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Piell posted:Big chain restaurants are near universally going to be cleaner than mom and pop restaurants and you're far likelier to get sick from the latter Yeah, I've never gotten food poisoning from a McDonald's or a Popeyes.
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Platystemon posted:They’re not doing, like, uranium enrichment in veggieburger factories. They’re mixing together a bunch of commodity ingredients. It doesn’t really matter that there are a lot of them. and let's not forget thanks to our old friend tropicana levels it's going to be massively more efficient to eat any veggie burger, no matter the frankensoy used to create it, than it would be to eat beef. The vast majority of the calories that goes into the cow goes to keeping the cow alive, rather than to making more beef. If we lose 90% of the energy to raise cows, we could either grow only 10% of the grain and use it for veggie burgs, or make 90% more burgs with the same amount of resources. In short, if you like any other blood-curdled american only care about maximizing  then veganism is the only choice.
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My Spirit Otter posted:my objection is the amount of energy, time, logistics, and dedicated machinery required to process all of those things into something usable, and the waste generated by the various processes. between the meat-free options, the black bean burger requires far less ingredients and has far less of an impact on the planet. corporate commercial kitchens are disgustingly large. they have gigantic foot prints, stupid amounts of electronics, stainless steel everything, tons of vehicular traffic. not to mention the wanton use of cleaning chemicals. i am not saying a hygienic kitchen is a bad thing, but mom and pop shops are doing the same thing with way less chemical cleaners and have way less space to clean. you also don't have to worry about mom and pop shops skimping on facility maintenance to keep costs down leading to a nice e. coli or legionnaire's disease outbreak. literally anything is better than meat, and as others have pointed out, you need all the same poo poo for meat, so switching to the most complex veggieburg ever conceived made of every plant ever discovered would still be a massive gain. And hey, if you happen to like black bean burgs, that's even better. Also you're underestimating how much it takes to make a decent black bean burg: 2 (14-ounce) cans black beans, drained, rinsed, and patted dry 1 Tablespoon extra virgin olive oil 3/4 cup (100g) finely chopped bell pepper (1/2 of a pepper) 1 cup (130g) finely chopped yellow onion (1/2 of a large onion) 3 garlic cloves, minced (about 1 Tablespoon) 1 and 1/2 teaspoons ground cumin 1 teaspoon chili powder 1/2 teaspoon garlic powder 1/4 teaspoon smoked paprika 1/2 cup (60g) bread crumbs or oat flour 1/2 cup (70g) feta cheese (skip if vegan) 2 large eggs (see note for vegan substitution) 1 Tablespoon Worcestershire sauce (see note for vegan & vegetarian version) 2 Tablespoons ketchup, mayo, or BBQ sauce pinch salt + pepper
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I'll just stick to eating bugs thank you very much
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You missed the vegan egg substitution (it's cum)
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I like the Beyond chicken nuggets, but they're so expensive
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PhazonLink posted:not to give the tiniest grain of salt, but I do think there's some weirdness / too much time and energy being put into making facsimiles of animal meat that are plant based products that are factory products that require refrigeration. Imagine facsimile chowder.
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Heath posted:Beyond Burgers are kind of weird though They taste different than beef but they're close enough that i wouldn't be bothered if they became the standard
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I have an analogy that will make everyone unhappy: Beyond Meat is the electric car of burgers.
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Yes, they are noticeably worse cold.
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Improbable Lobster posted:They taste different than beef but they're close enough that i wouldn't be bothered if they became the standard They make my insides a little…ineffective at absorbing water from my food, but maybe that would go away if I ate more of them?
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:Bro that's PUSiSiY Don't make fun of my speech impediment! god dammit I meant sulphur. 
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grittyreboot posted:I like the Beyond chicken nuggets, but they're so expensive yeah I would absolutely prefer all these foods if they weren't so loving expensive, they're 3-4 times the cost of comparable amounts of beef or chicken or pork
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i mean it's a matter of economics of sale, and the massive stupid subsidies we give to the meat industry at all levels. so all we need is an honest politician looking out for the interests of society as a whole even if it causes conflict with a powerful, entrenched, and moneyed lobbying industry that's become a norm to maintain. In short, we need donald trump 2024 to save the planet in the hopes that he'll do it by accident. can we make meat gay and soy?
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Improbable Lobster posted:They taste different than beef but they're close enough that i wouldn't be bothered if they became the standard Eh, there's just something in the Beyond formula that I just don't like the taste of. The Impossible fake meat products are pretty good, though. Still noticeably not meat, but close enough.
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human pet guy what the gently caress     https://twitter.com/I_Am_CyberSmith/status/1746348157963845880
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There's a brand I bought often in the UK: Quorn. It's basically meat substitute made from mycoprotein and tastes great. Not too expensive either. Scale that up so it's cheaper and I'll eat it whenever no problem. Shrooms are where it's at
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Viscous Soda posted:Eh, there's just something in the Beyond formula that I just don't like the taste of. The Impossible fake meat products are pretty good, though. Still noticeably not meat, but close enough. The impossible nuggets are basically the same as McDonald's nuggets.
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I ate some impossible nuggets earlier today. I’m an unrepentant meat eater but I’d be fine if these completely replaced chicken nuggets forever. They’re perfect in the air fryer.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Diarrhea Forever went hard at last year’s FYA Fest. Greatest shitcore band for my money. This is Cruelty Squad dialogue
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TinTower posted:human pet guy what the gently caress for anyone else who doesn't know what's going on, ozempic is apparently a new diabetes medication that folks have been using for weight loss and i guess it can give you major tummy troubles
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TinTower posted:human pet guy what the gently caress this guy has someone chained up in his basement. call the fbi
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TinTower posted:human pet guy what the gently caress I feel a sense of despair and dread
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:Bro that's PUSiSiY this mf said PUSiSiY
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Lazy_Liberal posted:for anyone else who doesn't know what's going on, ozempic is apparently a new diabetes medication that folks have been using for weight loss and i guess it can give you major tummy troubles Oh-oh-oh, oh-zempic
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kirbysuperstar posted:hope it happens to musk He already has constant verbal diarrhea!
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Ziv Zulander posted:Oh-oh-oh, oh-zempic Auto parts?
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Panfilo posted:Guy makes a genuine apology, and chuds aren't having it. Who is Ed Greenwood and what did he do?
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Samovar posted:Who is Ed Greenwood and what did he do? It looks like he's in trouble for allying himself with Sauron.
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Samovar posted:Who is Ed Greenwood and what did he do? he invented the most popular D&D world, i.e. the BG3 one
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Fister Roboto posted:It looks like he's in trouble for allying himself with Sauron. I mean yeah, Elminster was his OC. He looks like a wizard for a reason. Apparently he retweeted something about some RPG kickstarter and didn't read it very well and it's chuddy.
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Samovar posted:Who is Ed Greenwood and what did he do? Guy who more or less invented the Forgotten Realms D&D setting, then sold it off with a contractual agreement that his superpowerful OC in the setting(the one that's canonically immortal, loving several goddesses, protected by twenty gods, has his own space station, and travels to Earth to drink beer with Ed Greenwood and talk about baseball, etc. you know the drill) wasn't ever allowed to have a bad day and had to be cool forever. His writings tend to be greasy "horny old sci-fi/fantasy writer"-stuff. Not fundamentally offensive just... not good. What he did this time was praising some of the most obvious "WE NEED TO BRING BACK THE GLORY DAYS BEFORE PEOPLE WERE RESPECTFUL TO EACH OTHER AND HAD FEELINGS"-trash I've seen in a while:  For example, the person he praises here posts stuff like: https://twitter.com/ryantylerpalmer/status/1746462148417437856 quote:SJWs have had me on their whisper list for years. They want us gone. Tried to cancel my editor for a retweet of my statement against corporate shoehorn gimmick and uninspired pander marketing. So personally I kind of don't buy that Greenwood had no idea what he was supporting, considering how open this guy is about what he is, I think the apology's just damage control. But I'll admit to being cynical, not psychic enough to look into his heart of hearts.
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Ed Greenwood is old enough and doesn't have enough general influence that I don't really care that much if he has terrible opinions. And Elminster was a woman for a while so I think in a general sense he's probably okay with the concept LGBTQ+ people. I sorta buy the whole "sorry, I didn't read the tweet I retweeted" apology Also just lol about being upset about "bisexuality X-Men." It just tells me you haven't read, or have hated, the X-Men since the 70s.
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Viscous Soda posted:Eh, there's just something in the Beyond formula that I just don't like the taste of. The Impossible fake meat products are pretty good, though. Still noticeably not meat, but close enough. One thing I've noticed from trying several meat alternatives on the market is that it varies a lot from person to person which version tastes good and which doesn't. There's one brand that tastes completely fine, but the smell before cooking makes me retch. Usually it's the texture I have issues with, a lot of them feel rubbery. We've found a few that work well, especially in chili were the difference in taste is really negligible.
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