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Bad NBA shooters are probably nowhere near as bad at like the act of shooting as people think. But yeah It just becomes hard once you are in a game situation, have more mental load than just focusing on shooting. It's why like put a bad NBA shooter in a open run at a gym and that dude will move around and pull up like Jordan, just because they can create separation, and not have to worry about poo poo other than their shot, as Jamal from the call center can't do poo poo to affect them. Like here watch Andre Drummond shooting in a Gym casually draining 3's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B45gixnxnaU
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kingcobweb posted:John Wall talks about this in that long podcast interview that was big a while back Sounds interesting, do you have a link? Is it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMHTV1PpNWA
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Shooting in the NBA isn't just shooting. It's shooting in front of 10K+ plus fans with world class length, speed, and athleticism closing out on you while you're gassed from having to play more active defense than other leagues and probably also running mental math prior to that about what they need to be doing on offense The Bubble created a good once-in-a-lifetime (cross fingers) opportunity to look at the effect a packed, giant arena has on shooting quote:Several players commented that depth perception made a difference as well. Instead of playing in packed stadiums full of ecstatic fans, teams played in much smaller areas similar to where they held regular practices. Not having to consider depth perception allowed players to have an easier time making shots. Before March, NBA players who took shots from the corner were shooting 38.9 percent inside the bubble, that percentage increased to 42.8. quote:Similarly, a noticeable amount of players have seen an increase in free-throw percentages as well. Dwight Howard, who is notorious for his poor free-throw shooting, saw an increase from 49.4 percent to 61.8 percent, which is one of the notable increases this season. Without fans, the arena is much quieter and there are no visual distractions that could potentially overstimulate players. In the bubble, all players have “home court advantage” since they practice and play on the same courts, which means they are able to feel more comfortable with the baskets they are shooting on. Overall, free throw percentages rose from 77.1 to 80.6 percent. “I feel like it’s a hooper’s gym,” Devin Booker explains to The Ringer. “It’s easier to shoot in here with [better] depth perception. I love the setup that they have for us. There’s not much more that comes with it beyond the game of basketball.
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Zogo posted:
Lu Dort is the first player in NBA history to have a +/- of +40 in less than 20 minutes.
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Seams posted:Sounds interesting, do you have a link? Yeah that’s the one, pro listen
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Dexo posted:Bad NBA shooters are probably nowhere near as bad at like the act of shooting as people think. ive heard that a lot of nba guys that can shoot 40% from three might be hitting like 80% of their catch and shoot practice threes in the gym
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fart simpson posted:ive heard that a lot of nba guys that can shoot 40% from three might be hitting like 80% of their catch and shoot practice threes in the gym I've watched a Bulls warmup where Kyle Korver shot like 20 3's and missed one lol. NBA players are completely ridiculous.
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Sasha Vezenkov shot 3s without missing for 5 minutes in practice and can’t get off the bench
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I was thinking, if you had magic powers that made any shot you take go in (as long as it didn’t get blocked etc) how far do you think you could go? Would you make it to the NBA? Or would you just be happy hustling dudes at the local gym.
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You would defensively die probably in the nba
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Red Rox posted:I was thinking, if you had magic powers that made any shot you take go in (as long as it didn’t get blocked etc) how far do you think you could go? Would you make it to the NBA? Or would you just be happy hustling dudes at the local gym. You would 100% make it to the NBA, assuming you had even average human being athleticism. And the release wasn't comically slow. Like you'd be hunted on defense, but like Dame has historically been a traffic cone on defense, and he was maybe still is, a positive NBA player because his offense is so good. If you could make 100% of your shots guaranteed in an NBA game, and all it meant was you had to have an offense designed around getting you open behind the 3pt line. You would have like literal perfect offensive efficiency numbers. Every time down the court, just run screens to get you open somewhere and bomb 3's. Eventually the only way to stop you would be to devise a defensive scheme that would compromise any semblance of stopping other players. Even if your Athleticism wasn't good, you'd be on some team's bench. for moments where they need a shot made.
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I think I'd only be able to get the ball off if someone forgot to cover me. If I had to take a step, that'd be an instant turnover lol.
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Metapod posted:Lu Dort is the first player in NBA history to have a +/- of +40 in less than 20 minutes. Dort owns he really dialed in his terrible decision making on offense in the offseason
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yeah what if there was a guy who was 5'10" and literally couldn't dribble but could hit a shot from anywhere
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Tae posted:You would defensively die probably in the nba nah. you could just stand around without lifting your arms like old man lebron does
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basically could the basketball robot make the NBA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_SwHY8phQ0
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i bet a lot of people could play defense like lebron does here: https://videos.nba.com/nba/pbp/media/2024/01/09/0022300516/43/b33b049d-9c8a-8c41-6460-45c5e17494c1_1280x720.mp4 just do that and have your team cover for you
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Shear Modulus posted:yeah what if there was a guy who was 5'10" and literally couldn't dribble but could hit a shot from anywhere It depends by what you mean when you say can hit a shot from anywhere, because like the moment you say that. You have completely broken the geometry of Basketball. Brb casually setting up screens to create space for this player to shoot from the opposite side of the court Alternatively 
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Dexo posted:You would 100% make it to the NBA, assuming you had even average human being athleticism. And the release wasn't comically slow. If you could make every shot, why go down court? The offense would be your teammates making a semi circle around you at every inbound pass. Then you get the ball, just throw it straight up, and let the magic handle the rest.
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maybe we're asking the wrong question. if there was a normal-sized lead-footed guy who hit 100% of his shots if he was within X feet of the hoop and had Y feet of open space, what would X and Y need to be for him to be an NBA starter
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they already made a movie about this scenario but for soccer. it would go down as the basketball version of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cHvpuXpEHE
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Dame is a .01% super athlete that's still tall by most standards. Like i can't uplay enough that most people will literally be hospilatlized from the playtime alone, let alone 60+ games
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Tae posted:Dame is a .01% super athlete that's still tall by most standards. the point is you wouldnt need to work hard like a normal nba player. you could just stand on one end of the court and do the bare minimum to jack up full court threes, play no defense at all, and win every single game
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In that situation I don't need the offensive player to literally do anything but stand around on defense. I'll play five on four. All that dude has to do is shoot. If the rule is simply you get the shot off and you make it and it doesn't matter the circumstances the shot is shot under, there is jack poo poo that can be done about that dude. If the rule is just get the shot off. They are scoring three points every possession. Maybe two points if the opponent completely sells out and then they can just pass it to a teammate for a dunk. I don't think you guys are properly understanding the amount of gravity that a player who literally cannot miss a shot would bring to a court.
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Dexo posted:In that situation I don't need the offensive player to literally do anything but stand around on defense. yah, even with 5v4 defense you'd be outscoring the other team by 2.5 to 3x on average
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I mean in that scenario the only thing your team needs to do to win is get one more stop than the opponent.
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a team with a player like that would likely be scoring 75+ points per quarter with that guy on the floor. you wouldnt even need to play a full quarter probably. they'd throw you in the game for 10 minutes and build up a huge blowout lead and then you'd have 38 minutes of garbage time with you resting on the bench
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https://twitter.com/keegansburner/status/1745303234170819020?s=46&t=5gxKQFzDrDvx-7j58Ypw3g This is what growing up in Iowa does to a man
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At that point I feel like every other team would collectively realize someone had to take you out and lifetime bench players just do a spinning backfist to your jaw every game.
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pentyne posted:At that point I feel like every other team would collectively realize someone had to take you out and lifetime bench players just do a spinning backfist to your jaw every game. Yeah I think you’d probably get lynched as a witch before even making it to the NBA. You’d have to be very disciplined with the shots you took so they weren’t COMPLETELY bullshit. I like to think I’m tall enough and can be fit enough but in reality my joints would probably only last 1 year.
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one year of standing for 10 minutes once every few days? how out of shape are you
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pentyne posted:At that point I feel like every other team would collectively realize someone had to take you out and lifetime bench players just do a spinning backfist to your jaw every game. I would enjoy this new hockey goon era of the NBA
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what if you had a player who would block every shot that gets put up, but it's for both teams. Would you kiss him
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fart simpson posted:one year of standing for 10 minutes once every few days? how out of shape are you I’m a goon? Seriously though I play once a week with the boys, but when we happen to play more than once a week I start to have issues with knees, lower back etc.
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Has there ever been an nba player who was atrocious on defence and then turned it round and become an actual great defender?
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toggle posted:Has there ever been an nba player who was atrocious on defence and then turned it round and become an actual great defender? Brook Lopez was so famously bad at defense a bunch of nerds at a nerd conference had a whole panel making fun of him. He is now pretty darn good.
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Tae posted:You would defensively die probably in the nba Nah, I could hang
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Someone post that slo-mo gif of LeBron murdering that little redhead guy - I think he played for the Warriors for one season. And now he’s dead. That’s you in the NBA. edit: this one https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-5BPb3wyG1Q Red Rox fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Jan 12, 2024 |
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Red Rox posted:Someone post that slo-no gif of LeBron murdering that little redhead guy - I think he played for the Warriors for one season. And now he’s dead. lebron hit him in the face because the dude made a 3 on the previous play lol
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fart simpson posted:lebron hit him in the face because the dude made a 3 over lebron on the previous play lol lol exactly! Players would loving hate you for some of the bullshit shots you would make over them.
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