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Fajita Queen posted:I liked Sunshine a lot for the levels being open and explorable like the ones in 64. The 3d mario games that came after that switched to more linear levels instead which is fine but has never been my cup of tea for 3d platformers. Yeah I think this is why I liked it a lot on replay and why odyssey owns too. I like galaxy and it's obviously more polished but I'm less of a fan of the structure.
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Is Petey Piranha the only time you can get shines out of order?
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American McGay posted:Name a worse Mario game. I quit playing Mario games for a decade because of Galaxy.
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Zurtilik posted:I quit playing Mario games for a decade because of Galaxy. because it was so good "nothing will top this" 
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Quantum of Phallus posted:because it was so good I won't say it's bad. Its well made and lots of people like it. But I bounced off of it hard.
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I'm a chuckster! *hurls you out of the thread*
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Zurtilik posted:I quit playing Mario games for a decade because of Galaxy. 
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I bought it on release i rented it on release and disliked it bought it a couple years later for like 20 bucks, disliked it even more gave it one last chance when i got 3d allstars and finally resigned myself to the fact that it was just a garbage game Andorra posted:Mario Sunshine has its issues and all, but some of you guys are acting like it's on the level of Metroid: Other M or Super Paper Mario, and it's weird. super paper mario is several orders of magnitude better than sunshine, are you sure you didn't mean to use sticker star in this comparison or something DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jan 14, 2024 |
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Sunshine is very good. I enjoyed it more than Galaxy, and I feel a deep pity for those of you unable to appreciate it.
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Snake Maze posted:I enjoyed it more than Galaxy 
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Galaxy is like an amusement park ride. Everything is so polished and frictionless that nothing makes an impression, you just do the obvious next step and it all blends together. Sunshine has far more room for player mastery (with more advanced movement techniques and more situations where you can put them to use) and the open level structure lets you explore and find things or just take a different route instead of following the rails. I also like blue coins for adding a reward for poking around and finding out of the spots and just generally exploring the environment, although as a first draft they are missing the second half of the equation that made them work better when the concept was revisited in BotW and Odyssey as Koroks and Moons (fill the world with tons of small collectibles to reward exploration, and include way more than you need to get all the real rewards)
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Galaxy 1 is better than sunshine but not by much. Galaxy 2 is the best 3D mario though
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Snake Maze posted:Truth Puts it very well. Going through 3D all stars I just found galaxy too easy to be as engaging, despite the polish and the charm. I never played galaxy 2 unfortunately and wish they'd rerelease that.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Puts it very well. Going through 3D all stars I just found galaxy too easy to be as engaging, despite the polish and the charm. It will be a launch title on the Switch 2 when Nintendo realizes they have no more Wii U games to rerelease so start doing the Wii ones, instead.
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Larryb posted:Rocket Knight collection announced: I keep forgetting the SNES-port was so different that it counted as its own game. But neat, I never played the second game, and only bits and pieces of the SNES/Mega Drive games.
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Sunshine is mostly pretty great when you stick to just beating the game, which us mostly really good. All the extra shines never give you a reward and are mostly really bad. It's still a must play game if you like platformers, even if it's a weaker Mario game on the whole. Its definitely not a weird mess like Star Fox Adventures or something where something obviously went wrong. I was pretty dissapointed back in the day, but I gotta admit I couldn't put the game down until the terrible final level. I feel like it gets judged pretty harshly not just because it's a follow up to 64, but it also had to be THE platformer for the GameCube and 2002 was just an amazing year for platformers overall. You had Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper and Jak and Daxter come out around the same time for PS2. Rareware was sold to microsoft, so Mario Sunshine seemed to be the only exclusive platformer you would get for the GameCube. Which meant it was competing with 64 and also 3 new Sony IP's that felt really fresh, focused and polished in comparison. All these games are flawed and are smart enough to make a lot of stuff optional. But Sunshine is the only one from that era where people can reference the flaws as a cultural touchstone, which is kind of another reason to play it honestly.
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Has anyone tried out Coromon? Saw it's on sale and Cassette Beasts gave me an itch to try out good Pokéclones and I heard it was one of them.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:super paper mario is several orders of magnitude better than sunshine, are you sure you didn't mean to use sticker star in this comparison or something God no. SPM was terrible when I bought it when it first came out, and it was terrible when I replayed it recently. Easily one of the most tedious games I've played. Atrocious ugly art design, and a story I couldn't possibly be interested in.
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:mario sunshine may not be as good as mario 64 but its a feature complete game that is fun to play nothing about it feels unfinished The music is also excellent
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Andorra posted:God no. SPM was terrible when I bought it when it first came out, and it was terrible when I replayed it recently. Easily one of the most tedious games I've played. Atrocious ugly art design, and a story I couldn't possibly be interested in. super paper mario KICKS rear end bitch
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I finished the SMRPG remake the other day and like... while I appreciate how loving weird some of the characters and settings are, and while I see how it created the formula for the other Mario RPGs, that's kind of the problem, I played those other Mario RPGs first, so because I don't have the nostalgia for it, I'm thinking it's like... alright. You know?
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:Is Petey Piranha the only time you can get shines out of order? One of the only intentional times, but you can get more out of order. For example in the beach level you can clip through some geometry to get the last shine. Which allows you to select the shadow Mario Chase shrine immediately and skip the other shines in the level.
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Bifner McDoogle posted:Sunshine is mostly pretty great when you stick to just beating the game, which us mostly really good. All the extra shines never give you a reward and are mostly really bad. It's still a must play game if you like platformers, even if it's a weaker Mario game on the whole. Its definitely not a weird mess like Star Fox Adventures or something where something obviously went wrong. I was pretty dissapointed back in the day, but I gotta admit I couldn't put the game down until the terrible final level. Speaking of Star Fox Adventures, I remember my first time seeing the animation when Fox gets an item and thinking they really went ham on the character detail. By the third time I saw the exact same animation I was bored. By the 5th time I just wanted a skip button every time the animation played 
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How are you guys playing Sunshine on Switch? I guess Mario 64 is part of the N64 backwards compatibility, but I searched for Sunshine on the eShop and didn't see a thing.
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Twerk from Home posted:How are you guys playing Sunshine on Switch? I guess Mario 64 is part of the N64 backwards compatibility, but I searched for Sunshine on the eShop and didn't see a thing. 3d mario all stars
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Twerk from Home posted:How are you guys playing Sunshine on Switch? I guess Mario 64 is part of the N64 backwards compatibility, but I searched for Sunshine on the eShop and didn't see a thing. super mario 3D all stars
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Bofast posted:Speaking of Star Fox Adventures, I remember my first time seeing the animation when Fox gets an item and thinking they really went ham on the character detail. By the third time I saw the exact same animation I was bored. By the 5th time I just wanted a skip button every time the animation played starfox adventures gets unfairly ridiculed for being a bad starfox game when its actual problem is that it's a bad zelda game
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:starfox adventures gets unfairly ridiculed for being a bad starfox game when its actual problem is that it's a bad zelda game its both
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they did some stupid promotion where 3d all stars was only available on the eshop for a short period of time. the bits ran out, nothing can be done
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RealityWarCriminal posted:they did some stupid promotion where 3d all stars was only available on the eshop for a short period of time. the bits ran out, nothing can be done Don’t worry all the games featured on it are actually bad now according to 90% of this thread’s posters so nothing of value has been lost
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hey guys how's it goi-maybeadracula posted:So you're saying there's tons of extremely specific Pianta porn out there? bro what
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Waffle! posted:Nostalgia's working backwards for some of y'all. You only remember the bad parts and not the good. this is a common goon disease
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Looper posted:hey guys how's it goi- he's dead now
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:I finished the SMRPG remake the other day and like... while I appreciate how loving weird some of the characters and settings are, and while I see how it created the formula for the other Mario RPGs, that's kind of the problem, I played those other Mario RPGs first, so because I don't have the nostalgia for it, I'm thinking it's like... alright. You know? It's a game for 5 year olds.
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:Super Mario RpG…like... alright. You know? I can relate to this as well as I can to having menstrual cramps. Which is hard considering I’m a dude.
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its a nintendo remake so its the same game with the same things so its good as hell but if you played the original game a million times like me then you've already played it
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smrpg remake whips
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Looper posted:smrpg remake whips Doe's it whip the llama's rear end?
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Waltzing Along posted:It's a game for 5 year olds. beyond your abilities?
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Stux posted:beyond your abilities? (chuckles)
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