p-lang thread: (now (have you (problems two)))

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leper khan: Dec 28, 2010; Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

Soricidus posted:

lol if you regularly create binaries smaller than 1gb, what’s it like in the 1980s grandpa

A lot better tbh

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FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

leper khan posted:

A lot better tbh

# ? Nov 6, 2023 16:58

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

The last time I dealt with user input that was customer facing was 6 years ago. Now I don�t even deal with strings other than to display static messages. :smug:

# ? Nov 6, 2023 16:59

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

leper khan posted:

A lot better tbh

# ? Nov 6, 2023 17:46

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

our distributable is not even half a gigabyte. we are lean and svelte

# ? Nov 7, 2023 06:40

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

Over the past year, I got us from 1.5GB to 50MB for the installed deb pkg.

# ? Nov 7, 2023 08:44

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Xarn posted:

Over the past year, I got us from 1.5GB to 50MB for the installed deb pkg.

how many people said thank you

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Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

lol, lmao

# ? Nov 7, 2023 09:49

my homie dhall: Dec 9, 2010; honey, oh please, it's just a machine

Xarn posted:

Over the past year, I got us from 1.5GB to 50MB for the installed deb pkg.

hope you're bringing up the fact you saved your company tens of dollars in your year end

# ? Nov 7, 2023 11:19

Athas: Aug 6, 2007; fuck that joker

The problem with the world is that people are insufficiently focused on the bottom line of their employer. Never make anything better unless a wealthy man profits from it within the current fiscal year.

# ? Nov 7, 2023 12:43

Plank Walker: Aug 11, 2005

any time i make a change that saves disk space, i pocket a few mb for myself, no one is gonna notice them missing :ssh:

# ? Nov 7, 2023 15:55

Athas: Aug 6, 2007; fuck that joker

Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime; that's why I save on the company drive.

# ? Nov 7, 2023 16:56

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Xarn posted:

lol, lmao

well let me be the first

thank you

# ? Nov 7, 2023 17:22

Sagacity: May 2, 2003; Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

pokeyman posted:

well let me be the first

thank you

is this the forums equivalent of a slow clap

# ? Nov 7, 2023 17:39

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

my homie dhall posted:

hope you're bringing up the fact you saved your company tens of dollars in your year end

I am pretty sure that shaving off about an hour for anyone/everyone trying to get the pkg (or docker image with the pkg) through VPN has paid for itself in many times over. Artifactory limited at ~250KB/s is hell.

(and obviously this was a tiny fraction of what I did during the last year :v:

)

# ? Nov 8, 2023 08:44

prisoner of waffles: May 8, 2007; Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.

Athas posted:

I�m just scraping by but the C-suite seems to thrive; I might as well save on the company drive.

# ? Nov 8, 2023 14:44

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Athas posted:

Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime; that's why I save on the company drive.

"Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime"

But that's an adage from a simpler time

Now the board makes a grand, and I make a buck

So I steal the new tires from the company truck

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Achmed Jones: Oct 16, 2004

C suite cashes checks
i make gently caress all
so i rip the copper
outta company walls

# ? Nov 9, 2023 04:00

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

NihilCredo posted:

"Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime"

But that's an adage from a simpler time

Now the board makes a grand, and I make a buck

So I steal the new tires from the company truck

# ? Nov 9, 2023 04:17

zokie: Feb 13, 2006; Out of many, Sweden

I think shrinking a binary by that much must have saved your colleagues a lot of annoying time
waiting for an installer. This year I spent a few weeks getting something that used to take 10-15 minutes down to 3-5 seconds. Then I spent a few days getting it down to less than 2. I�m more proud of shaving those last seconds, it made the whole
experience silky smooth.

# ? Nov 9, 2023 07:27

Sagacity: May 2, 2003; Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

zokie posted:

This year I spent a few weeks getting something that used to take 10-15 minutes down to 3-5 seconds. Then I spent a few days getting it down to less than 2. I�m more proud of shaving those last seconds, it made the whole
experience silky smooth.

it's amazing what an improved diet can do for your bowel movements

# ? Nov 9, 2023 10:54

my homie dhall: Dec 9, 2010; honey, oh please, it's just a machine

Xarn posted:

I am pretty sure that shaving off about an hour for anyone/everyone trying to get the pkg (or docker image with the pkg) through VPN has paid for itself in many times over. Artifactory limited at ~250KB/s is hell.

(and obviously this was a tiny fraction of what I did during the last year )

yeah, 1.5gb to 50mb is p dank, i�m just taking the piss, especially if you�re no longer doing something like shipping clang to production

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Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

�oooooohhhhh, compress and then encrypt. got it�

# ? Nov 9, 2023 12:43

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

literally just had a conversation about how increased bandwidth usage was an expected result of field-level e2e encryption because it makes transport-level compression ineffective

# ? Nov 9, 2023 18:08

Achmed Jones: Oct 16, 2004

Subjunctive posted:

�oooooohhhhh, compress and then encrypt. got it�

lol

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akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

Subjunctive posted:

�oooooohhhhh, compress and then encrypt. got it�

I never thought about this but lol

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akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

entropy is a bitch

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Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

Xarn posted:

I am pretty sure that shaving off about an hour for anyone/everyone trying to get the pkg (or docker image with the pkg) through VPN has paid for itself in many times over. Artifactory limited at ~250KB/s is hell.

(and obviously this was a tiny fraction of what I did during the last year )

all those hours of loving off lost forever smh. your coworkers are making an honest effort to quiet quit and here you go messing it all up. thanks a lot jack

# ? Nov 30, 2023 17:12

redleader: Aug 18, 2005; Engage according to operational parameters

everybody's favourite plang is getting a jit. i'm kind of surprised by how basic it is, but i guess you gotta start somewhere and start simple

the way it's been implemented (with the build time c functions getting compiled into "templates") seems like a huge hack, but then i have literally no idea about how jits are normally implemented

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rjmccall: Sep 7, 2007; no worries friend; Fun Shoe

that is definitely one of the standard ways to implement a lovely jit. or, if you�re visual basic, a static compiler

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akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

python I've never had to touch. looks nice tho.

# ? Jan 11, 2024 00:25

rjmccall: Sep 7, 2007; no worries friend; Fun Shoe

okay, i skimmed the post, and it is describing this byte to template expansion as if it�s way more novel and interesting than it really is. pretty sure there were jits doing that in the 90�s

# ? Jan 11, 2024 00:35

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

yeah I was reading papers about that in the early 2000s, and they weren�t new papers IIRC

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tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

rjmccall posted:

okay, i skimmed the post, and it is describing this byte to template expansion as if it�s way more novel and interesting than it really is. pretty sure there were jits doing that in the 90�s

yep

thing is it probably had some name like "direct threading interpreter"

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Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

you are awakening brain cells that I was sure were dead from alcohol or COVID or mental illness

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Dijkstracula: Mar 18, 2003; You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

yeah, pretty astonishing that they claim that template-based compilation is somehow new, but I haven't read that 2021 OOPSLA paper. This is also how the Hotspot Java interpreter works - for each instruction set there's a template table for each bytecode instruction, so something simple like pushing a constant would look like

C code:

void TemplateTable::iconst(int value) {
  transition(vtos, itos);
  if (value == 0) {
    __ xorl(rax, rax);
  } else {
    __ movl(rax, value);
  }
}

which gets splatted into a table with an xmacro, as god intended. Oh hey, speaking of macros, what's that "__" identifier in the iconst() implementation? Why it's one of my favourite preprocessor hacks:

C code:

#define __ Disassembler::hook<InterpreterMacroAssembler>(__FILE__, __LINE__, _masm)->

anyway, funny that the cool new python thing is literally the least-optimized java thing, wrap it up plangers

# ? Jan 11, 2024 01:52

Dijkstracula: Mar 18, 2003; You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

also the notion of "copy-and-patch JIT"s sound a heck of a lot like the so-called copy-and-annotate binary translation techniques that were popular back in the day, perhaps you would like to learn more starting at about the 15 minute mark of https://www.infoq.com/presentations/dynamic-analysis-tools/

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pseudorandom name: May 6, 2007

itt we rediscover that hackernews posts are made by idiots

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tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

i mean, it's pretty common for folk techniques to be republished in academia every five to seven years so

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CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

What we really need is just-in-time code deletion that deletes your code right before you try to run it so we can all finally be free from touching computer

# ? Jan 11, 2024 02:32

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