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SE Watering posted:This thread needs dissenting voices. else it is just a echo chamber of jermiah crobblyn fans. I see other views every day of my life by turning on the TV or radio you silly fucker
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Jan 13, 2024 01:34
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so you've got a telly then?
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Jan 13, 2024 01:35
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if we're being dissenting, then ELECTION YEAR, YOOOOOOO! who is going to vote? Ballot hyyyyype! Crazy excited for those exit polls!
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Jan 13, 2024 02:04
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NotJustANumber99 posted:so you've got a telly then? Yes, I am watching wrestling on it now.
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Jan 13, 2024 02:06
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If I wanted the dissenting views of wet normie libs I'd simply go on Facebook.
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Jan 13, 2024 02:22
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Azza Bamboo posted:if we're being dissenting, 
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Jan 13, 2024 04:38
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Azza Bamboo posted:if we're being dissenting, then Fun Nerd election night coverage question - why is Jeremy Vine ordered not to polish his shoes before he does his Answer Prancer Virtual Studio Seat Swingometer routine for the BBC?
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Jan 13, 2024 08:48
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Mr Teatime posted:I’ll drop the boat chat after this if it’s winding people up or not thread appropriate, but it really isn’t as clear cut as simply being Israeli owned/operated or whatever. The ships I’m on are on, like the Hangzhou are being targeted because our run across the world used to include a single port call in Haifa. That’s it. We don’t go there anymore but it doesn’t matter, the ships are now considered targets. There’s been ships attacked that never called in Israel but because they carried cargo that later ended up in Israel, they are now targets. The links in a lot of cases are pretty tenuous at best. Do more boat chat
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Jan 13, 2024 09:09
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SE Watering posted:This thread needs dissenting voices. else it is just a echo chamber of jermiah crobblyn fans. If I don't read dissenting voices then how do I spend so much time making fun of them?
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Jan 13, 2024 10:03
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SE Watering posted:This thread needs dissenting voices. else it is just a echo chamber of jermiah crobblyn fans. Cool, and when we point out that those voices are wrong and provide evidence of it? Because every single "dissenting voice" seems to just end up being a time wasting loving moron who wants to play at it being the early 2000's.
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Jan 13, 2024 10:06
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Feels like we're all just talking across each other here. The 'dissenting voice' is the poster whose literal irl friends and colleagues are on boats being attacked by the Houthis, and even then they're hardly screaming for vengeance. Maybe goons itt could just have the tiniest shred of empathy and cool their angry online jets for once.
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Jan 13, 2024 10:17
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The Perfect Element posted:Feels like we're all just talking across each other here. The 'dissenting voice' is the poster whose literal irl friends and colleagues are on boats being attacked by the Houthis, and even then they're hardly screaming for vengeance. Maybe goons itt could just have the tiniest shred of empathy and cool their angry online jets for once. Ahhh sorry, I just get very tired of being told "go out of your echo chamber" and then you do so and you try and learn more and it seems as if you were right in the first place.
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Jan 13, 2024 10:24
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I suppose there is one upside which is that even if they were specifically targeting UK military assets you could still say they weren't legitimate targets because apparently they're staffed by child soldiers now.
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Jan 13, 2024 10:30
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The Perfect Element posted:Feels like we're all just talking across each other here. The 'dissenting voice' is the poster whose literal irl friends and colleagues are on boats being attacked by the Houthis, and even then they're hardly screaming for vengeance. Maybe goons itt could just have the tiniest shred of empathy and cool their angry online jets for once. It's his fault for having a job
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Jan 13, 2024 10:59
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Yvonmukluk posted:Clearly the private sector can't handle it and it needs to be renationalised for the common good. I find the privatisation of the post office to be one of the more bizarre efforts to make everything into a capitalist hellscape. In the age of emails, the ability to send physical letters is practically the definition of a public service that cannot be profit making, along with basic utilities and healthca-oh poo poo, there I go again, I’m a communist now
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Jan 13, 2024 11:20
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Jan 13, 2024 11:36
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Lol and now we are at the point of just making up what people have said.
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Jan 13, 2024 11:44
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Mega Comrade posted:Lol and now we are at the point of just making up what people have said. Who is doing that?
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Jan 13, 2024 11:47
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Mega Comrade posted:Lol and now we are at the point of just making up what people have said. I mean that is literally the US's argument, it was in their press release and everything.
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Jan 13, 2024 11:52
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Gonzo McFee posted:I mean that is literally the US's argument, it was in their press release and everything. Yeah, there're US and British naval assets in the region that could be enforcing a no-fly zone over Gaza but what are they actually being used for? Tells you everything, really.
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Jan 13, 2024 11:57
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I think even in this thread, there are a lot of people who struggle with the reality of just how monstrously cynical and unjust our actions in the Middle East are. They're, like, really monstrous, to the extent that it's understandable enough to look at it with dismay and say: "Ok, things can't really be as bad as they seem, can they?" But they are.
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Jan 13, 2024 12:02
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Jan 13, 2024 12:05
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My view is that it sucks that you're going to get taken hostage by Yemen but also they are trying to interfere with a genocide that's being aided and abeted by your employers and the entire West so idk phone in sick.
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Jan 13, 2024 12:08
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Its not a good look to headscratch about israel bombing arabs and come up with the solution of directly linking the houthis' actions to the conflict and then bombing some more arabs.
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Jan 13, 2024 12:10
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99 with the 4chan avatar lol, who is the 4chan type person among us
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Jan 13, 2024 12:12
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Its not a good look to headscratch about israel bombing arabs and come up with the solution of directly linking the houthis' actions to the conflict and then bombing some more arabs. We could not bomb Yemen. There's no reason to bomb Yemen beyond not being happy that we're being humiliated by a country we starved and bombed for seven years and still lost to.
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Jan 13, 2024 12:16
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The Perfect Element posted:Feels like we're all just talking across each other here. The 'dissenting voice' is the poster whose literal irl friends and colleagues are on boats being attacked by the Houthis, and even then they're hardly screaming for vengeance. Maybe goons itt could just have the tiniest shred of empathy and cool their angry online jets for once. a correct post imo
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Jan 13, 2024 12:21
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Pistol_Pete posted:Counterpoint: Yes you do do we really got to hand it to a group that literally has 'a curse upon the Jews' in their slogan seems less than ideal
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Jan 13, 2024 13:24
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lol at Reeves actively promising to make poo poo worse if elected: https://x.com/tkispeter/status/1746139063587869023?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q
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Jan 13, 2024 13:25
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Yvonmukluk posted:Clearly the private sector can't handle it and it needs to be renationalised for the common good. Unlike Royal Mail, which is publically traded, the Post Office is a private company wholly owned by the British state with 99% of the outlets independently run.
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Jan 13, 2024 13:32
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I'll only plant these seeds if the harvest comes in.
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Jan 13, 2024 13:37
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Skarsnik posted:do we really got to hand it to a group that literally has 'a curse upon the Jews' in their slogan Nothing is black and white or binary, and there are no good players in any of this madness. The Houthis have probably committed less actually genocidal acts than any of the others. The Houthis are the only people* who are putting direct pressure on Israel & co to stop an ongoing genocide against an innocent civilian population trapped inside the world's largest concentration camp. In this aspect, yes we really have to hand it to them, because this genocide has to stop. Having this stance doesn't mean that I support their stance on Jewish people or anything else to do with them. HTH [* Just for clarity, I'm talking about people who are within the same region. South Africa is doing sterling work in the international courts] fuctifino fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Jan 13, 2024 |
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Jan 13, 2024 13:53
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Skarsnik posted:do we really got to hand it to a group that literally has 'a curse upon the Jews' in their slogan I don't think anyone would deny that the Houthi, to use the liberal parlance of the day, are very problematic. But to borrow another phrase popular with liberals, don't let perfect be the enemy of good. It's not like by acknowledging that at least the Houthi are doing something to put pressure on Israel to stop their genocidal war or at least try force Israel's allies to maybe supply maybe even 5% less military aid for the duration of the campaign to force Gazans off their land means someone endorses the entire Houthi platform. I take the bold stance that genocide is never excusable. But let's worry about stopping the guys actually doing it before worrying about the guys fantasising about it but without actually having the means to perform it. Neither are good but one is ever so slightly pressing than the other. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Jan 13, 2024 |
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Jan 13, 2024 13:54
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We'll let them off with a bit of jew cursing then, as a treat
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Jan 13, 2024 14:10
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Skarsnik posted:We'll let them off with a bit of jew cursing then, as a treat So what are you asking here? Are you asking that people condemn those who talk of genocide for putting pressure on people actually committing a genocide?
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Jan 13, 2024 14:14
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I reckon you should maybe just not go to bat for a group who's main aim is genocide, just cos they happen to be against another one?
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Jan 13, 2024 14:16
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One again the concept of critical support completely lost on a thread of leftists
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Jan 13, 2024 14:18
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Skarsnik posted:I reckon you should maybe just not go to bat for a group who's main aim is genocide, just cos they happen to be against another one? Life must be very fluffy in that binary-thinking brain of yours. I'm actually envious. 
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Jan 13, 2024 14:19
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Skarsnik posted:I reckon you should maybe just not go to bat for a group who's main aim is genocide, just cos they happen to be against another one? I think the assertion is that the attacks on shipping with the aim of putting pressure on other countries to stop supporting the israeli genocide of palestinians, is a justifiable action, and that doesn't necessitate supporting any other part of their political platform.
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Jan 13, 2024 14:23
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Failed Imagineer posted:One again the concept of critical support completely lost on a thread of leftists leftists when it suits them it seems fuctifino posted:Life must be very fluffy in that binary-thinking brain of yours. I'm actually envious. Yeah I'm good thanks 
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