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rkd_ posted:Table 4.3 of the National Center for Education Statistic you linked shows that income distribution has a significant effect on merit-based aid. In the 2015-2016 academic year, 11.3% of the lowest 25 percent with regard to income distribution of dependent students received financial aid of an average of $7,200, compared to 25% of the highest 25 percent who received an average of $10,100 in aid. Looking at race, 14.2% of white undergraduates received merit-based aid. The data doesn't explicitly look into the correlation, but I don't think it's arguable that the majority of undergraduates belonging to the highest 25 percent of dependent students income-wise will be white, and as such inflate the number of white graduates receiving merit-based aid. Considering poor whites have no identity-related scholarships to fall back on, I'd say they are uniquely disadvantaged. When you narrow it down to just merit-based aid, yes, rich people get more of that. But there's also need-based aid, which evens the odds quite a bit. And Table 4.2 shows that white students are more likely to receive need-based institutional aid than black or Hispanic students are, and that they receive comparable amounts. And higher-income students receive the least need-based aid. Though the income group that's most likely to get some is the second quartile (25-50%), not the first quartile (<25%)...which is exactly what I'd expect if aid was predominantly going to the poor members of a group whose overall wealth is well above that of other groups. Do you feel excluded by Hanukkah? Do you feel excluded by St Patrick's Day? You're basically arguing that minority cultures shouldn't have their own cultural expressions because it makes the majority cultures (who've set the entire nationwide holiday calendar based on their own cultural holidays) feel special anymore. Which, of course, is nonsense. As for your comment about "white, straight Americans", I kind of feel like maybe you misunderstood what I said? There is no such thing as "white culture", and never was - but that doesn't mean light-skinned people don't have cultures or cultural practices of their own! It kind of seems like you're missing something important: when a German person moves to America, they're not just "an American" or "a white person", they're a German-American. You look at people with light skin and see "white people", when you should be seeing Anglo-Americans and German-Americans and French-Americans and Italian-Americans and Irish-Americans and so many others. Even if they do choose to shed that identity and assimilate into general American culture, general American culture is still a full culture by itself. It just doesn't feel special and unique, because not only is it the overwhelming majority culture here in the US, but the US has such overwhelming cultural influence that we've exported our cultural practices all over the world. Those different cultures may not be quite as distinct from each other as African-American culture is, but the reason African-American culture has maintained such a distinctive identity is because they were intentionally excluded from the rest of American life. Up until the 1960s, African-Americans in much of the US weren't allowed to attend the same schools as kids of European descent, they weren't allowed to occupy the same spaces, they weren't allowed to sit next to each other on the bus, they weren't allowed to use the same public facilities and accommodations, and they often weren't even allowed to live in the same neighborhoods. That sort of separation significantly inhibits cultural crossover, and is a massive part of why African-Americans have been able to maintain such a distinct cultural identity. I'm saying that the "white, working-class man in 2023 who sees no future ahead of him for himself or his family, is economically disadvantaged, and receives no support from his environment or society as a whole" is largely a myth, one that's promoted by white supremacists in defense of institutional racism. Poor white people receive tons of support from their environment and society. They just don't realize it because it's so utterly natural for them to receive that support that they don't even realize that support isn't available to everyone. Institutional racism didn't exclusively benefit rich white people. After all, the entire point of white supremacy was that even the worst-off white people would still be better off than most black people, and even today there are still substantial differences between what it's like to be a poor white guy and what it's like to be a poor black guy. The racial wealth gap doesn't just mean "there's more poor black people than poor white people" or "on average, white people have more money than rich people" - the experience of being poor itself also changes by race, as poor white people still have access to many opportunities unavailable to poor black people, while poor black people face a number of obstacles that even the poorest white people will never face. Sir Lemming posted:Back to the question of why this seems more prominent among white men, I'm probably not really qualified to answer that, although I would just point out that the Black American Christian church seems overall a bit healthier, and for obvious reasons there's a stronger sense of community there. Could be related, could be a coincidence, not really sure. It seems more prominent among white men because people care more when it happens to white men, and even more importantly, because people care more about the white men it happens to. Non-white youths have had longstanding problems with idealization of hypermasculinity and a loss of their perceived place in the world. But when they act out based on those feelings, they tend to end up encountering angry cops instead of happy GOP recruiters. The massive racial biases in our criminal justice system, paired with felon disenfranchisement laws, tend to have prevented non-white groups from effectively channeling those feelings into political action. In particular, white society has been blaming black masculinity for various problems in the African-American community for at least half a century, if not longer. LBJ's Dept of Labor wrote an infamous report in 1965 claiming that African-American poverty was caused by the destruction of African-American masculinity at the hands of slavers and Jim Crow, and therefore it would be impossible to resolve racial inequalities without first teaching African-American males how to be men. As non-white drug use and gang violence became a rising problem in following decades, plenty of people were eager to blame those problems on non-white hyper-masculinity, lack of masculinity, toxic masculinity, or some other defect in their ability to understand their role as men. It's just that the problems among non-white men were never really treated with the same level of generosity or apologism that so often crops up in discussions of young white men, so it's easy to not even realize it's the same thing. Non-white masculinity issues were something to be solved forcibly by state interventions, often violently, not something to be agonized over like this.
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https://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1745599292486586692 Joe Biden is using the United States military to intervene on behalf of Israel, a nation actively comitting genocide. I do not see how he will possibly win reelection.
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1745599292486586692 It's intervention on behalf of everyone else whose shipping is getting disrupted.
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1745599292486586692 Look Joe forced the Russians out of Fallujah and I'm sure he can triumph here against the threat of the Ottoman Empire
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thank u @JarJarFan69 for bringing us this news update, and for your insightful commentary
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mobby_6kl posted:It's intervention on behalf of everyone else whose shipping is getting disrupted. It's intervention on behalf of everyone profiting off genocide, yes.
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mobby_6kl posted:It's intervention on behalf of everyone else whose shipping is getting disrupted. It is a disruption of a country putting the Responsibility to Protect in action.
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1745599292486586692 By running unopposed, because the GOP is falling apart
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Trazz posted:By running unopposed, because the GOP is falling apart I heard this last in 2016 and I don't see the chud supreme court allowing taking trump out of ballots. It's very dangerous to think bidden is running unopposed.
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Celexi posted:I heard this last in 2016 and I don't see the chud supreme court allowing taking trump out of ballots. It's very dangerous to think bidden is running unopposed. agreed, and while i think the I-P horror show may affect michigan, no one is gonna cry over the US/UK and alot of europe and other countries bombing pirates who are taking advantage of poo poo. the houthies arnt the rebel alliance here. they have literal slavery and are giant assholes that even AQ hate.
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Mischievous Mink posted:It's intervention on behalf of everyone profiting off genocide, yes. Literally 40% of all transatlantic shipping comes through there. It has nothing to do with Israel, you silly billy.
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Celexi posted:I heard this last in 2016 and I don't see the chud supreme court allowing taking trump out of ballots. It's very dangerous to think bidden is running unopposed. If Trump is the GOP nominee then they lose If Trump is not the GOP nominee then they lose even harder
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Trazz posted:If Trump is the GOP nominee then they lose I think haley has pretty good shot if the chuds backed her, but they wouldnt.
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1745599292486586692 I don't see how defending the shipping lanes (the primary responsibility of the US Navy) is going to result in Biden losing the election, unless you think it will make him seem weak on foreign issues which I don't think is your intended point here?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Literally 40% of all transatlantic shipping comes through there. It has nothing to do with Israel, you silly billy. It's a side effect, this wouldn't be happening if Israel wasn't bombing Gaza, which in turn *might not be happening if the US was not so staunchly supporting Israel. So no the US is not bombing Yemen on behalf of Israel, but the events are causally connected. Granted it's possible Israel would have bombed Gaza the same if US withdrew support on the first day of bombing, and the Houthis might still have taken to attacking shipping in response because it's the tool available to them. Either way this tire fire is getting worse.
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1745599292486586692 Literally no one outside of the terminally online left is going to interpret it this way. The strikes are to protect the shipping lanes and stop a potential vector for more inflation. If the Suez gets shut down that’s gonna be a real bad for the global economy.
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1745599292486586692 that is because you are apparently completely disconnected from the general American populace and how they view the Israeli invasion and the Yemeni blockade, if they're aware of the latter at all Biden was probably doomed to lose votes as of Oct 7, which is dangerous given our stupidly 50-50 elections... but so far all the polling I've seen suggests that if he wants to make decisions based solely on whether it will get him more votes, he absolutely should not oppose Israel. It would be nice if Americans at large had our political sensibilities. They do not.
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Orthanc6 posted:It's a side effect, this wouldn't be happening if Israel wasn't bombing Gaza, which in turn *might not be happening if the US was not so staunchly supporting Israel. No, they have done this many times before. They are just claiming that is the reason. Even the U.N. says it is just a fig leaf and they haven't actually hit a single Israeli ship. They have been primarily targeting ships from Switzerland, Norway, and China. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/11/un-security-council-demands-houthis-stop-red-sea-shipping-attacks quote:The attack by the Iranian-backed Houthis came despite a planned United Nations Security Council vote later Wednesday to potentially condemn and demand an immediate halt to the attacks by the rebels, who say their assaults are aimed at stopping Israel’s war on Hamas in the Gaza Strip. https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthi-rebels-red-sea-attacks-israel-f820b848eb76fa3ecc8056ca332cabae
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https://twitter.com/RepValHoyle/status/1745592968826757348?t=1L9REyAoFIgW61ZfpWrJ-g&s=19 https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1745590169493745693 https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1745602388524671351 https://twitter.com/RepRashida/status/1745616407880990784 A few Dems calling out Biden's strike, even saying that it violates the Constitution
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Raenir Salazar posted:I don't see how defending the shipping lanes (the primary responsibility of the US Navy) is going to result in Biden losing the election, unless you think it will make him seem weak on foreign issues which I don't think is your intended point here? The Houthis were throwing the concept of liberal humanitarian intervention back in the west's face, and these strikes show once again that we don't actually believe what we say we do. Seph posted:Literally no one outside of the terminally online left is going to interpret it this way. The strikes are to protect the shipping lanes and stop a potential vector for more inflation. If the Suez gets shut down that’s gonna be a real bad for the global economy. And despite the stated reason for them, the effect is coming down hard on the side of the Israeli genocide by attacking the only country using military force to attempt to protect a vulnerable population from genocide. Google Jeb Bush posted:that is because you are apparently completely disconnected from the general American populace and how they view the Israeli invasion and the Yemeni blockade, if they're aware of the latter at all Given how many Arab and Muslim voters in key states feel, I doubt this lovely gamble of his will work out. Nucleic Acids fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jan 12, 2024 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I think haley has pretty good shot if the chuds backed her, but they wouldnt. No she doesn't She keeps giving the wrong answers about the civil war and about abortion
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Dapper_Swindler posted:agreed, and while i think the I-P horror show may affect michigan, no one is gonna cry over the US/UK and alot of europe and other countries bombing pirates who are taking advantage of poo poo. the houthies arnt the rebel alliance here. they have literal slavery and are giant assholes that even AQ hate. Well if they don't have the support of Al Qaeda then I don't see how I could support them 
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Trazz posted:No she doesn't Oh i know. i also dont think she wins any primary outside NH.
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theCalamity posted:A few Dems calling out Biden's strike, even saying that it violates the Constitution It's not. Unless he keeps doing it for 60 days or more. The War Powers Act is pretty explicit that they just need to inform Congress within 48 hours unless the operation lasts more than 60 days. quote:The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.
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Nucleic Acids posted:The Houthis were throwing the concept of liberal humanitarian intervention back in the west's face, and these strikes show once again that we don't actually believe what we say we do. I have some bad news for you if you legitimately think that the houthi policy of murdering and robbing international cargo ships that started in 2014 is their legitimate attempt to help Gaza in response to the 2023 conflict somehow. It's just pretty wildly credulous. The Palestinian delegation at the U.N. doesn't even support them.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I have some bad news for you if you legitimately think that the houthi policy of murdering and robbing international cargo ships that started in 2014 is their legitimate attempt to help Gaza in response to the 2023 conflict somehow. It's just pretty wildly credulous. yeah, I am not sure why people are going "we gotta hand it to the houthies". like i can understand hamas even if i dont agree with it but with the houthies, its just them doing more pirate poo poo to take advantage of a situation.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I have some bad news for you if you legitimately think that the houthi policy of murdering and robbing international cargo ships that started in 2014 is their legitimate attempt to help Gaza in response to the 2023 conflict somehow. It's just pretty wildly credulous. I'm not exactly shocked that the Palestinian diplomatic team could not openly endorse their actions, which do seem bad when divorced of the context in which they have occurred since the start of the Israeli genocide of the Gazans.
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Nucleic Acids posted:The Houthis were throwing the concept of liberal humanitarian intervention back in the west's face, and these strikes show once again that we don't actually believe what we say we do. You know what voters don't like? Price hikes from supply chain disruptions. The Houthis hosed around and are finding out. If these operations kill civilians, then the US is going to have to answer for it but "keeping international commerce working by killing right wing militant assholes" is not something Americans are going to be angry with Joe Biden about.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It's not. Unless he keeps doing it for 60 days or more. The War Powers Act is pretty explicit that they just need to inform Congress within 48 hours unless the operation lasts more than 60 days. The president has to notify Congress within 48 hours regardless if he keeps doing it for 60 days or more.
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theCalamity posted:The president has to notify Congress within 48 hours regardless if he keeps doing it for 60 days or more. They already did 3 hours ago. https://twitter.com/AkbarSAhmed/status/1745581360562004269
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Misunderstood posted:What "gamble" are you talking about, exactly? The idea that he can piss off as many Arab and Muslim voters as possible in key states and that it still won't cost him enough votes to lose them. And once again, the actual effect of this is a military strike against people actually fighting to stop an ongoing genocide.
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Nucleic Acids posted:The idea that he can piss off as many Arab and Muslim voters as possible in key states and that it still won't cost him enough votes to lose them. Houthis are not oppressed people like the residents of Gaza. They are dicks. Nobody likes them. The Yemeni that they have embedded themselves amongst are suffering greatly, but hopefully the US will be able to keep their strikes to the militants. (We do seem to be pretty good at not killing civilians, under current policy, but even one is too many.) Nucleic Acids posted:And once again, the actual effect of this is a military strike against people actually fighting to stop an ongoing genocide. Misunderstood fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Jan 12, 2024 |
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Misunderstood posted:Okay, well, since most people are not going to buy this implausible framing of this as something Joe Biden is "doing for Israel" I don't think it's going to piss off many Arabs or Muslims. The reason Biden is doing it is obvious and extremely popular globally. I would say people of Gaza and the West Bank, as well as much of the Arab world support them. And many, many Arab and Muslim Americans have seen Israel blowing apart their family members and people for the past three months with Joe Biden's wholehearted support, so this at the very least well not help him. Misunderstood posted:
It is in fact quite practical, given the damage the blockade has done to the Israeli economy.
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It's done damage to everybody's economy. He's doing it because of potential damage to the US economy, not the Israeli economy. It's just not an action on behalf of Israel. It's being done against a force that is [/claims to be] reacting to Israel, but what their motivation is doesn't really have anything to do with how the US should or should not respond, and what the Houthis are doing is clearly not helping the people of Gaza in any imaginable way. Misunderstood fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Jan 12, 2024 |
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Nucleic Acids posted:The idea that he can piss off as many Arab and Muslim voters as possible in key states and that it still won't cost him enough votes to lose them. And once again, the actual effect of this is a military strike against people actually fighting to stop an ongoing genocide. They aren't. The houthies have existed and been doing this since 2014. Even if you we ignore the last 9 years of history that they have been doing this and, like a newborn babe, accept that to be 100% true and ignore history, then how is attacking and stealing a cargo ship full of shoes departing China for the U.S. doing that? The most recent set of attacks has hit ships from 20 countries and 0 of them are Israel. They have been hitting ships with valuable things on them for almost 10 years to help fund their insurgency in Yemen. It isn't a new thing or tactically impacting Israel at all. The most recent one was a Norwegian ship hauling oil leaving Norway for Canada.
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In what way are they fighting to stop an ongoing genocide, exactly? Because Im not seeing it.
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Misunderstood posted:It's done damage to everybody's economy. He's doing it because of potential damage to the US economy, not the Israeli economy. And that is meant to put pressure on the west to bring Israel to heel. Although I suppose it was naive to think any western nation, let alone the US, would do the right thing.
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I gotta be real I don’t think this stops the Houthis. You can’t bomb a group like this into submission. It’s gonna take boots on the ground. So how much footage of dead Yemeni kids is the White House willing to generate in an election year? It doesn’t seem like “US airstrike hits wedding party” stories are the kind of nostalgia voters crave. Feels like this only escalates and doesn’t have a meaningful path to actually stopping the conflict from any angle.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They aren't. The houthies have existed and been doing this since 2014. So far their actions have been far less damaging than those of Israel. And simply because they don't fly israeli flags does not mean there is no connection for any of those ships. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nucleic Acids posted:I would say people of Gaza and the West Bank, as well as much of the Arab world support them. And many, many Arab and Muslim Americans have seen Israel blowing apart their family members and people for the past three months with Joe Biden's wholehearted support, so this at the very least well not help him. I don't think you know anything about this. Literally none of the Arab world supports them. Several Arab countries were involved in the bombing tonight and multiple Arab countries have been actively fighting a literal ground war against them for the past decade. The only ones in the region who support them are Iran, who are not Arab.
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