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karthun
Nov 16, 2006

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

BabyFur Denny posted:

Maybe don't live in places that go down to -40, that seems like a very unwise decision to me

I see that the cold still keeps the bad people away.

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Elias_Maluco posted:

Amazon Is Selling Products With AI-Generated Names Like "I Cannot Fulfill This Request It Goes Against OpenAI Use Policy"



https://futurism.com/amazon-products-ai-generated

Does the "I Cannot Fulfill This Request It Goes Against OpenAI Use Policy. My Purpose Is To Provide Helpful And Respectful Information To Users" come in other colours? Brown doesn't go with my Scandinavian decor.

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




SerthVarnee posted:

Maybe don't bury anything that you hope to retrieve in -40 Celsius with no guarantee of having access to tools.

If you're too stupid to not bury the key 3 ft deep like it's pirate treasure then the -40 weather will probably sort you out sooner or later.

Like just put it in a potted plant by the front door or under a rock. And since I guess I have to clarify, I mean a small rock that you can lift without a prybar. And don't glue the key to the rock, or put the rock on a bear trap, or put the rock on the roof.

Zonko_T.M.
Jul 1, 2007

I'm not here to fuck spiders!

I put the key under a rock in my house so that it's secure.

Nervous
Jan 25, 2005

Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.
Mine's in a little lockbox attached to the house. I keep the key for that lockbox inside :dumb:

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005
I just never leave the house.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
I don't even have a house.

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk

Zachack posted:

If you're too stupid to not bury the key 3 ft deep like it's pirate treasure then the -40 weather will probably sort you out sooner or later.

Like just put it in a potted plant by the front door or under a rock. And since I guess I have to clarify, I mean a small rock that you can lift without a prybar. And don't glue the key to the rock, or put the rock on a bear trap, or put the rock on the roof.

It's here somewhere, I know it is.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
I don't know much about living in cold weather, but wouldn't it be likely to be buried in snow no matter how deep it is?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Elias_Maluco posted:

fopeas brand amazon thing.

I love my fopeas brand thing whose only search engine results are amazon (oh and now news articles about its AI gen product name)

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

SerthVarnee posted:

How far did Texas go down that one time?
Because if Texas gets to count as being too cold to live in, I'm not sure where you want people to go. Florida maybe?

High single digits Fahrenheit, low teens negative Celsius

A long way from negative forty.

Texas broke because everything there is built for barely any freezing, not because it was all that cold on a national/international scale.

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk
Speaking of Internet of Things.

I know this is an old one by now, but I still go back to it on occasion just to marvel at the poo poo on that list.
Especially the part with "Almost the entire city of downtown Copenhagen, Denmark"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtu7vV_HmY&t=66s

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

Clarste posted:

I don't know much about living in cold weather, but wouldn't it be likely to be buried in snow no matter how deep it is?
You put the flowerpot or whatever on a covered area (front porch, back porch, windowsill), not out in a yard.

It's just a new cause for the classic "Lost your keys"/"Accidentally locked yourself out" problem that's existed for generations.
The solutions for it are the same as they've always been:
- Give a key to a neighbor to hold
- Hide one somewhere accessible
- Routinely leave a back door/window unlocked so you can get in

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Clarste posted:

I don't know much about living in cold weather, but wouldn't it be likely to be buried in snow no matter how deep it is?

The point is that it's located somewhere that you can find it relatively easily if you know where to look, not in the middle of the yard. Like, at the eastern corner of the garage exterior next to some other stones in your tasteful "ah gently caress it, whatever" overgrown, unweeded garden. It doesn't matter if you can't see the stone directly as long as you can see the garage and extrapolate the rough position, along with being willing to use your hands to dig a little hole in the snow.

If you can't see the garage then the key is at that point likely the least of your worries.

Also, perhaps the person with the IOT house could have windows with physical locks that could have been opened by hand by the person inside?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Foxfire_ posted:

It's just a new cause for the classic "Lost your keys"/"Accidentally locked yourself out" problem that's existed for generations.
The solutions for it are the same as they've always been:
- Give a key to a neighbor to hold
- Hide one somewhere accessible
- Routinely leave a back door/window unlocked so you can get in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUK1fvIgjI

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Foxfire_ posted:

You put the flowerpot or whatever on a covered area (front porch, back porch, windowsill), not out in a yard.

It's just a new cause for the classic "Lost your keys"/"Accidentally locked yourself out" problem that's existed for generations.
The solutions for it are the same as they've always been:
- Give a key to a neighbor to hold
- Hide one somewhere accessible
- Routinely leave a back door/window unlocked so you can get in

When I was a teen once we had some family come over and sauna was warmed up and afterwards all of us were outside chilling, it was summer but still cooler than room temperature. Some of us were clothed and some still just with towels wrapped around us. Then we realized that we had locked ourselves out and no one had a key. We also didn't at that time keep a spare key outside.

Luckily a tiny bathroom window had been left open to let the heat and moisture from the sauna vent out. As a kid I was small enough to fit through, so I was pushed through head first and held from ankles till I reached the floor with my hands so I could be released and then go open the door.

So there's another option for you!

Nervous
Jan 25, 2005

Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

Nenonen posted:

When I was a teen once we had some family come over and sauna was warmed up and afterwards all of us were outside chilling, it was summer but still cooler than room temperature. Some of us were clothed and some still just with towels wrapped around us. Then we realized that we had locked ourselves out and no one had a key. We also didn't at that time keep a spare key outside.

Luckily a tiny bathroom window had been left open to let the heat and moisture from the sauna vent out. As a kid I was small enough to fit through, so I was pushed through head first and held from ankles till I reached the floor with my hands so I could be released and then go open the door.

So there's another option for you!

Not at all the same thing but you're story reminded me of the time my mom and dad put me in a lifejacket, tied a rope to it, and tossed me off the boat to go save my dad's hat that had blown off. I was successful :)

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Nervous posted:

Not at all the same thing but you're story reminded me of the time my mom and dad put me in a lifejacket, tied a rope to it, and tossed me off the boat to go save my dad's hat that had blown off. I was successful :)

With that kind of childhood, it's no wonder you're still... Nervous.

(I sensibly chuckled)

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

Nervous posted:

Not at all the same thing but you're story reminded me of the time my mom and dad put me in a lifejacket, tied a rope to it, and tossed me off the boat to go save my dad's hat that had blown off. I was successful :)

Kids, they are just so gat dang handy sometimes.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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SerthVarnee posted:

How far did Texas go down that one time?
Because if Texas gets to count as being too cold to live in, I'm not sure where you want people to go. Florida maybe?

Austin got down to about 10 degrees and more than 200 people died, across Texas.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Nervous posted:

Not at all the same thing but you're story reminded me of the time my mom and dad put me in a lifejacket, tied a rope to it, and tossed me off the boat to go save my dad's hat that had blown off. I was successful :)

this is hilarious.

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Yeah can I get a uhhhhhhhhhhhhh I Cannot Fulfill This Request It Goes Against OpenAI Use Policy. My Purpose Is To Provide Helpful And Respectful Information To Users

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

If you get it the request is filled and an automated system flags the service worker for failing to comply

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1746936503664820585

https://pluralistic.net/2024/01/15/passive-income-brainworms/#four-hour-work-week (the article is just the unrolled twitter thread)

Cory Doctorow just posted a great thread /article on how the only people actually making money from AI spam and similar are the ones selling people Get Rich With AI courses and not the spammers themselves. People make money from selling other people on the technology, not from using it.

Edit: Also, this:

https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1746938393857278311

SimonChris fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Jan 17, 2024

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

SimonChris posted:

Cory Doctorow just posted a great thread /article on how the only people actually making money from AI spam and similar are the ones selling people Get Rich With AI courses and not the spammers themselves. People make money from selling other people on the technology, not from using it.

I'm not so sure about this. It looks to me like he's just extrapolating everything from what he learned about the spam market twenty years ago, and doesn't consider the idea that the spam industry may have changed somewhat since then.

Moreover, he's made some fundamental mistakes in how he sees the spam market: the people he was angrily calling up weren't spammers themselves, they were people who were all paying a spammer to spam for them. For them, it wasn't "passive income" - they were running actual businesses that made actual money providing actual services, and were just being fooled into paying for "advertising" that was actually just a spam service. And that spammer was certainly making a tidy profit out of the arrangement.

withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

Resist the siren call of rhinocerosness

College Slice
The point was that the people making the money were the ones selling the courses and tooling to set up a business, just like the people selling these AI tools, just like the crypto shills.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Staluigi posted:

Yeah can I get a uhhhhhhhhhhhhh I Cannot Fulfill This Request It Goes Against OpenAI Use Policy. My Purpose Is To Provide Helpful And Respectful Information To Users

What size

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Small medium large kitchen bathroom children's birthday party bachelorette stag halloween, please.

DeeplyConcerned
Apr 29, 2008

I can fit 3 whole bud light cans now, ask me how!
Gentlemen, I'd like you to welcome our newest employee, I Cannot Fulfill This Request It Goes Against OpenAI Use Policy. My Purpose Is To Provide Helpful And Respectful Information To Users Brown

99pct of germs
Apr 13, 2013

Elias_Maluco posted:

Amazon Is Selling Products With AI-Generated Names Like "I Cannot Fulfill This Request It Goes Against OpenAI Use Policy"



https://futurism.com/amazon-products-ai-generated

I'm not sure if this worse and about the same as all the pop up companies like UCHZA and BCBVUYZ selling the identical thing from Alibaba.

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?
This is really cool.


I'm fascinated by generative AI and despise that it's largely been bootstrapped on the uncompensated work of pretty much everyone. Hopefully tools like this will force everyone towards legitimately licensed data sets.

e: switched to image

LASER BEAM DREAM fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Jan 20, 2024

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

It won't.

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?
No, but the first major lawsuit victory might. Or it will at least scare off big companies.

VV e: done VV

LASER BEAM DREAM fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Jan 20, 2024

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
Love how we're still posting direct xitter links in the tech nightmares thread, at least screenshot it to avoid giving the hellsite clicks.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Depends whose victory it is. It's not a given that AI training is infringing, at least in the US.

A loss for the companies won't "scare" them off, they'll just shift to using their own IP and set up licensing schemes to pay artists to make their jobs obsolete. It'll kneecap the AI models not attached to an existing conglomerate, but that just means that the larger IP holders will have an effective monopoly on generative AI.

SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jan 20, 2024

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?
I won't drag this out for long because I know people are tired of AI talk.

At what point does this become about how capitalism will utilize any advancement in productivity to cut jobs and increase profit?

Once we’re clear of legal ownership concerns (I know IP sucks under the current system) you could make the same argument for almost any technology that could replace someone’s job.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

LASER BEAM DREAM posted:

At what point does this become about how capitalism will utilize any advancement in productivity to cut jobs and increase profit?

When was it ever not about this?

A legal outcome that requires datasets be licensed does little to change anything other than reduce the pool of companies with the resources to train AI models to a handful.

The solutions to this have to be legislative. Expanding copyright's scope only serves to strengthen the position of the companies that are ready and willing to replace their workforce.

SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Jan 20, 2024

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?
Is there a suggested alternative? Openly, honestly asking. If there is a policy suggestion on limiting AI I’m interested.

My point is that the internet backlash against AI isn’t matched by any other technical advances. No one in the online discourse is angry about the Bager-288 because better digging tools do not affect their jobs.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

LASER BEAM DREAM posted:

No, but the first major lawsuit victory might.

VV e: done VV

NYT may have done nothing to debunk reasons to invade Iraq, and will always be complicit in my eyes, but I'm fully behind them suing openAI, and i hope they win

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SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

AI mostly exposes the rot already at the heart of the system. The goal shouldn't be to limit AI (at least within the scope of art/asset creation) but the companies using it to replace workers. Union agreements, taxes on use of generative AI models by big corps, that sort of thing.

I see going down the copyright path as playing right into hands of big capitalism. The material benefit to artists if they win is marginal in the short term, with long term prospects arguably worse.

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