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seattle's going to go handsome and hire Dave Canales imo (he's very handsome)
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One of my favorite things in sports is fandoms looking at a player or coach who was great but is in decline due to "time is undefeated" and rationalizing it away by saying they were always bad. Like just accept that nothing lasts forever why is this so hard
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Jan 11, 2024 04:12
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the coaches that were bad were actually good and the coaches who were good were actually bad and all the coaches did and did not deserved to be fired.
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Jan 11, 2024 04:21
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Belichick would have to agree to a trade and why would he want to cost his new team a pick? He can just refuse and make the Pats fire him.
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Phobeste posted:One of my favorite things in sports is fandoms looking at a player or coach who was great but is in decline due to "time is undefeated" and rationalizing it away by saying they were always bad. Like just accept that nothing lasts forever why is this so hard There's only two boxes, you either go in the good or bad one. No way there's such a thing as nuance.
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Jan 11, 2024 04:40
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biceps crimes posted:seattle's going to go handsome and hire Dave Canales imo (he's very handsome) If you could only use three words, wold they be handsome handsome handsome?
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Pete was also one of the best player development guys in the league, its absurd how well he coached dudes up Why do you say that? He has tons of drafts with terrible busts. That indicates to me he’s not good at developing and coaching up players. We’ve also had FAs that leave Seattle and become more productive players. I feel like that public perception of Pete being good at developing players comes from that strong first impression he made with LOB like Sherman and Kam from the late rounds. And then recency bias with Woolen in the late rounds.
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Jan 11, 2024 07:21
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Pete was a good coach. He had his flaws but he has plenty of legitimate strengths as a coach. He was a good motivator. His teams played hard. quote:His teams always had at least one WR that could make really improbable broken play catches. quote:He could always find DBs in the later rounds and coach them up. quote:He correctly saw that Russ couldn’t be trusted to cook. quote:Schneider also deserves plenty of blame for the contracts and drafts, he was right there with Pete in lockstep. He wasn’t just a money guy, he came up as a scout and through the personnel side. He ran the scouts and negotiated the contracts. He wasn’t just a pawn for the gum chewing mastermind behind the scenes.
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Jan 11, 2024 07:35
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I loving love Pete Carroll and it’s dumb that pointing out his obvious flaws is seen as hating for the sake of hating. I love the vibes he brought to the nfl almost as much as the Super Bowl he brought Seattle. Unironically. Back in the early 2010s you still had a bunch of coaches with bullshit dictator attitudes. You had poo poo like Schiano. Or Garrett demanding that players call him “Coach” instead of by his name. Pete stood in stark contrast because he treated his players like adult coworkers. Part of Pete’s philosophy is that he wants everyone in the building to be having fun. I think Pete’s early success helped reframe what a successful and healthy organization looks like. And I think that had a significant material impact to the quality of life for players.
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Jan 11, 2024 07:38
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I feel like that public perception of Pete being good at developing players comes from that strong first impression he made with LOB like Sherman and Kam from the late rounds. And then recency bias with Woolen in the late rounds. So the public perception of him is formed from *checks notes* success early in his time in Seattle and success late in his time in Seattle? Incitatus posted:the coaches that were bad were actually good and the coaches who were good were actually bad and all the coaches did and did not deserved to be fired. Schrödinger’s Coach
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Jan 11, 2024 07:51
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Idr where I saw on Twitter but the Seahawks had a 98 game stretch where they never were down by more than 7 in the 4th quarter. Like. Pete was a good coach. His defense fell dramatically the last 4 years mainly because they just never had good players. But the Geno Smith project was an unqualified success -- Geno finished top 10 this year in epa ! He's good! - and trading away Russel was also an unqualified success.
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adaz posted:Idr where I saw on Twitter but the Seahawks had a 98 game stretch where they never were down by more than 7 in the 4th quarter. That's not a bad point that everyone's glossing over tbh. He got rid of the washed team cancer and got maximum value and then threw a retread in who performed better than the guy he replaced. That alone is pretty impressive.
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Jan 11, 2024 08:09
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Goodbye Peter Goodbye Nicholas From Football
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I think Pete’s early success helped reframe what a successful and healthy organization looks like. Speaking as a Lions fan, I think this is a really underrated thing. There are some organisations that just carry an enviable level of competence, seemingly irrespective of what else is going on, and a lot of that comes from the HC. The Seahawks are one of them. There has to be some middle ground between "this is a really well coached and well run organisation" and "What?!? They didn't make the Championship game this year?!? Booooo!" I had the same thought when people were talking about Tomlin's job earlier in the year. The guy who (still) hasn't coached a losing season in 427 years is in trouble? What?
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Bumhead posted:Speaking as a Lions fan, I think this is a really underrated thing. There are some organisations that just carry an enviable level of competence, seemingly irrespective of what else is going on, and a lot of that comes from the HC. The Seahawks are one of them. There has to be some middle ground between "this is a really well coached and well run organisation" and "What?!? They didn't make the Championship game this year?!? Booooo!" That's what entitlement looks like.
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Jan 11, 2024 12:23
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Yeah, changing the organization character is a big point for Pete. The best description of the Seahawks before he came along was "anonymous". They were the team in South Alaska that nobody cared about. Pete gave them an identity and attitude. He changed public perception of the team forever. And it came from wading into a decaying team suffering from years of bad draft picks and taking an absolute chainsaw to the roster. He swapped so many players out those first two years. I think he was just never prepared to totally remake the team like that again. It's going to be really weird to see someone else standing on that sideline this fall.
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Jan 11, 2024 12:42
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I demand they chew gum.
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https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1745416354113507506?s=46&t=4v69OlVJpK1h7pgGOGqqoA Eat poo poo Bill
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Jan 11, 2024 13:08
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It's non-negotiable. Yes this required two posts. Edit 
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Jan 11, 2024 13:08
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There it is. They always come in threes.
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Hamhandler posted:https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1745416354113507506?s=46&t=4v69OlVJpK1h7pgGOGqqoA Two time loser to Eli manning in the Super Bowl wow
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Jan 11, 2024 13:17
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Good thing the Titans fired that guy the Pats wanted because figuring out a trade was too hard.
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Is he fired or stepping down or mutual parting or what? I mean I know it's actually the first one, just wondering what they're saying it is.
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Jan 11, 2024 13:20
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Might as well go ahead and add Belichick's name to that list of interviewees the Panthers have lined up
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Jan 11, 2024 13:31
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i resign as hc of nep
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Hamhandler posted:https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1745416354113507506?s=46&t=4v69OlVJpK1h7pgGOGqqoA
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Jan 11, 2024 13:34
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Gonna be incredible when they pass on Vrabes for Josh McDaniels. Oh it’s the usual cast of PatriotWay’ers. https://twitter.com/dangrazianoespn/status/1745421603192615335?s=46&t=DcBXErlGIUJUj8quAgYfkQ
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Patriots Dynasty officially dead.
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davecrazy posted:Patriots Dynasty officially dead. I’m glad of it.
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Mega64 posted:Is he fired or stepping down or mutual parting or what? Schefter’s tweet says “parting ways”, but however they want to phrase it, based on Bill’s press conference the other day, it was pretty clear he didn’t want to leave. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1745416259242434885
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Feel like the Falcons would be a beautiful disaster with Belichick, but maybe a better disaster than the Falcons typically are.
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Falcons fans thinking there getting the second most winningest coach in NFL history. Except the dude is sub .500 without Brady.
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fartknocker posted:Schefter’s tweet says “parting ways”, but however they want to phrase it, based on Bill’s press conference the other day, it was pretty clear he didn’t want to leave. I mean, if he's still gunning for the record, any team desperate enough to hire him probably isn't going to be winning many games, and he's not going to have his way like he did in NE. Plus, he's on a clock. If his next team doesn't get its poo poo together quick, that's probably the end of his career and he knows it. Leaving NE to deal with all of the hassle of starting anew is probably the last thing he wanted. Grittybeard posted:Feel like the Falcons would be a beautiful disaster with Belichick, but maybe a better disaster than the Falcons typically are. Tbh it wouldn't be a terrible landing spot for him
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Now New England gets to experience the hell world that most of us are usually stuck in, the coaching carousel of piss and poo poo, for the next few decades. Inshallah
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Black Sunshine posted:Now New England gets to experience the hell world that most of us are usually stuck in, the coaching carousel of piss and poo poo, for the next few decades. Or, the Bills blow out the Steelers, Tomlin moves on, and finds a comfy landing spot to the northeast...
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lol at the language. “Belichick’s string will be cut and he will float away up into balloon heaven”
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Black Sunshine posted:Now New England gets to experience the hell world that most of us are usually stuck in, the coaching carousel of piss and poo poo, for the next few decades. Make a deal with the Devil and he always comes to collect At least they'll have the memories
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Stopped paying attention to my phone yesterday evening. Woke up to learn Bill, Saban and Carroll are all out, with the latter 2 likely gone for good. One of the most significant weeks of Black Monday that I can recall. The Bears went from 3-14 to 7-10. If they had any resemblance of an oline they could’ve made the playoffs. What about that says “fire your entire offensive staff”? John Brown fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jan 11, 2024 |
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