 has a NEW weirdly unfitting j-rock opening theme? I will mod it into Dragon's Dogma 1, or maybe Resident Evil 7.
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Volte posted:They aren't just making it, it's coming out in about two months Now, that - I knew. My body is ready. With most games when they release I wait months or years before buying them, but not DD2. It's going to be absolute mayhem and I will be there for it; unoptimized monster climbing strats, pawns wearing the dumbest outfits you can possibly imagine, unintentionally romancing the pudgy blacksmith, etc. Ground floor.
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Subjunctive posted:I’m not even sure what the commercial performance right for video games is in the first place, to be honest i don't think it's ever really been tested in court and everyone is terrified of setting a precedent more restrictive than the current free-for-all so they avoid taking it to court e.g. when nintendo says that someone isn't allowed to run a smash tournament it might not be legally binding but they comply anyway because it's not a battle worth fighting
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I can see why companies are cracking down on pregnant sonic. pregnant sonic is a brand risk in the age of streaming. maybe forcing streamers to announce that sonic isn't really pregnant while depicting unlicensed images, but the open source community is still wrestling with the issue
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It's absolutely vital to crush any possibility of mods being a thing lest they... *checks notes*  "violate public order and morals"
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Jack Trades posted:"violate public order and morals"
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Sickening to think that some people have so little respect for brand integrity that they would mod a video game.
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Bring back secret codes, you cowards.You must allow Big Head mode.
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didnt society already go through this discussion with Hot Coffee? sure, the files were technically on the disc, but i thought you had to mod the game to even have access to them in the first place. In-game, i mean
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repiv posted:i don't think it's ever really been tested in court and everyone is terrified of setting a precedent more restrictive than the current free-for-all so they avoid taking it to court yeah, I secretly thought that the Stadia moron who told streamers they were all sharecropper parasites had a decent underlying point, even though him making it in public given his position was utterly dumb Nefarious 2.0 posted:I can see why companies are cracking down on pregnant sonic. pregnant sonic is a brand risk in the age of streaming. maybe forcing streamers to announce that sonic isn't really pregnant while depicting unlicensed images, but the open source community is still wrestling with the issue I served in the Iceweasel wars
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I imagine the single player games are running into issues because people are modding them and then uploading playthroughs using the modded versions. Most of which are basically useless but I've certainly seen enough streams pop up of like "Popular Youtube no-hit run RE3" and they modded Jill to having boobs that are twice the size as normal and to be wearing string floss and the argument of "Well, it's not actually nudity" probably isn't going to fly with worried execs thinking people are making their games into porn games and it being mistaken for something official.
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Jack Trades posted:It's absolutely vital to crush any possibility of mods being a thing lest they... Cheating in single player offline games is cool and good. Making cheat engine trainers and learning how to do that, has helped me so much with getting through tedious parts of games that I didn't want to deal with. And even for multiplayer, there are games that make it a central point of their experiences, although not many do this nowadays. But like, Lethal Company is super awesome about mods and you dont even need any installed yourself when joining a game where the host is using them.
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I said come in! posted:Cheating in single player offline games is cool and good. Making cheat engine trainers and learning how to do that, has helped me so much with getting through tedious parts of games that I didn't want to deal with. I assume that Lethal Company, like most officially supported modded games, probably has an official repository and anything that is an issue will get pulled down.
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Subjunctive posted:yeah, I secretly thought that the Stadia moron who told streamers they were all sharecropper parasites had a decent underlying point, even though him making it in public given his position was utterly dumb it really depends on the game, letsplaying can be transformative or complementary to playing the actual game but if it actually went to court i think it would be very difficult to argue that streaming or LPing a linear narrative game like a visual novel isn't straight up copyright infringement i think some guy actually got jail time for uploading VNs to youtube in japan, they've already established stricter legal standards there
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ImpAtom posted:I assume that Lethal Company, like most officially supported modded games, probably has an official repository and anything that is an issue will get pulled down. Good question, I should look into that, I didn't think it does? There's no Steam Workshop for it (yet). I play Lethal Company, but am still very new to it. The game is really loving difficult, and there are mods that make it a bit more friendly to players who want a casual experience that I really appreciate.
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the mod which makes the hoarding bugs go YIPPEE ^_^ is essential https://twitter.com/JosephF62710202/status/1743842296355823853
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repiv posted:it really depends on the game, letsplaying can be transformative or complementary to playing the actual game I think that is true to the extent that player choice is meaningfully reflected in the game, or that the streamer provides “value add” that’s material when compared to the entertainment provided by observing the game as shipped but also, transforming a copyrighted work doesn’t necessarily make it fair game, especially in a commercial context. looking forward to Twitch’s TOS elaborating on the four factor test!
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ImpAtom posted:I imagine the single player games are running into issues because people are modding them and then uploading playthroughs using the modded versions. Most of which are basically useless but I've certainly seen enough streams pop up of like "Popular Youtube no-hit run RE3" and they modded Jill to having boobs that are twice the size as normal and to be wearing string floss and the argument of "Well, it's not actually nudity" probably isn't going to fly with worried execs thinking people are making their games into porn games and it being mistaken for something official. 
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Jack Trades posted:It's absolutely vital to crush any possibility of mods being a thing lest they... I know it's like a legal term, but I don't think the people making nude mods for SF6 or the RE4 remake have "malicious" intent.
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The internet has shown me that there are many people, probably millions of people, who are just cum cum gently caress yankin' it all the time, and everything in their lives also has to be cumming and yankin' it, and will act in total disbelief that anyone else could not want to be constantly cumming and yanking.
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I also condemn these people, in the third person
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Begemot posted:I know it's like a legal term, but I don't think the people making nude mods for SF6 or the RE4 remake have "malicious" intent. They're clearly out to purposefully hurt Capcom's feelings and corrupt public order with their targeted indecency.
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Subjunctive posted:I think that is true to the extent that player choice is meaningfully reflected in the game, or that the streamer provides “value add” that’s material when compared to the entertainment provided by observing the game as shipped I can’t see a single argument for ever policing people uploading or streaming video game content on the internet that isn’t desperately corporate brain poisoned and completely lacking in understanding of what that action actually provides. Yes technically it’s probably illegal on some front under the way laws are currently worded but who remotely cares beyond suits who think they’re somehow losing millions on people doing free press for them.
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exquisite tea posted:The internet has shown me that there are many people, probably millions of people, who are just cum cum gently caress yankin' it all the time, and everything in their lives also has to be cumming and yankin' it, and will act in total disbelief that anyone else could not want to be constantly cumming and yanking. If you're yankin' it instead of using Auto-Blow 5000 then you're just a beginner scrub.
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Subjunctive posted:I think that is true to the extent that player choice is meaningfully reflected in the game, or that the streamer provides “value add” that’s material when compared to the entertainment provided by observing the game as shipped Twitch and youtube have been operating w/r/t video games on a legal basis of "ehhh it's fine, don't worry about it". Like there's really no legal justification for just uploading raw gameplay footage, but people do it all the time anyway, and they just make deals with the bigger publishers to allow on the basis of it being good advertising. Which leads us to this scenario where they're trying to crack down on what people do with single-player games on their own computers. They can't tell twitch to not allow modded games, that's completely impossible to regulate, so they have to go after it on the other end.
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the time has come to ban video games
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Begemot posted:They can't tell twitch to not allow modded games, that's completely impossible to regulate, so they have to go after it on the other end. twitch already bans people for cheating in multiplayer games so it's not much of a stretch to extend that to modding in singleplayer games if the publisher demands it
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:the time has come to ban video games
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exquisite tea posted:The internet has shown me that there are many people, probably millions of people, who are just cum cum gently caress yankin' it all the time, and everything in their lives also has to be cumming and yankin' it, and will act in total disbelief that anyone else could not want to be constantly cumming and yanking. yeah man yeah, that's exquisite, exquisite tea tell me please tell me how many millions are cummin and yankin please tell me
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The one-two punch of the rise against modding games was the SF6 nude mod broadcast followed by them releasing costumes for characters that cost $15 apiece which everyone promptly responded to with " what the gently caress capcom are you high I'll just get a costume mod instead".
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