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Figured someone would have posted it in here by now but I'll crosspost the Pats piece https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/39290103/it-was-patriot-way    quote:He wanted to force Kraft to decide. "He's going to have to move first," Belichick said. quote:In one staff meeting, O'Brien got angry with Belichick during a discussion about running plays. He stormed out. The rest of the coaches were quiet, unsure of what to do. Belichick just let it go, knowing it all would be over soon. quote:Then, during offseason planning meetings, Belichick later told people in the building, he raised the idea to the Krafts of trading quarterback Mac Jones. The Krafts had embraced Jones after he was drafted in the first round in 2021, hoping to build something close to a Brady-like relationship with him. "I'm going to do what I need to get my quarterback the right people," Kraft told a confidant.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:lmao was he really friends with Robinson? Yeah, he worked with Licht in New England and Tampa.
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At this point I don't really give a gently caress who we pick. It's not going to work out anyway.
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Alaois posted:Dave Tepper should announce himself head coach Give me the job. I at least won't force the offensive line into a zone blocking scheme and will sell the farm for a decent wide receiver. Also if Tepper gets in my face I'll just [redcated] and flee to mexico and you'll all be free.
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Think Steve Wilks would still want the job? Get him.
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The bar Reich and rhule set is so loving low you could trip over it. Wilks would be fine paired with a decent OC bur if you're doing that. Just promote evero
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mcmagic posted:He must be thinking that a few more jobs could open up after this weekend. The loser of Phlly and Tampa.... maybe dallas if they lose. He also has the luxury of waiting this whole cycle out if there aren't any openings that appeal to him. It's not like he wouldn't be one of the most sought-after names next year, too.
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Siranni isn’t going to be fired even if they lose. Philly fans have had it a bit too good with 3 of their last 4 coaches getting to the Super Bowl. Plus your not going to fire a guy one year after losing in the SB.
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Harbaugh speaking with the Chargers. Maxx Crosby threatening to request a trade if Antonio Pierce isn’t retained? drat. https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1746162914443092430?s=46&t=DcBXErlGIUJUj8quAgYfkQ
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wandler20 posted:I don't think they're gonna hire the guy who got Licht's buddy fired from Tennessee.
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why not? he lost the Super Bowl. in short sirianni did not 
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Diva Cupcake posted:Think Steve Wilks would still want the job? Get him. If it was an option I’d be on board. Wilks strikes me as the kind of guy who harbors a grudge and good for him. He’s been hosed over twice by nfl owners.
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syzpid posted:Siranni isn’t going to be fired even if they lose. Philly fans have had it a bit too good with 3 of their last 4 coaches getting to the Super Bowl. Plus your not going to fire a guy one year after losing in the SB. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised either way. It absolutely sounds insane to get rid of a coach that has been to the playoffs every year and just lost the Super Bowl last year. No question. But it's hard to overstate how thoroughly the house of cards keeping this team afloat has collapsed. People mystified by the discourse around firing Sirianni act as though the Eagles suddenly turned around and started playing sub-par ball. They've been playing sub-par ball all year. Their defense was getting dunked on by Mac Jones in week one and hasn't gotten better. Their offense has had moments of brilliance — thanks entirely to an incredible roster — but mostly been mired in dead-simple schemes that get sniffed out and demolished with halftime adjustments. They rode phenomenal luck to get to 10-1 when they should have been near .500, and then the luck ran out and the wheels fell off. And what's damning for Sirianni is he's had no answers whatsoever. When they were winning, it was by the skin of their teeth and anybody watching the games knew something was up. When they stopped winning, they didn't change anything and rolled over for everybody. Actually, they changed one thing: They swapped out their awful hand-picked DC for Matt Patricia, who proceeded to make things even worse, because he's Matt loving Patricia. And now you're at the point where the team seems to have given up on their coaches entirely. What do you even do with that? Do you give everybody the offseason to cool down and bring Sirianni back next year on a short leash? Or do you look at some of the coaches on the market — including one of the winningest coaches of all time whose defensive chops this season were still really, really loving good despite having absolutely nobody of note on that side of the ball — and wonder if maybe this roster's window can stay open a while longer? I cannot stress enough how bizarre it has been to follow this team all season. If the talk you're hearing around the Eagles makes no sense at all, it's because the Eagles themselves make no sense at all.
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Toaster Beef posted:At this point, I wouldn't be surprised either way. It absolutely sounds insane to get rid of a coach that has been to the playoffs every year and just lost the Super Bowl last year. No question. But it's hard to overstate how thoroughly the house of cards keeping this team afloat has collapsed. People mystified by the discourse around firing Sirianni act as though the Eagles suddenly turned around and started playing sub-par ball. They've been playing sub-par ball all year. Their defense was getting dunked on by Mac Jones in week one and hasn't gotten better. Their offense has had moments of brilliance — thanks entirely to an incredible roster — but mostly been mired in dead-simple schemes that get sniffed out and demolished with halftime adjustments. They rode phenomenal luck to get to 10-1 when they should have been near .500, and then the luck ran out and the wheels fell off. Don't the Eagles have a lot of missed games in their secondary too? I remember seeing them losing corners for the season EARLY.
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Chris James 2 posted:Figured someone would have posted it in here by now but I'll crosspost the Pats piece Meetings to prepare for meetings are the biggest sign of a completely dysfunctional organization.
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Toaster Beef posted:Or do you look at some of the coaches on the market — including one of the winningest coaches of all time whose defensive chops this season were still really, really loving good despite having absolutely nobody of note on that side of the ball — and wonder if maybe this roster's window can stay open a while longer? I'm just gonna say you really do not want Kirk Ferentz.
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Forrest on Fire posted:Don't the Eagles have a lot of missed games in their secondary too? I remember seeing them losing corners for the season EARLY. That's definitely an issue, yeah, and it's not like coaching is the only thing holding this defense back. They need personnel.
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Normally ownership shouldn't really bow down to player demands regarding coaches but in this case you probably should because that defense is absolutely nothing with Crosby's insane work ethic, on field production and leadership. If Davis fucks things up and Maxx ends up leaving, that'll be 2 All-Pro edge rushers that the team has run off in like 6 years... I'd honestly be looking for a new team at that point until Mark sells the team or dies. Black Sunshine fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jan 13, 2024 |
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Timby posted:Meetings to prepare for meetings are the biggest sign of a completely dysfunctional organization. Is almost assuredly something pretty standard like the coaches have a meeting at 9 to prepare for their meetings with the players at 10
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Black Sunshine posted:Normally ownership shouldn't really bow down to player demands regarding coaches but in this case you probably should because that defense is absolutely nothing with Crosby's insane work ethic, on field production and leadership. I feel like players picking their own coach doesn't really work out.
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Diva Cupcake posted:To be fair Mark Davis picking his own coach doesn’t really work out either. Harbaugh or Vrabel. It's NFL ownership on easy mode.
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mcmagic posted:Harbaugh or Vrabel. It's NFL ownership on easy mode. Dropping Pierce for Vrabel sounds pretty loving stupid
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The337th posted:Dropping Pierce for Vrabel sounds pretty loving stupid Based on a few meaningless games at the end of a bad season? You have no idea if Pierce is a good coach or not.
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Nervous posted:Bill to the Bucs who says yes not me!
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Nervous posted:Bill to the Bucs who says yes Todd Monken or bust.
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mcmagic posted:Based on a few meaningless games at the end of a bad season? You have no idea if Pierce is a good coach or not. Vrabel is not a Harbaugh tier coaching prospect, and not even close to it He's like mildly more intriguing than the average potential also-ran hire But yeah, the Raiders should probably disrupt any team chemistry and potentially shove off another star player for a questionable splash hiring at coach, how did that one work out the last two times again? Harbaugh at least has a resume justifying that mentality
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wandler20 posted:Todd Monken or bust. gently caress you we just got him 
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wandler20 posted:Todd Monken or bust. the Jets should've hired Monken on like 3 different occasions.
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mcmagic posted:Based on a few meaningless games at the end of a bad season? You have no idea if Pierce is a good coach or not. If you ignore that he: Took over a dysfunctional team and instantly changed the culture Went 5-4 as interim finishing the season going 3-1 with all of those wins against division rivals Played a role in the Raiders having a top 10 defense for the first time in 22 years Had the team playing the most disciplined Raiders football that I've ever seen in 30+ years of watching games and ended up the least penalized team in the entire league for the first time ever (noting that they are always among the most penalized teams) Has intense support amongst his players to stay on as head coach Curb stomped the Chargers, dropping 63 points on them and literally getting their coach fired the next day Beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead on Christmas day while they were still fighting for the #1 seed and ended that dream for them even with our QB not completing a single pass beyond the first quarter, etc, etc Yeah sure, if you turn a blind eye to that stuff then I guess we have no idea if AP is a good coach or not. Then again, ignoring those real things that actually happened is really loving stupid. He might not end up a great coach but I'm happy with what he's shown me so far. When a dude makes your team do a 180 in so many different ways, he just might be on to something.
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mcmagic posted:Based on a few meaningless games at the end of a bad season? You have no idea if Pierce is a good coach or not. There are some teams who could probably benefit from just giving “good vibes” a go for a bit instead of whatever their interpretation of being a “good coach” looks like.
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A big flaming stink posted:gently caress you we just got him we had him first!!
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https://twitter.com/dmrussini/status/1746180819113185302?s=46 So latest is: Chargers: Harbaugh Raiders: Pierce Falcons: Belichick Commanders: Johnson Seahawks: Quinn Panthers: ???/Johnson Titans: ??? Where does Vrabel go? Can’t see him in Carolina. Maybe if another job opens up.
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I feel like there were reports of teams with “safe” coaches reevaluating those decisions in light of Vrabel’s firing. So maybe there will be some surprise firings.
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C-Euro posted:Raiders should hire Vrabel just so Crosby can leave the team in a huff and come to Detroit.
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