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What if the magic worked so that the ball flew around erratically after you shot it, and everybody had jet packs, and the opposing point guard was trying to catch the ball before it went in the hoop, and if he did then the quarter was over, and the other beefier players were fighting each other over a bigger heavier ball trying to get that ball in the hoop while also trying to prevent the point guard from catching the magic ball. And if the big ball went in the hoop it was 2 or 3 points but if the magic ball went in it was 100 points.
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Quizzlefish posted:NBA athletes are absolutely not the best. They are just the tallest. In a contest of raw athletics like running (any distance) or jumping, they would not beat top athletes from sports with a bigger talent pool (i.e. more widely played globally, with no height restrictions). They're the best and it's not particularly close. What you're referring to is sport specific training. There's a reason why Usain Bolt doesn't run marathons. He hasn't conditioned himself to use his oxidative system, like most sprinters. Same applies to high jumpers, long jumpers, hurdles, etc. The people who can jump out of the gym at the Olympics specifically train to do so. It's a different physical motion than playing basketball even though the outcome is the same. You're also comparing apples to oranges. Sprinters are typically shorter which makes tall guys like Bolt remarkable in the sport. They may be built better to increase the amount of times their feet touch the track, but they can't transition into basketball. It's again why sprinters typically flame out when they're drafted by NFL teams. Completely different monster. They're usually not even the fastest on field guys because WRs require agility and the ability to cut, two things which aren't needed in a 100m. The body control and athleticism required to be a NBA athlete is absurd. You're talking about guys who have to repeatedly run and jump for 42 minutes a game. I imagine that raw power could translate pretty well into running at any distance, or jumping, if they specifically trained for it. There is no way Giannis/Wemby/Any tall guy isn't the best athlete in the world. The requirement to put those body types in the air or have the agility to cover on defense is unrivaled in sports.
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Quizzlefish posted:NBA athletes are absolutely not the best. They are just the tallest. In a contest of raw athletics like running (any distance) or jumping, they would not beat top athletes from sports with a bigger talent pool (i.e. more widely played globally, with no height restrictions). There are plenty of very tall people who never get close to professional basketball, nevertheless the NBA.
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Jan 12, 2024 19:45
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The Maestro posted:What if the magic worked so that the ball flew around erratically after you shot it, and everybody had jet packs, and the opposing point guard was trying to catch the ball before it went in the hoop, and if he did then the quarter was over, and the other beefier players were fighting each other over a bigger heavier ball trying to get that ball in the hoop while also trying to prevent the point guard from catching the magic ball. And if the big ball went in the hoop it was 2 or 3 points but if the magic ball went in it was 100 points. The discourse around the WNBA would somehow be even worse than it already is.
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Jan 12, 2024 19:49
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I think there are like probably football players, and soccer players who could go toe for toe with NBA players level of athleticism. Like there are a number of NFL Corners who I think are that athletic, or like Defensive ends/edges. But on the whole, yes. NBA players are obscenely athletic and long, more so than most other athletes.
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Jan 12, 2024 19:51
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Players in other sports hardly ever dunk in-game, so gently caress em.
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which sport has the most cognitively athletic people? posting??
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leftist heap posted:which sport has the most cognitively athletic people? posting?? Probably Football or Soccer? Corner is just a completely ridiculous position that people are asked to play. Ditto with QB
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Jan 12, 2024 20:05
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Some professional wrestlers are almost certainly as or more athletic, but the waters are muddied by how many aren't athletic at all, but booked to kick the superhuman's rear end. "Real" wrestlers (like olympic ones) have to be up there, too. There's basically no comparison for how much of a full body workout it is trying to keep someone pinned that's not following a script and doesn't want to be. I've been in a couple of fights where I had to keep another guy pinned or risk permanent bodily harm, and for like a week after it felt like I had bench-pressed a car. Nothing, and I mean nothing I have lived through has made my whole body ache that way. I would fully believe that whoever is the olympic gold medalist mat wrestler is the most athletic person on the planet. Because they managed to beat the second best guy at that.
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Jan 12, 2024 20:08
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Dexo posted:Probably Football or Soccer? And Oline. I watched football with a former D1 O-lineman and the poo poo he was able to call out was ridiculous. "They're going to run a screen in the next couple plays", "This will be a slant pass", "They're waiting for the chance to take advantage of that safety deep", and it was all spot on. At sports IQ I wouldn't count out basketball, but yeah I think some of the skill positions in football or maybe soccer are the highest. Baseball is probably lowest. Fight me.
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Jan 12, 2024 20:13
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Waterpolo is wrestling, but in a pool, and it's also basketball. You know who else was probably a pretty good waterpolo player, that's right, the Most Valuable Player in the National Basketball Association!
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Jan 12, 2024 20:13
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Isn't the story Tim Duncan never even touched a basketball until his late teens but had been training as a competitive swimmer up to that point?
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OzFactor posted:Waterpolo is wrestling, but in a pool, and it's also basketball. You know who else was probably a pretty good waterpolo player, that's right, the Most Valuable Player in the National Basketball Association! This is.... A series of excellent points.
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Jan 12, 2024 20:16
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https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/1/12/24035672/los-angeles-clippers-james-harden-kawhi-leonardquote:“Obviously, it didn’t start off well,” Harden said last week. “It gave people so much to talk about in a negative way. And now those people that was talking, they’re nowhere to be found. Like, literally nowhere to be found. lebron looking across the city wishing this could be him and ty lue
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The Maestro posted:What if the magic worked so that the ball flew around erratically after you shot it, and everybody had jet packs, and the opposing point guard was trying to catch the ball before it went in the hoop, and if he did then the quarter was over, and the other beefier players were fighting each other over a bigger heavier ball trying to get that ball in the hoop while also trying to prevent the point guard from catching the magic ball. And if the big ball went in the hoop it was 2 or 3 points but if the magic ball went in it was 100 points. Did you just make a fuckin quidditch joke
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Jan 12, 2024 20:45
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kingcobweb posted:Did you just make a fuckin quidditch joke The whole convo really fees like “I could be in the NBA IF I was 6’6 or had the ability to magically hit every shot. It’s not THAT hard”.
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Jan 12, 2024 20:53
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I don't know, I think you guys are thinking everyone is a freak like LeBron, whereas a lot of players are walking around looking like LaMelo. You cannot convince me he works out. In person he looks like a walking stick. I could shove him over. My tiny hobbit hands can fully wrap themselves around his waist.
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Jan 12, 2024 20:57
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Dexo posted:I think there are like probably football players, and soccer players who could go toe for toe with NBA players level of athleticism. If anything there should be an inverse relationship between physical attribute freakyness to natural athletic freakyness in any sport. If the position demands one in a million height it can't demand one in a million athleticism. The active participants are selected from the chance of attribute times the pool/opportunity out of people to participate.
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Jan 12, 2024 20:57
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Mean Baby posted:The whole convo really fees like Naw, even with that, I would pull a Royce White. Not the "Turn into a CHUD" part, the "Wash out due to psychiatric illness" part.
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Jan 12, 2024 21:09
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nikosoft posted:I don't know, I think you guys are thinking everyone is a freak like LeBron, whereas a lot of players are walking around looking like LaMelo. You cannot convince me he works out. In person he looks like a walking stick. I could shove him over. My tiny hobbit hands can fully wrap themselves around his waist. While the NBA is a physical sport, for offensive players appearing too physical is often a detriment. Arenas has talked about how agility and being able to draw fouls is far more important for perimeter offensive players. Scoot deals with this a bit. He gets called for a lot of fouls due to him being able to bully people physically. In other words, the NBA is soft.
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Jan 12, 2024 21:11
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what if bugbears were real and were allowed to declare for the NBA draft
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Fast Luck posted:If youre 5’10 and not that quick and we take shots from the backcourt off the table I think NBA defenses might be able to shut you down in terms of preventing you from getting the ball, or from having enough room to take the shot I guess this is the situation where you say what does "Any shot" mean? If I can hit any shot it includes really dumb stuff like sidearm throws and desperation bullshit that flies up to the rafters. Considering that D2-3 players I do pickup with can leave me with only YMCA shots as an option, and I'm a goon, the extra attention from NBA defenders either gives you a good amount of FTs or at least the ability to hit dumb poo poo like "throwing the ball over my head while my back is to the basket". The thought experiment needs more parameters before I'll even let the accountants not destroy the NBA Stagger_Lee posted:what if bugbears were real and were allowed to declare for the NBA draft Given their extended reach ability they are able to make floaters and TIm Duncan backboard bank shots at unprecedented levels. Basically a Jokic revolution
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Veryslightlymad posted:Some professional wrestlers are almost certainly as or more athletic, but the waters are muddied by how many aren't athletic at all, but booked to kick the superhuman's rear end. I wrestled for a couple years in high school and can confirm. Nothing else takes you from full excited energy to completely tapped, barely able to move in 10 seconds like it. The guy getting pinned is expending even more energy to get out. Source: I got pinned a lot.
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nikosoft posted:I don't know, I think you guys are thinking everyone is a freak like LeBron, whereas a lot of players are walking around looking like LaMelo. You cannot convince me he works out. In person he looks like a walking stick. I could shove him over. My tiny hobbit hands can fully wrap themselves around his waist. The only muscle LaMelo works out is his right foot so he can hit the gas pedal faster
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https://x.com/statmuse/status/1745893844426571833?s=20
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We Are So loving BACK™
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Coby White was probably not even a rotation-level guy just like 2 years ago, this turn around has been absolutely nuts.
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If I had the ability to make every shot I'd make sure to miss a few to keep my overall percentage less than 100% - maybe something reasonable like a few % higher than the best shooters ever. If JJ Barea could play meaningful minutes than so could I.
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I'd shoot all my shots granny style and insist any other player could hit 100% too if they weren't scared of looking wussy
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Jan 12, 2024 22:04
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the @twolvesbrazil guy deleted his account after some twitter drama involving him talking to a girl, his wife divorcing him, and the other woman or whatever maybe being a virulent racist? Very milkshake duck.
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Lockback posted:the @twolvesbrazil guy deleted his account after some twitter drama involving him talking to a girl, his wife divorcing him, and the other woman or whatever maybe being a virulent racist? Very milkshake duck. Rip to a real one I guess
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If Minnesota sports Fandom has taught me anything, it's that the Wolves second round playoff hopes died alongside that account. I don't know *how*, but I've never needed to understand the past catastrophes either.
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Paracaidas posted:If Minnesota sports Fandom has taught me anything, it's that the Wolves second round playoff hopes died alongside that account. I'm hoping this was early enough to save us. If this happened in May then yeah, we'd be toast.
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one of you must ascend the throne of unhinged sports fandom if u wanna win
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Fine, gunna leave this here then https://twitter.com/katszn_/status/1745556742761525497
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Shear Modulus posted:I'd shoot all my shots granny style and insist any other player could hit 100% too if they weren't scared of looking wussy lol nice I think however you slice it, this magic power would ruin the NBA.
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Lockback posted:the @twolvesbrazil guy deleted his account after some twitter drama involving him talking to a girl, his wife divorcing him, and the other woman or whatever maybe being a virulent racist? Very milkshake duck. where am i going to get vaguely offputting gifs now
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Lockback posted:Fine, gunna leave this here then Do these accounts not know about partisan nationals
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I don’t know how to define best athlete, but I always thought that NBA players were the most freakish athletes in that their body shapes are the most outrageous - tall, skinny, huge wingspans. Compared to a lot of sports, they’re lighter at their heights, so they can jump higher and quicker, they’re more agile. I also think they have to be smarter than most sports because the game is continuous and continually dynamic (although there’s definitely roles where you don’t have to know everything that’s going on in the court). I knew some oline in (low) D1 college and they were definitely not intelligent. The ballers were all smart though.
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Lockback posted:the @twolvesbrazil guy deleted his account after some twitter drama involving him talking to a girl, his wife divorcing him, and the other woman or whatever maybe being a virulent racist? Very milkshake duck. lmao
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