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moot the hopple
Apr 26, 2008

dyslexic Bowie clone

Kanos posted:

This wraps around to "how are these raider dudes who are insanely hostile to everyone in the world getting detailed information about how nice the scrollwork is on the floor in my workshop in the back of the colony to determine how profitable the raid would be", though. :v:

Once they hear word of the legendary shelf you just crafted, raiders can't help throwing themselves at your walls to take such a tantalizing prize

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HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

kids don't learn opsec until they grow up, but by that time there's been too much radiotalking

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌
Tynan puts some questionable things into this game but um

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

The Velvet Witch posted:

yeah have the terrorists make demands so i can ignore them and feel even more satisfied wiping them floor with them when they invade

This but if they actually do get their demands they start to become neutral and then allied.

e: actually idk this may just be the crap version of the empire

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Kanos posted:

Even as someone who prefers higher difficulties, I do this too. "You loving idiot, you smoothed the floors/laid down a carpet? We're all dead, Lord Humungus is gonna send another 30 guys in the next wave" is one of my least favorite bits of wealth calculation in vanilla. I hate leaving dirt floors everywhere.

You gotta think goonier than that. "Hey guys those dipshits running the corn farm put in a bunch of fancy psychadelic carpets, want to go set it on fire and steal their stuff?" Of course that's going to get more interest at ye olde raider camp than the base with dirt floors

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

The Lone Badger posted:

I’m pretty sure there’s a mod that lets you pay mercenaries silver to drop-pod in and murder the raid.

VE Pirates has a mercenary feature and it's insanely broken

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Doltos posted:

Tynan puts some questionable things into this game but um



I'm just looking at those big contiguous biomes and feeling things

Razakai
Sep 15, 2007

People are afraid
To merge on the freeway
Disappear here

QuarkJets posted:

VE Pirates has a mercenary feature and it's insanely broken

Howso? I'm guessing the cost is totally off so it's like "spend 200 silver to get a dozen elite mercenary meatshields".

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Ms Adequate posted:

I'm just looking at those big contiguous biomes and feeling things

not everybody biosphere collapsed their planet

HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

I live close enough to a pirate base that they demand silver for being too close and raid me otherwise. I think that might be vanilla?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



A loving yak was inside the base and decided that it was hungry so it started mining out through my loving castle walls

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

Ms Adequate posted:

A loving yak was inside the base and decided that it was hungry so it started mining out through my loving castle walls

This is a sign that you must tame, armor, and cybernetically augment this yak until it can tear down the castle walls of the foeman. If it can mount a huge cannon, all the better.

Vanilla Yaks Expanded

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
VE adds a meme for health care which makes charity necessary and adds a bonus based on the size of your hospital, my hospital is always swanky since we're hotswapping bionics and organs pretty much constantly so now all my dudes have a permanent +10 mood boost for having a dope hospital :v: That worked out pretty well

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I believe there is a mod, possibly made by the same person behind hospitality, where you make a hospital and get paid to perform operations on guests.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!
Nightmare Hospital v1.25 New Mutilation Customizer

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Leal posted:

I believe there is a mod, possibly made by the same person behind hospitality, where you make a hospital and get paid to perform operations on guests.

Yep, it's simply called Hospital: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992224079

Works really well thematically with the healthcare meme and stuff. I guess to be REALLY charitable you wouldn't charge for care.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
Oh hey I remember that one, it's a neat idea but was a bit wonky at the time so I took it back out. Looks like they updated it a few times so I'll have to give it another go :toot:

Kris xK
Apr 23, 2010
Hospitality and Hospital both work with Spaceports too.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
having a good hospital really should be one of the single biggest recruiting draws in rimworld

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
I sorta wish I could rent out biosculptors too, I got over zealous and built like fourteen of them and I still only have like eight colonists :frog: And four of them have private biosculptor rooms/are a vampire who doesn't age

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4
I think there's some kind of mod order fuckery or something messing with Combat Extended and armor... why does prestige recon armor have something like ten times the defensive stats of regular recon armor? Why is normal recon armor about as protective as a t-shirt with a duster over it? It seems to have sharp armor rating of about 1mm RHA, while steel armor vests start at around 4mm RHA and are up to 8mm RHA in certain areas.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Danaru posted:

VE adds a meme for health care which makes charity necessary and adds a bonus based on the size of your hospital, my hospital is always swanky since we're hotswapping bionics and organs pretty much constantly so now all my dudes have a permanent +10 mood boost for having a dope hospital :v: That worked out pretty well

My last colony was using this meme(before it was destroyed by unrelated crippling TPS issues) and it's really, really easy to hit "huge hospital" and just have a permanent +10 mood on everyone, yeah. Basically the only "downside" to the meme is that it's effectively only +5 mood because it wants you to have someone in the Nurse role it adds, and the Nurse role is one of the worst roles possible because it disables literally every work type except doctoring/nursing/surgery, so I just eat the -5 mood from not having one.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Tried out the new Vanilla Expanded Tribal start where you are wild people who don't know how to do anything but make fireplaces and cook stuff. And boy oh boy are manhunter boomalopes fun when you have no ranged units and you have to rely on outdoor treatment with scavenged herbal medicine for wound treatment. Especially when you get a raid for advancing too fast while your best melee fighter is still recovering from the bites he got.

At least the manhunter went down instead of dying instantly because that would probably have been a guaranteed restart otherwise.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Razakai posted:

Howso? I'm guessing the cost is totally off so it's like "spend 200 silver to get a dozen elite mercenary meatshields".

The cost is totally off. You can fend off huge raids for trivial amounts of silver. You can even cheese it by calling down a bunch of mercenaries and harvesting their organs for a tidy profit, the pricing is real dumb.

The same mod adds warcaskets, and you can also hire warcaskets as mercenaries. Warcaskets are kind of cool but they're bullshit to fight, it sucks

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled
I would rather fight mechanoids forever than fight warcaskets because it turns out that power armor defensive values in Rimworld's combat engine are balanced around the wearer feeling pain.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

I don't like warcaskets because A) they feel tacked on to a pirate supplement (what sort of pirate wants to be a 40K Dreadnaught forever?) and B) the idea makes me sad.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??


HERE COMES THE SUN

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Hellioning posted:

I don't like warcaskets because A) they feel tacked on to a pirate supplement (what sort of pirate wants to be a 40K Dreadnaught forever?) and B) the idea makes me sad.

Duty and booty does not end with death, comrade

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

Kanos posted:

My last colony was using this meme(before it was destroyed by unrelated crippling TPS issues) and it's really, really easy to hit "huge hospital" and just have a permanent +10 mood on everyone, yeah. Basically the only "downside" to the meme is that it's effectively only +5 mood because it wants you to have someone in the Nurse role it adds, and the Nurse role is one of the worst roles possible because it disables literally every work type except doctoring/nursing/surgery, so I just eat the -5 mood from not having one.

There’s a mod that fixes that nurse role to be functional enough to actually use, it’s a must-have for that meme IMO.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Danaru posted:



HERE COMES THE SUN

Rimatomics letting you actually use your insane power generation by building Obelisks of Light and poo poo proves that Dubs truly gets it

Telsa Cola posted:

Duty and booty does not end with death, comrade

They should make it so a pirate is okay being in a warcasket as long as it's sufficiently blinged out, and maybe that requirement rises with time or kills or something. It gets increasingly gaudy until it starts suffering from it, even as the guy inside reaches Venerable Dreadnought levels of skill and experience.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Kanos posted:

My last colony was using this meme(before it was destroyed by unrelated crippling TPS issues) and it's really, really easy to hit "huge hospital" and just have a permanent +10 mood on everyone, yeah. Basically the only "downside" to the meme is that it's effectively only +5 mood because it wants you to have someone in the Nurse role it adds, and the Nurse role is one of the worst roles possible because it disables literally every work type except doctoring/nursing/surgery, so I just eat the -5 mood from not having one.

you don't need a hauler/cleaner in your colony? they can still do dumb labour

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled
Typically I don't like wasting colonist time doing jobs that can be handled by mechs/animals/kids/slaves(depending on the specific nature of the colony I'm playing).

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Nurses can only do Doctor and Dumb Labor? Why does Vanilla Expanded always have to make the dumbest possible choice

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
My dudes aren't bothered by the lack of a nurse, and thank gently caress because lmao you weren't kidding



Even modded jobs like fishing are disabled, nurses can't do poo poo and you don't even get any benefits like shooter roles

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
lmao. love that poo poo

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

If I was designing the role I'd probably at least let nurses do Cooking and Plant Cutting, things that nurses traditionally have done for thousands of years

Arguably Handle too

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
Here's a bonus, a medical specialist added by the same meme:



Like is the nurse supposed to be a leadership role? None of this is worth overspecializing one of your pawns to the point of near uselessness



E: okay I know I'm getting weird about this but I had to know:



That is such a comically terrible ability I cannot think of a single scenario I've been in where that would help what were they cooking

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Medical Specialist is part of basic Ideology, it seems like someone looked at that specialist job and said to themselves "what if I made a version of this that was as stupid as possible?" Classic VE choice

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

QuarkJets posted:

Medical Specialist is part of basic Ideology, it seems like someone looked at that specialist job and said to themselves "what if I made this as stupid as possible?" Classic VE choice

Oh whoops I saw "unlocked by healthcare" and assumed :frog: But still

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Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
it's kind of tynan's fault that shooting specialist and production specialist are SO INSANELY loving BUSTED that literally nothing can compare to them unless it is similarly beyond the pale in raw mechanical power

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