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flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
i mean, you run war machine *in* your lockdown deck and care less about establishing the board early

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

flatluigi posted:

i mean, you run war machine *in* your lockdown deck and care less about establishing the board early

War Machine the Baby Land Shark's Stepdad.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

I dunno, at 4/6 he's really, really slow. Jeff works so well because 2-drops are easy to fit into your curve on multiple turns.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

time to hoard keys thats so many fun cards and variants god

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

i kept only getting HE mirror matches playing my HE deck, so I switched to my wong deck for a bit.

every match up has a cosmo.

switch back to my HE deck, 5 matches in a row have been against HE decks. the gently caress is this poo poo.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


It's just confirmation bias and coincidences.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

Skippy McPants posted:

I dunno, at 4/6 he's really, really slow. Jeff works so well because 2-drops are easy to fit into your curve on multiple turns.

At 4/6, when do you drop him? T5 is for X, and T6 he won’t have an impact. So you’d have to cheat him out early, but then nothing is locked. I don’t think he fits well into lockdown decks.

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo

Bad Video Games posted:

It's just confirmation bias and coincidences.

Of course, obviously. But also maybe not? But honestly it's really unlikely to be rigged like that. But then again...

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Pixie seems kind of insane. Thanos is definitely a good callout for her.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Kalman posted:

At 4/6, when do you drop him? T5 is for X, and T6 he won’t have an impact. So you’d have to cheat him out early, but then nothing is locked. I don’t think he fits well into lockdown decks.

He isn't meant to. He's a counter to lockdown decks.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


Snazzy Frocks posted:

Of course, obviously. But also maybe not? But honestly it's really unlikely to be rigged like that. But then again...

Second Dinner can't release a new card without breaking their game. I doubt they could code any kind of deck matching algorithm with any competence.

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




Did some trendy YouTuber put out some new Cerebro-3 deck? I just got to the 90s and I've seen it like 5 times in a row

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.
My Kingpin still has the T6 destroy thing going on, didn't that change?

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013

Snazzy Frocks posted:

Of course, obviously. But also maybe not? But honestly it's really unlikely to be rigged like that. But then again...

If it was like that, who are the players with Cosmo getting queued into the Wong game and so on?

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:

Red posted:

My Kingpin still has the T6 destroy thing going on, didn't that change?

Did you update?

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

Jedit posted:

He isn't meant to. He's a counter to lockdown decks.

Play Electro on 3, Sandman on 4, War Machine on 5. Your opponent can only play 1 card and you can dump your hand. Including normally unplayable poo poo like Ebony Maw and the Infinaut.

edit: Sentry, Giganto, Crossbones. Anything else?

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Devo posted:

Did you update?

Yes, but I often have to reinstall the app to force some updates. I have no real incentive at the moment to do so.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


uXs posted:

Play Electro on 3, Sandman on 4, War Machine on 5. Your opponent can only play 1 card and you can dump your hand. Including normally unplayable poo poo like Ebony Maw and the Infinaut.

You're still going to be restrained by your energy.

(I once asked the devs why you couldn't still play Jeff while out of energy and got a cheeky reply, pointing out that nothing could very definitely stop Jeff.)

dipple
Oct 22, 2008

No Wave posted:

Pixie seems kind of insane. Thanos is definitely a good callout for her.

Making your stones all cost 5/6 is probably not great.

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib

Quackles posted:

(I once asked the devs why you couldn't still play Jeff while out of energy and got a cheeky reply, pointing out that nothing could very definitely stop Jeff.)

lol. Alright SD, you're not all bad

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


dipple posted:

Making your stones all cost 5/6 is probably not great.

It is if all the 5- and 6-drop cards the 1-drops support become 1 cost.

Nikumatic
Feb 13, 2012

a fantastic machine made of meat
We'll find out for sure once they say what "shuffle" means, but I imagine it's going to assign a random cost to every card rather than swapping all your 6s for 1s and vice versa.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Nikumatic posted:

We'll find out for sure once they say what "shuffle" means, but I imagine it's going to assign a random cost to every card rather than swapping all your 6s for 1s and vice versa.

Absolutely, which is why you’d play it in Thanos, where you have 6 extra cards with a 1 cost.

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

Nikumatic posted:

We'll find out for sure once they say what "shuffle" means, but I imagine it's going to assign a random cost to every card rather than swapping all your 6s for 1s and vice versa.

If it was random costs, why wouldn't it just say 'random costs' instead of 'shuffle'.

So my guess is it will randomly shuffle the costs of your cards.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

dipple posted:

Making your stones all cost 5/6 is probably not great.
You get to play pixie whenever you want, ideally you'd play her alongside some stones because the whole trick of making pixie work is drawing enough cards after playing her.

She can also make for extremely zany jane fosters.

Nikumatic
Feb 13, 2012

a fantastic machine made of meat

uXs posted:

If it was random costs, why wouldn't it just say 'random costs' instead of 'shuffle'.

this is the company that defined professor x with "etc".

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

dipple posted:

Making your stones all cost 5/6 is probably not great.

What if you play Mobius first...

DeepDickPizza
Oct 11, 2012

THREE TIME! THREE TIME!
I’m sorry this has become a part of the game I’m fascinated by, but now I’m just getting flooded with album variants. Every card in my shop aside from one new Miles is an album variant.

In theoretically related news, that Odin/Doom bundle actually looks pretty sick. I’m not dropping 30 bucks, but it seems like decent value and the variants are cool as hell.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:

uXs posted:

What if you play Mobius first...

Now you’re cooking with straight gasoline

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Nikumatic posted:

this is the company that defined professor x with "etc".

Professor Etc.! I love it.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
Nothing more frustrating in this game than losing to a deck that no only makes zero sense, but played very few cards (to be fair, I ALSO played very few cards because I didn't draw a 1 or 2 cost card until T6.)

All they played was a Skaar T4 (Monster Island was out,) Legion T5 on Monster Island (I blasted one of his monsters with Shang,) then Niki for a +2 boost onto...Phoenix Force to bring back said Monster.

What loving deck were they playing with Niko, Legion, Skaar, and Phoenix force?

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib
I'll take that loss over Sunspot > Armor > Magik any day of the fuckin week mate

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib

DrBouvenstein posted:

Nothing more frustrating in this game than losing to a deck that no only makes zero sense, but played very few cards (to be fair, I ALSO played very few cards because I didn't draw a 1 or 2 cost card until T6.)

All they played was a Skaar T4 (Monster Island was out,) Legion T5 on Monster Island (I blasted one of his monsters with Shang,) then Niki for a +2 boost onto...Phoenix Force to bring back said Monster.

What loving deck were they playing with Niko, Legion, Skaar, and Phoenix force?
That's...interesting....
If you can Phoenix Force a Forged or Nico'd Multiple Man on t4, you'd have a 0 cost skaar on 6. The Human Torch + Taskmaster on 5 would be a smaller Taskmaster but you'd have a cheap Skaar so you could go wider

Legion's just a good card with all the Limbo around.

Might mess around with that

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
Great Portal is not a very good location. I already have stuff I want to do on Turn 6, SD, thank you.

victorious
Jul 2, 2007

As a youth I prayed, "Give me chastity and continence, but not yet."

Marx Headroom posted:

I'll take that loss over Sunspot > Armor > Magik any day of the fuckin week mate

My loss to Sunspot>nothing>nothing>nothing>nothing>Dr Doom is seared into my memory.

GarudaPrime
May 19, 2006

THE PANTS ARE FANCY!
I'm not sure Hela even qualifies as a casino deck anymore, it's become so consistent. Just the best it's ever been. Went to Infinite then farmed like 250 snap points with like a 58% win rate.

You can salt to taste for quite a bit of it, but the most important card in the Hela shell is Black knight.

BlackCat-
BlackKnight-
Blade-
Death-
Dracula-
Giganto-
Hela-
Infinaut-
Jubilee-
LadySif-
Lockjaw-
Magneto

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




CapnAndy posted:

Great Portal is not a very good location. I already have stuff I want to do on Turn 6, SD, thank you.

I had Mirror Dimension turn into a second Great Portal. Both gifts were Destroyers

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

CapnAndy posted:

Great Portal is not a very good location. I already have stuff I want to do on Turn 6, SD, thank you.

Gotta keep Hela decks good. They suffer so much! :qq:

I thought I had a good chance earlier today, they had IW out, and they played a Crystal for an extra card, and Magik to go seven turns.

I played Enchantress T6 on their IW (they didn't play anything on it T5) and as predicted, they had played MODOK there.

Discarded their whole hand...no Hela. T7 they draw Hela.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Bad Video Games posted:

It's just confirmation bias and coincidences.

I think a priori there’s no reason to think or expect matchmaking would be random/not based on what deck you’re playing. I don’t have an exact theory of how it works but it sure doesn’t seem random a lot of the time

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Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Only a few days into it, and I already hate this meta more than any since returning to the game. Stuff I enjoyed, like Loki or Sera Control, is ded and everything playable is some variation of Play Big Idiots On Curve. Oh, and I guess Destroy. Bleh.

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